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[frankenstein2]

Your level of paranoia is inspiring.

You have no idea brother, lol!!! I take all back roads to my spot. If there is a car I can see in my mirror when I'm about to make a turn, I go straight then turn around and go back. When I'm on the road that my spot is on if I even see one car, I drive the 5 miles long the road is while I'm punching it and turn and take another road that circles back around. It's like 10+ miles of extra driving.
I once huddled down in the brushing for 30-45 mins because I swore I could see someone out in a field watching me.......turns out it was a fence post, lol.

 

[Featherfoot]

yes^^^^ that. wear your civies then change into camo.

Yeah, camo in urban areas makes you stand out, you will get noticed.
And to people in the know, ie potential rippers, it's oh, there goes a guerrila grower to tend his plants.
Or it's, look, I think that's a terrorist, better call the cops.

Personally, depending on how urban the area is I am infiltrating from, I will often wear camo pants and hiking boots, but have a bright coloured jacket, so it looks like I'm not trying to hide. And then take the jacket off when I get into the forest.

Your backpack is also important, don't get a camo backpack if you are infiltrating on foot from an urban area, try to get one in drab neutral colours.
But if you are driving into the forest in a car then it doesn't matter as it will be out of sight.
Alternatively you can make a cover for your backpack out of camo fabric, or you may be able to buy them, and slip it over your backpack once you have infiltrated into the woods.

Travelling with seedlings or harvested product be especially careful to wear nothing that will make you stand out.
You have to look like the person who would be the last person to have anything to do with weed, as this is your highest risk time.

If you really don't want to be seen then make a Ghillie suit, but just be aware if some hunter does see you he might mistake you for samsquach and shoot you.

 

[frankenstein2]

You can also use coolers to transport plants to the OD. Helps with the stink![/QUOTE]

That's what I do. Fill coolers with clones in those little black nursery cups. I take bigger plants out that way too. The really big coolers can hold a few plants in gallon grow post. I just lay them down alternating top and bottom so I can fit the max the cooler will hold. Sometimes I even stack them.
I can't use them to harvest though. I went through 50, 42 gallon black garbage bags stuffed to the limit last year. They don't make coolers big enough for it not to take a million trips. Harvest is the riskiest part of guerilla warfare.

 

[5th]

Or it's, look, I think that's a terrorist, better call the cops.

LMFAO....I can't say I've ever experienced that...

 

[Featherfoot]

Having a big backpack is good, you can carry seedlings to your spot in it.
Get a plastic flower pot big enough to hold three beer cups, and put them in it, it stops them from tipping over in your backpack and getting squashed.
You can carry 6 seedling in beercups this way, and no-body can see them.

Easier for carrying a small amount of seedlings and you have your hands free for hiking.
Also good for infiltrating from an urban area on foot, where you don't want to be seen carrying a box or cooler into the woods.

The advantages of a box or cooler is that you can carry more seedlings at once and so cut down on the number of trips and less exposure to the chances of getting stopped by nosy rangers or leo.
Rangers can be suspious that you are smuggling wildlife, reptiles expecially, and may stop you and ask what's in the box. Happened to me once, but it was at the end of the grow and I was bringing some empty beercups and fertilizer back out of the woods.
Told them I was a responsible hiker and was just carrying rubbish that I came across out of the forest.

Another advantage of carrying your seedlings in a box is that if you realize leo has followed you in you can quickly stash the box under a bush and then head off in another direction to decoy them away from it.

Although you can reduce the chances of this by once you get in the woods a bit head off the trail into the bush just about 10 yards or so, but so you can still observe the trail, and sit there quietly watching the trail, and see if anyone comes past.

Approaching your grow: When you get close to your grow stop and listen, take everything in, and then if all quiet proceed slowly and quietly, stopping to listen every now and then.
Leo does occasionally stake out grows, happened to me once, but I got away.
They obviously had a motion sensor set up at the grow and were sitting off out of sight in the bush.
And when I set it off they came charging through the bush to my grow but I got away.

 

[Featherfoot]

A tip about rippers.
Rippers sometimes leave a stick or branch or even a rock on the trail, they do this to get an idea of when you visit your grow, or how often.
They bank on you knocking it out of the way accidentally, or on purpose, as you walk along.
They don't do this on main trails, usually just the trail that forms sometimes the last 5 yards or so to your grow.
That's if there is a trail there, sometimes you don't leave any sort of trail because of the terrain underfoot, or you are able to approach your grow from different sides.
But often the last bit to your grow you might have to approach it from the same spot because it might not be accessible from other angles, or the terrain, such as grass or reeds or some types of underbrush, leaves a trail easily.

So if you see say a stick put across the entrance to your grow, well it wasn't there before and sticks can't fly, so someone put it there to check when you visit your grow.

Then you have to put in counter measures to find out what you can about them, ie how often are they are visiting your grow.

