WA house fucks us!

[Marquis de Sod]

write your senator. it is typical STUPID for them to change a working law to accommodate a new law that STILL ISNT WORKING.

http://app.leg.wa.gov/DistrictFinder/

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

What are they doing now?

 

[vapor]

http://www.cannabisculture.com/cont...y-Approves-Ban-Medical-Marijuana-Dispensaries


Washington House Overwhelmingly Approves Ban On Medical Marijuana Dispensaries
By Jacob Sullum, Forbes - Wednesday, February 19 2014
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collective gardens
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Medical Marijuana
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Washington

Last night the Washington House of Representatives approved a bill that would abolish medical marijuana dispensaries, a.k.a. “collective gardens,” and impose new restrictions on patients who use cannabis for symptom relief. H.B. 2149, which passed by a vote of 67 to 29, would thereby eliminate some of the unregulated competition for the state-licensed pot stores that are expected to start opening this summer under I-502, the legalization initiative that Washington voters approved in November 2012. Supporters of the bill, which was introduced by Rep. Eileen Cody (D-West Seattle), hope that banning dispensaries will help maximize tax revenue and mollify the feds.

The bill requires patients to buy their cannabis from the same stores that serve recreational customers, which would be the only legal sellers of medical marijuana as of May 1, 2015, when the provision allowing collective gardens would be repealed. Patients could continue to grow marijuana for their own use, but the maximum number of plants would be reduced from 15 to six (three of them flowering). The ceiling on possession by patients would be cut from 24 ounces to three. The bill instructs the state Department of Health, together with the Washington State Liquor Control Board (which is charged with regulating marijuana growers, processors, and retailers), to produce a report by November 15, 2019, on the question of whether it is appropriate to continue allowing home cultivation.

- Read the entire article at Forbes

 

[hush]

Shit, that sucks for the true medical scene... basically, the state is concerned that the medical scene will act as "unregulated competition for the state-licensed pot stores" if I'm understanding this correctly. What a bunch of dicks!

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

This is the filtering process.

They are filtering many down to a few for easier control. I think the eventual outcome will be just a handful of producers, set prices and mediocre quality.

It's all about the money. It looks like they are trying to squash home growing and push those people into buying taxed mid grades.

IMO legal weed is going to strip the legitimacy of cannabis as medicine, and put it in the same league as recreation substance like alcohol, an unhealthy vice.

 

[IGROWMYOWN]

http://www.cannabisculture.com/cont...y-Approves-Ban-Medical-Marijuana-Dispensaries


Washington House Overwhelmingly Approves Ban On Medical Marijuana Dispensaries
By Jacob Sullum, Forbes - Wednesday, February 19 2014
Follow:

Bill
collective gardens
dispensaries
HB 2149
I-502
Medical Marijuana
state law
USA
Washington

Last night the Washington House of Representatives approved a bill that would abolish medical marijuana dispensaries, a.k.a. “collective gardens,” and impose new restrictions on patients who use cannabis for symptom relief. H.B. 2149, which passed by a vote of 67 to 29, would thereby eliminate some of the unregulated competition for the state-licensed pot stores that are expected to start opening this summer under I-502, the legalization initiative that Washington voters approved in November 2012. Supporters of the bill, which was introduced by Rep. Eileen Cody (D-West Seattle), hope that banning dispensaries will help maximize tax revenue and mollify the feds.

The bill requires patients to buy their cannabis from the same stores that serve recreational customers, which would be the only legal sellers of medical marijuana as of May 1, 2015, when the provision allowing collective gardens would be repealed. Patients could continue to grow marijuana for their own use, but the maximum number of plants would be reduced from 15 to six (three of them flowering). The ceiling on possession by patients would be cut from 24 ounces to three. The bill instructs the state Department of Health, together with the Washington State Liquor Control Board (which is charged with regulating marijuana growers, processors, and retailers), to produce a report by November 15, 2019, on the question of whether it is appropriate to continue allowing home cultivation.

