1000 Watt Sativa Tent 2014

[dstark]

I might call my son Tonny
Well I guess it does count just like these days without flowers with indicas...
Also I was asking about the 11/13 cycle, is that to mimic the light of nature where the sativas usually grow? Much difference from straight 12/12?

 

[recent guest]

I might call my son Tonny
Well I guess it does count just like these days without flowers with indicas...
Also I was asking about the 11/13 cycle, is that to mimic the light of nature where the sativas usually grow? Much difference from straight 12/12?

Im doing 11/13 because of the Haze. 12/12 is supposedly not enough to get some Haze pheno's to mature their flowers, they will just keep growing and producing new budsites. As far as the other sativas are concerned, yes I think there is a difference, but I'll show it through photos. I think flowering is slightly faster with more resin production:

Here is the Destroyer mother at 25 and 21 days of flowering last year in the same tent, with 12/12 light cycle. She was flowered on February 1st, and shows a pretty comparable, similar habit to the Destroyer x Malawi in this years tent.

Here is this year's Destroyer x Malawi at 21/23 days of flowering under 11/13. I either got a much more resinous phenotype without searching at all within the gene pool (no selection for resin, etc), or the 11/13 cycle has augmented the resin production:

Its hard to be definite and empirical with these observations, but personally I am happier with this year's plant. I don't think I will yield nearly as much as last year though, because I didn't top and train nearly as much.

 

[recent guest]

First march update!:

I love the structure on this untopped main koalabear of Destroyer x Malawi.

Panama top is just starting to be worth taking photos of, little bit of resin coming:

Destroyer x Chocolope exhibiting heavy Chocolope yields already after 28 days. If somebody is reading this caption, look at the Haze branches in the background. You can see the curled leaves. This is different than leaf 'hooking' of the tips from fertilizer burn, its more of a full leaf curl, some curled up into spirals, but it is some kind of unhappiness, and Im wondering if its an environmental or soil issue...any insight would be appreciated:

Haze flowers:

Lower DxM branch with some resin showing itself:

 

[Gelado`]

Great pics! Looks like it might be a pH issue.

 

[recent guest]

Great pics! Looks like it might be a pH issue.

Yeah, Im pretty sure that it is. I want to test my pH but every single meter I have bought is just complete chinese junk. The grow store in my area charged $50 for something that thinks coffee, milk, and my soil all have the same pH...7!

The meter before that was the same. So, I finally just went for it and spent $250 on something that is a little more professional. Anything less than that is just pissing in the wind.

I just top dressed with FFOF soil, adding about an inch to each plant. I think that will help balance the pH until my meter arrives and I can actually bring it into line correctly.

Honestly, I like having a jungle tent during the winter, but I wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy. Growing sativas like these requires topping. Last years tent with similar growth habit plants was MUCH easier to work with and no strings attached, literally, because the plants were repeatedly topped in veg.

I switched the Panama and the Destroyer x Chocolope #1, so now the Panama is in the back right corner. Doing this took most of my sunday up, its so laborious to even water without feeling like I am destroying these delicate sativas.

What did I expect, though, right?

 

[Gelado`]

I use aquarium pH tester, cheap, doesn't require calibration and very accurate! Just liquid you add to a water sample and then shake and wait for the color change.

As for sativas indoors, thanks for the tip. I've realized ALL of my sativa plants will yield more and become easier to handle when topped. I may do some pure sativas indoors in the fall; I'll be sure to top the heck out of them repeatedly to get them to bush out.

 

[tleaf jr.]

hey bear looking good I have a plant that does that same type of clawing when ever I try to give her nutes idk why?,,everything looking good in here though props

 

[dstark]

the destroyer x malawi pic is mesmerizing! These sativas are awesome great job so far.
For the curling lets wait for the pH tester

 

[mr. gt]

^^ holy shit that foxtail picture looks like some great stuff man!!

 

[killerweed31]

hy br i was completely affascinated by your run, i love 1000w.sativa tent ehh ehh
looks like high class plants bro, i usually run and smoke more indica or 50%ind.50%sat. genetic but man sure i need to run some badazz sativa plants, she look so sexy and nice..
im tuned for the rest of the show if you dont mind, keep up the high quality bro

 

[3rdEye]

As if you were reading a book, the lineup in the first picture is:

Panama, the big plant is a Diesel cut which I have another thread about, and the rest are Destroyer crosses. The VERY xmas tree plant that has no major fan leaves is a Malawi cross I think. The plans after (below) that are chocolope phenos and the one on the left (first) is a male with a great scent and great vigor that i am contemplating a breeding run with. -Bear

Edit: the grass is wheatgrass which is good in juice but it's primary function is to deter my cats who just go nuts over chewing the fan leaves. Hasnt worked so far as you can see by the Panama.

excellent plants and i am liking your selection of sativas a lot. My cats seem to go after the same plants i like the most. I'll look to see which ones they nibble on the most. Your plants all look healthy. I'm sure that OTH is going to be quite special.

 

[Ganja Maker]

I'm late to the party, but so glad i found it. Great! thread and pics.
Just like others have said, I love seeing these beautiful sativas grown.