Other peoples grows: You will always come across other grows when you are out there.
Best to leave them alone, for a start it's unethical.
Secondly some growers do stake out their own grows nearing harvest time, and if you start harvesting their plants, well you will get beat up for sure, and quite possibly killed.
I always take the view that if they are occupied looking after their own grow then they wont have time to go looking for my grow, so I leave them alone.

 

[Buddah Watcha]

You can also use coolers to transport plants to the OD. Helps with the stink!

That's what I do. Fill coolers with clones in those little black nursery cups. I take bigger plants out that way too. The really big coolers can hold a few plants in gallon grow post. I just lay them down alternating top and bottom so I can fit the max the cooler will hold. Sometimes I even stack them.
I can't use them to harvest though. I went through 50, 42 gallon black garbage bags stuffed to the limit last year. They don't make coolers big enough for it not to take a million trips. Harvest is the riskiest part of guerilla warfare.[/quote]

That was after trimmed and dried for 2 days I'm sure if you don't trim at the spot it's not possible. lol

 

[MJBadger]

Rippers sometimes leave a stick or branch or even a rock on the trail, they do this to get an idea of when you visit your grow, or how often.
They bank on you knocking it out of the way accidentally, or on purpose, as you walk along.

I mentioned cotton in a previous post but several times have used Brambles (do you get blackberries in usa ?) if they are growing usually you can tease one out & lay it a certain way like it`s just grown there .

 

[hamstring]

**I'll edit this with some pics of my kit in a month or so incase something doesn't make sense.**

But for the time being...your shovel. This is by far the most useful tool in your outdoor arsenal. And this is how I go about using mine...

1) Buy one. With a spade shaped end on it. And not some plastic piece of shit from Wally World either, spend the money on a real wood handle. I'm going to suggest a farm supply store. (reason to follow)

2) When you get it home, drill out the rivet that connects the spade head to the handle. Replace with a 7/32 nut and bolt and a few washers. (or whatever drill bits you have around that size)

3) Didn't pick up a few 7/32 nuts n' bolts earlier? Good. Head back to the farm supply store. You may (or maybe not) noticed in the same aisle you found the shovel in, that there are replacement ends. Grab a sod cutter end (shaped like a half moon n' sharp as fuck) and an end with tines on it. (pitch fork)

4) Grabbed a few extra nuts n' bolts right? Head back to the ranch. You'll now notice you can carry 3 tools easily in your kit (that you can leave out there)...and a BONUS...the handle makes a kick ass walking stick/staff.

Now this should cover most digging terrain....but where not done yet...

Smoke a fatty, get creative. For example I made a hand saw attachment that goes on the end of mine. I've never used it to delimb a tree...but I have it if I need it. (works fine without the shovel handle btw)
I'm pretty high right now actually...thinking about a scythe attachment to cut down tall grass n' shit...

Great points

I do the same thing and the shovel head fits in the pack great. I like the longer handles too not the D handle shovels for the exact reason you said "Walking stick" but also because the leverage is so much better on the long handle.

Even if your only digging 10 holes that long handle makes a difference on your body. Try digging 10 good size holes with a D handle. Dude you're breaking sod many times. Tall grasses and native veg. That shit can be tough to dig through.
With the longer handle shovel you can jump up on top of the shovel balancing yourself as as you break through the fibrous root systems. Not to mention its a crow bar because you will need leverage advantage of a longer handle many times while busting up native earth.

I understand why the sod cutter might be a good accessory but does it really save any time vs cutting the sod with the shovel?

 

[5th]

I roll up my sod to expose the soil underneath.

Excavate, the trench, add amendments, backfill.

Because of the shape of the spade it makes it damn near impossible to keep a straight line as the sod cutter your aware is perfectly straight.

So depending what you plan on doing with the existing sod...yes it can make things a little faster. Also fantastic for cutting those stubborn roots instead of hauling my axe into the bush.

Yeah D handles are garbage, and your exactly right about the length of the handle. Leverage makes all the difference in the world.

 

[hamstring]

I roll up my sod to expose the soil underneath.

Excavate, the trench, add amendments, backfill.

Because of the shape of the spade it makes it damn near impossible to keep a straight line as the sod cutter your aware is perfectly straight.

So depending what you plan on doing with the existing sod...yes it can make things a little faster. Also fantastic for cutting those stubborn roots instead of hauling my axe into the bush.

Yeah D handles are garbage, and your exactly right about the length of the handle. Leverage makes all the difference in the world.

5th Great post.
I've been a part of many outdoor threads and I still learn something new everytime i participate . Thanks

 

[5th]

Same here brother, always on the lookout to improve my grows. Make things easier, more efficient...and of course yield more lol.

Lookin' to make this my best OD year yet.

