Broad Mites??

[RetroGrow]

Yes, same as on top. That's how you can easily tell what they are.

 

[Tehan]

broad mite damage?

broad mite damage?

looking for confirmation that i have broad mite for sure. microscope pics coming soon

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

while the leaf bend is something to look at for broad mites it also looks as though you have spider mites. hard to tell in this pic but it sure looks like it from here. the speckling on the leaves looks very spider mitey. its highly probable you have spider mites as most growers do to some extent. forgive me if im telling you something you already know. good luck.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

on second look it looks like it could be that weird mottling associated with bms that some also say looks like tmv. it just really looks speckley rather than mottled but the pic is grainy when i try to blow it up. the onesided nature of the discoloration is something i see in the weird mottling not so much s.m.'s. the second pic looks more like s.m.'s.

 

[Tehan]

thanks for input.def not spider mites. i am seeing what seem to be eggs. could be trichomes. if trichomes there is a lot more on top of leaf then there is underneath. plants are in early veg.

 

[RetroGrow]

Not spider mites. Those are plainly visible. Could be BMs. Only the scope knows for sure. Start on aspirin right away until you figure it out. 325 Mg. per gallon, uncoated aspirin. Mitigates the toxins of BMs. Plants should perk up right after aspirin.

 

[Tehan]

thanks. i plan on starting aspirin next watering. waiting for powerful scope with camera to arrive. will post some pics when it does. i have the 100x but not sure if eggs or trichomes. have u guys experienced random flowers getting brown discoloration, airy and no crystal?

 

[RetroGrow]

You are in flower? That is a problem. You may be too late to save them. Basically, these have to be treated in veg. Can't use chems in flower at all. Only options are heat or OGBiowar, but may be too late for them if your pistles are already browning.

 

[Tehan]

no not in flower. I'm in super early veg. the brown flowers i am referring to are from last run. 90% of garden was great the other 10% was literally trash. not only whole plants turned bad but also random branches on plants. My preferred treatment would be heat and biowar if needed.

 

[Tehan]

some bad flowers from last run and some twisted growth this run. Broad mites? still can't say for sure if what I'm seeing in 100x scope are eggs or not. i was gonna do heat treatment regardless. would you advice against that retro until i am 100% sure?

 

[RetroGrow]

If what you are seeing are the same on the tops of leaves and bottoms, they are trichs. Eggs only on bottom. Google Broad mite & cyclamen mite eggs and there are plenty of pictures. Heat treatment can't hurt. Don't stop the aspirin.

 

[Tehan]

thanks again. will keep you posted. trying to figure out this scope cam.

 

[Bobo Bolinsky]

Update so far. with a good scope not seeing eggs or mites.
And new growth in affected plants seems improved with mostly no cupping. My lighting is no reflector hanging 600's with fans below for cooling. The most affected were not the closest to lites so I don't think that's it. Heat 80-81 on 24 Ph ok, not perfect around 6.8 (runoff) which not a prob. in past. I possibly did hit with a bit more frequent liquid micros early veg... ? Been doing the asprin every water (1/gal) and just added silica blast (Botanicaire) will do about every other water.
Again in 30+ years I have not seen this problem. The good thing is not likely broads, would like to know what to avoid again!

 

[RetroGrow]

If you're lights are on 24 hours, you should cut it back to 20 hours at most. Besides saving electric, plants need a dark period. Gives them a "rest". It gets dark in nature.