 

[recent guest]

Thanks everybody. I really like the way the Destroyer x Malawi is looking. The Haze is disturbingly lacking resin. Maybe with patience it will show up, and its probably an issue of perspective, since the Destroyer crosses now have so much in such a short time, in comparison.

The re-shuffled tent: Destroyer x Chocolope #1 has been switched with Panama and is now front viewers right. She has definite pH or Magnesium issues. Im not sure which to treat for. Necrosis on the fan leaves. Waiting on the pH meter...

Oldtimer's Haze lower branches, looking nicer than the canopy.

Panama top next to oldtimer's haze side.

 

[recent guest]

Here is the Destroyer x Malawi outside the tent. She is 7+ feet tall if she weren't bent, but I didn't realize how big she has gotten until I stood next to her. I can't wait to let her clone get to 17 feet in the greenhouse this summer

 

[mr. gt]

this is my favorite thread to come back to! I love that plant and how the top fox tails it looks beautiful. I am a tiny bit jealous : ) I definitely want a detailed smoke report! How many more weeks you got?

 

[Greenlife1]

Bear..looking sweet!
what size pot is that Destroyer x malawi in?? 5?

Im just getting ready to put my destroyer's into flower, in 2 gallons as of now..was thinking of using a 5 since that have lots of growth to come. What do you think? my first time running them.

 

[recent guest]

Bear..looking sweet!
what size pot is that Destroyer x malawi in?? 5?

Im just getting ready to put my destroyer's into flower, in 2 gallons as of now..was thinking of using a 5 since that have lots of growth to come. What do you think? my first time running them.

Thanks greenlife, you know, the pot size I am using for that plant is probably shorting it a bit...Its not quite 5 gallons, I could repot into a 5 gallon bucket but only add a small amount more soil...so I would think that they are 3 or 4 gallon pots. Generally speaking I do a gallon for every month that the plant will spend in the pot. She is probably root bound.

The Destroyer is a nice quick sativa, even my freaky thai pheno that I grew last year. I would recommend putting her into a 5 gallon pot and letting her root out for two more weeks if thats an option, because Im not sure that she will want to root much more once flowered. That depends also on how big your current pot is. Jumping from 1 to 5 gallons right at the start of flower isn't optimum.

A couple of my observations about Destroyer:
topping her is key, a topped plant can be a high yielding bush
different phenos offer different light penetration characteristics so if you don't have good penetration I would prune/manage some of the lower bud sites, but if you do, like the DxM, then it probably wont be necessary.
She is easy to burn but pretty forgiving.
a pH of 5.8 / 6.2 was what I was measuring last year with good results.
Feeding molasses in the last two weeks of flower seemed to make my buds swell like mad.

this is my favorite thread to come back to! I love that plant and how the top fox tails it looks beautiful. I am a tiny bit jealous : ) I definitely want a detailed smoke report! How many more weeks you got?

I really appreciate that mr. gt (mr gt....georgia tech, good times, gooey tissues?)

Strangely enough, the Destroyer x Malawi is already starting to finish up. She looks like she has the flowering time about 15% faster than her mom, and the same bud structure, so she will probably continue to produce new calyxes for another four to five weeks, and then another two weeks for optimum, I think. She is starting to smell fruitier, like mangoes and carrots.

The Destroyer x Chocolope #1 is probably going to finish second. It smells like ripe melons and candy.

The Destroyer x Chocolope #2 is noticeably slower to flower. I don't like her as a living plant, she looks like she has the Chocolope influence in the leaves and the airyness of the buds from the mom, with a slower flowering time than either. If I am growing airy buds I want them to be pure sativa, if there is any indica influence then I might as well grab the dense bud trait with it, ya know? #2 also has the Destroyer woody spice smell, and again, if I am going to have traits of the Chocolope, then I want smell and taste as highest priority, thats why I bred with it.

The Panama I will leave 11-14 weeks. Its looking much better now and picking up vigor. I think she likes her new spot in the tent. The smell is really great, it shifted from an afghan-like scent to a nice incense, almost lemon-lavender smell. I was debating killing my clone of her but now I am happy I didn't.

The Haze, probably another 6-8 weeks. Crystals are starting to show up on the older calyxes, impossible to get on camera, but I think it will be good smoke.

 

[recent guest]

Also, the pH meter arrived and has been put to thorough use already.

It really works nicely after calibrating it with buffer solutions.


Well as it turns out the pH of my tap water is 7.9-8.2! WAY too high. The runoff from watering registers at ~7.5, again, WAY too high.

Anybody who has experience adjusting soil pH please chime in, because I am just trying new things.

I bought organic lemon juice and have been adding 3 teaspoons per gallon of water, which comes out to a pH of 6.2, which is where I want it. I also bought vitamin c powder and that works well when added to the water also.

 

[recent guest]

Destroyer x Malawi showing some resin

OT Haze on the left, panama top on the right

Haze Foxtails

Destroyer x Chocolope #2 top and Haze "main cola"

Whole tent

 

[byzauc]