 

[Team Microbe]

That's what I do. Fill coolers with clones in those little black nursery cups. I take bigger plants out that way too. The really big coolers can hold a few plants in gallon grow post. I just lay them down alternating top and bottom so I can fit the max the cooler will hold. Sometimes I even stack them.
I can't use them to harvest though. I went through 50, 42 gallon black garbage bags stuffed to the limit last year. They don't make coolers big enough for it not to take a million trips. Harvest is the riskiest part of guerilla warfare.

That was after trimmed and dried for 2 days I'm sure if you don't trim at the spot it's not possible. lol[/QUOTE]

Getting a little ahead of myself here but how do you prevent mold when drying outdoors? I barely had room to bring home my crop last year and this year I'm fearing I'll have too much. I'd like to dry outside but I live at 43N and we get rain in September usually... if I could dry in the bush I'd feel MUCH safer as I'd be able to turkey bag the trimmed buds making transporting much safer/easier.... thanks for any insight bud

 

[Smoking Lamp]

One thing I thought about recently for security, is a game camera. I have family that uses one for their bear hunting.

Simple video, big SD card, motion activated and some at night too. Pretty easy to conceal, run on batteries and meant to be placed out in the woods and such, so not easy to see and weather won't destroy them.

Every year I scout new spots [who doesn't ] and I have been thinking about this for some pre-recon, just to be sure, I haven't missed somebody or something visit my spaces.

 

[ronbo51]

I do all my site prep long before any new growth starts in the Spring. I run my path straight through the blackberries being careful to pick the exit point from the trees where it will leave no trail. Once the brush starts growing all the long arching blackberry canes fill in and some strategic pruning on the undergrowth will leave a tunnel that pops out right at my spots, but cannot be seen from above, or even standing a few feet away. It is a bother to bring plants in and to water, but that doesn't happen very often and the lack of a visual path beats ease of tending. Some years I wear knee pads but if the tunnel is cleaned you can scoot/crawl along in long pants and gloves with no trouble. Another plus with planting in blackberry thickets is you can weave the long canes through your plants further disguising them. I never let my canopy get much taller than the surrounding vegetation. I keep a roll of wire and some wire cutters at the sight and tie down branches here and there that try to get too tall. With the tunnel method you can go to the site a bit more since you are not leaving a trail. The entrance to the tunnel has to be discreet though and i usually pull vegetation over it trying hard to make it look natural.

 

[frankenstein2]

Excellent advice on bringing a long handled shovel to use. The short ones do make for more back breaking work. With the whole path to the spot/tell tale signs someone has been there. I like to set booby traps with shit that's already there. It doesn't take much to rig a young sapling to block the path. Then if someone does happen to stumble across it. They either have to break the sapling to continue, or get discouraged by a little bit of work and leave. If they do decide to continue, chances are they are gonna get smashed in the face with a sapling, and that will usually send the average person running out of the woods.

Thieves are a different story. They will do whatever it takes to get your shit. So for me, avoiding having those fucks see where I'm driving to is paramount. Where I live there are lots of thieves that will follow you and then go back later and search until they find your shit. Luckily one of those fucks got killed last year.

 

[Featherfoot]

Where I live there are lots of thieves that will follow you and then go back later and search until they find your shit.

Yep, once they realise you are growing they will keep searching till they find your grow.

I grew for years in one area, several grow sites set up.
Up until someone happened to find one of my sites they just thought I used to go out in the woods and play commando's.
Once they realised I was growing around there they used to go out all the time looking for my grows, even sitting concealed by the side of the trail waiting for me to walk past so they could follow me.
Some people have too much time on their hands.

 

[Team Microbe]

Thieves are a different story. They will do whatever it takes to get your shit. So for me, avoiding having those fucks see where I'm driving to is paramount. Where I live there are lots of thieves that will follow you and then go back later and search until they find your shit. Luckily one of those fucks got killed last year.

Good to hear man, always good hearing about one less ripper to have to worry about. Was it in the field do you know? That's gotta be an epic story haha

 

[frankenstein2]

The scumbag got hit by a car. Him and his brothers have been chased out of the woods by friends of mine. They go ripping every year. Luckily though because I have so much respect from my friends and their friends, I get told if people are looking for my shit or trying to watch my patterns. A good thing though is I grow a ways away from where I live and where they live. None of them have vehicles or licsense's, and 20 miles is awfully far to ride a bike with stolen dope in a garbage bag, lol.

 

[Team Microbe]

The scumbag got hit by a car. Him and his brothers have been chased out of the woods by friends of mine. They go ripping every year. Luckily though because I have so much respect from my friends and their friends, I get told if people are looking for my shit or trying to watch my patterns. A good thing though is I grow a ways away from where I live and where they live. None of them have vehicles or licsense's, and 20 miles is awfully far to ride a bike with stolen dope in a garbage bag, lol.

He'll probably come back as a grower in the next life and learn his lesson


That's good you keep your plate clean so-to-speak... I shat where I ate one year and will never do it again. I keep finding these golden spots but theyre an hour away, I can't decide if it's worth the long drive back home at the end of the season :/