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Machine abused Nugs...

gaiusmarius

me
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all the people i know who use trimming machines, are doing it because of security concerns with trimmers over the years, if it's not one of them stealing or a couple, then they are plotting to rip you, so you try and employ as few people as possible. they will spend a day trimming with the machine with 2 or 3 peeps, when without the machine they would need a team of 10 to do the same job in 3 times the time.

but there is no doubt that machine trimmed buds are lower quality then hand trimmed. the machine trim seems to spread chlorophyll juice all over the buds which lowers the quality. of course after a decent cure you would still smoke machine trimmed, it's not like those few trich heads that are lost will make a big difference when smoking it. so yeah i can kind of understand why, even if i won't do it myself. good side of legalization will be that employees can be legally employed and you can put a camera over the trimming table and not worry about any thieving, just involves making some rules about no bags in the work place and other stuff to make it impossible to steal. pay them well and with time they will be loyal employees. but all that is impossible when the whole thing is under ground.
 

Avinash.miles

Caregiver Extraordinaire
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Denver has some of the most advanced operations ive ever seen...
Odd..

it's called balance, best and worst practices side by side....
no doubt some spots in denver are making it proper, but also it's certain that there is garbage which ESO described selling everyday.
 

2 Legal Co

Active member
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Heck it provides work and builds community.

I'm sure there are some guys that are as good as women at trimming buds.

This is sort of off the subject - stoned thinking perhaps ? - I wonder if US prisons will ever provide out-sourced bud-trimming services.

Maybe in 50 years, Cannabis America will be so corporate, and Cannabis will be so widespread, that prisoners will trim bud as well as making license plates.

It's not a terrible idea, the trim would improve the lives of most American prison inmates. :woohoo:

Stoner-thinking definitely involved lol.... I'm quite surprised that they are still making license plates.

The Corporate mentality has taken over, the prisons don't even make furniture anymore. The Fish Hatchery at Buena Vista is closed too. Not sure but I think even the Ag operations got shut down as well. I think I saw another rancher cutting hay last year on the state land.

And to think the Prison at BV used to be self supporting. Now we pay to keep people locked up there.

The state got sued over unfair competition from prison labor.
 
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Eureka Springs Organics

There are indeed some very advanced operations here.

I have seen this first hand from the people that are actually doing it. They were so "proud" of their "skills" they were happy to talk about it. Obviously I am not going to name any names.

There obviously needs to be some rules, and regulations.

I still can't figure out why bubble hash is not good enough for people. :)
 

BagAppeal

Member
I have been looking to purchase trim machines many times after two, three weeks of day and night with trimming, but with that said, so far I have chosen not to do so.I feel like the plant is releasing a lot of nasty taste into the buds( as said by gaiusmarius) when you start taking away the smaller leaves(sugar leaves) in direct contact with the bud, as they release( chlorophyll/stuff inside leaves/sap) this nasty taste into my end product. For this reason alone, I am still trimming my mind into insanity,with removing fan leaves and then sugar leaves once dry. Something I find impossible with trimmers..

All the best
BagAppeal
 
I have been looking to purchase trim machines many times after two, three weeks of day and night with trimming, but with that said, so far I have chosen not to do so.I feel like the plant is releasing a lot of nasty taste into the buds( as said by gaiusmarius) when you start taking away the smaller leaves(sugar leaves) in direct contact with the bud, as they release( chlorophyll/stuff inside leaves/sap) this nasty taste into my end product. For this reason alone, I am still trimming my mind into insanity,with removing fan leaves and then sugar leaves once dry. Something I find impossible with trimmers..

All the best
BagAppeal

Well done sir...(slow clap). If you want to be true to your user name, hand trim with care all the way! Pretty tough to shoot for premium bag appeal when you have a machine destroying and knocking off half of your trichomes! :)

I'm amazed that people that spend 4 months nurturing and maxing out a plant's potential would ruin things by getting lazy during the finals steps of harvesting. I'm also amazed that people spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars on trimmers that do nothing but decrease the final quality of the buds. Taking the easy way out is rarely the way to go, and this is no exception. Lovingly hand-trimmed weed will ALWAYS be of higher quality, and preserves as many intact trichomes as possible.
 

RoadRash

Member
I find that manicuring goes easiest if I am listening to some good sports webcast, like a surfing webcast on the Internet.

So basically my medicine tends to hang-dry between surf contests.
 
i agree would rather buy a nice hand trimmed nug over machine trimmed... it would also be nice if consumers would by it with some sugar..leaves stll attatched.... but they wont.
n i dont get some peoples tones when talkng about machine trimmed... if u dont want it, dont buy it... wth is the pont of complaining that the general public doesnt know or care how it was trimmed... this is the land of bud, coors, etc..
most people are morons.. so i wouldnt hold my breath on the general pub holding some moral standard on how commercial od crops are trimmed.
again, if u dont like it, dont buy it... right?
it seems to me here on the east coast, people will generally happily pay less for machine trimmed decently grown blue dream than they would shelling out an extra dollar for hand trimmed or any other improvement really... it is what it is..


When I bought, I never complained about sugar leaves.....not sure why people do. They weight next to nothing, and are covered in THC! Now that I grow my own, all sugar leaves that are fully coated stay on the bud, I just trim off the very tips of the sugar leaves to avoid smoking any burnt leaf tips which can be harsh.
 
If you are willing to settle for less than the best possible quality, then that's your prerogative........personally, I'm not willing to settle, only the best hand trimmed and manicured nugs for me!

:smoker:
 

kmk420kali

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I agree that machine trimming does hurt quality...but when you have 150 or 200 lbs to trim, there just is no option--
 

Tonygreen

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Do trimmers get overtime, sick pay, 401k, medical leave, and union rates? Just wondering. Would hate to see someone take a dent in those profits off 200 elbows. I feel you though thats why 9 year old kids in asia make our shoes for us. Labor costs can really add up.
 

kmk420kali

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Do trimmers get overtime, sick pay, 401k, medical leave, and union rates? Just wondering. Would hate to see someone take a dent in those profits off 200 elbows. I feel you though thats why 9 year old kids in asia make our shoes for us. Labor costs can really add up.

It is only partially because of the $$-- Logistically it is almost impossible to hand trim all that-- The location requires ppl stay there, it is too far to drive back and forth daily, and it would take more ppl than can fit in the house for sleeping--
Trying to move that many plants to trim elsewhere would beat them up more than the trimmer--
I really wish there was a way, as I also agree it hurts quality, but after all our overhead and labor just to do the grow....then with the prices gone to shit here in Cali...yeah, not many options-- :tiphat:
 

ponobegone

Member
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hand trimmed 120+ on my first year farm. biggest pain in the ass ever, bad musty hippie taste left in my mouth but I still wont ever use a machine. ever. I want my patients to have the best product I can give them.
 

stoned-trout

if it smells like fish
Veteran
not much good comes when its easy.....trimming can suck but it the way to go for primo and I only grow premo.......I have trimmed for endless periods till I had so many blisters....its the price I pay for the best end product.......but in the end the consumer has a choice just like the grower...
 

bigshrimp

Active member
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I used to trim for a living seasonally , and i can understand why people would get a machine.

I've seen some trimmers destroy nuggets just as bad as machines. And the fucking drama.

Never ending drama.

If i didn't have a good crew i trusted, i would get a machine.
 
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