- Read the entire article at Forbes

How was this allowed to happen? yeah I don't like the feel of washingtons setup at all sucks other than the weather its an awesome place to live I hope you guys can smooth this nonsense out some how... Everybody wants regulation legalization in Cali it seems but if this shit is coming I gotta say the nay no to that. Is it me or is that a dick move to cut their limits like that?its like kicking somebody when they're down... an F you

 

[vapor]

Sorry I dont know the ins and outs, when i saw the thread i went looking and this is what i found. Not so good. Maybe some folks from WA can fill us in on the particular////

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

Time to get dirty if this passes people from WA. If i were in WA an this went all the way through. Lmfao! Wouldnt be to hard to find who the supporters of this bill are, an figure which business are theirs..........ya know. Its pretty straight forward imho, they have no right to take what we all started. If they try , take it back. Gonna be a long road since these fat cats seen the dollar signs. Good luck.

 

[Jhhnn]

"Mollify the Feds" is a whole new angle on the usual bullshit. They put the cart ahead of the horse, so they can try to convince us it's going in the other direction.

I don't see that as necessary, given the Colorado experience so far. I figure the Feds will speak up if they're seeing a systemic problem w/ regulation before they go wild, other than against individual operators who aren't following the rules, diverting product to other markets.

Obviously, it's not about that, at all. I read it as a combination of spite over I-502 and an excuse to exert power over growing in general.

Colorado's A64 personal growing provisions stymie such efforts completely around here. Cut 'em off at the knees, it did.

As this unfolds, the sheer genius of A64 will become more apparent. Prohibitionists & control freaks will exploit any opening. It looks like WA voters left them with some wiggle room, sad to say.

Good luck with it all.

 

[therevverend]

Mollify the feds is bullshit. The feds are looking to Washington and Colorado to come up with a system that works. Then they will follow the policy that we set when they push ahead with legalization in the rest of the country. So if we set up a bullshit system in our states the feds will copy it. That is why this battle is so important.

 

[lemongrove]

This is what happens when people don't read the initiatives when they vote on them. If people would have done their research they would have known this would be the outcome. The only reason that legislator, who pretty much wrote the initiative, wanted the initiative was to raise revenue and she stated that was the case. She said she was tired of seeing programs cut or eliminated and she wanted this initiative to fund those programs. It had nothing at all to do with cannabis med. patients or marijuana really, it was only written so revenue could be raised for other programs.
I voted against it for that reason. So let this be a lesson to residents of other states. READ and fully comprehend exactly what the initiatives or laws that are proposed for their states, intend. Don't vote for it because it proposes to legalize marijuana. The devil is in the details. Now if you don't care about medical marijuana and you only want to pay exorbitant prices for mediocre pot that you can get easily at marijuana convenience stores, then by all means vote for it and they will gladly provide it for you. Oh and it will still be illegal for you to grow it.
Government agencies are ONLY about raising revenue for their pet projects and if you let them set the standards for pot legalization all you will get is a revenue generating program. They don't care about your issues, they care about theirs. Make sure any initiative or law proposed in your state is written by marijuana patients and marijuana lovers. Learn form our mistakes or you are destined to repeat them. Other states are starving for revenue also so they will look at Washington and try to copy it. Don't let them.

 

[yortbogey]

stupid is as stupid does.....
I502 hasn't even got up and running....voted in 11/12....
now 2/14.... and still NOT one single state outlet up and running.... let alone profiting and paying tax...

then the big head politicians .... trying to be greedy.... have to try and streamline the entire medical community... { been in place over 10 yrs }.....
into only allowing STATE run stores ... recreational and medical.....= GREED

why fuck w/ a program thats in place and working......just to try and gain federal favors....

WHEN the one voted into place { I502}.... is still not working 2yrs later....

on top of the FACT ....WA allows home brewing of alcohol.... and home grown tobacco....

the entire concept has been knuckledustered....WA will fail in front of America while CO
took the simple approach for success....

it's so stupid, and unrealistic.... I may move

only grow 3 plant in flower..... only keep 3 oz...... what do i do w/ the rest throw it away....cant resell it to a state-store..... it's just stupid....

 

[choom]

I really hope there's enough action in the
community to raise enough attention to
the public about this push, nothing but a
push to gain favor with the feds as Yort
mentioned, nothing more, and as far as
the patients go this is nothing but as far
counter-productive you can get. How do
they expect patients with actual issues to
receive the same amount of relief as the
recreational stoners being conned into
really bunk meds grown in subpar conditions
with quantity over quality mindsets behind
those legal state operations. It's a joke.
A terribly sad and cruel joke. Kauai seems
to be a possibility if our state doesn't pull
it's head from it's ass, I'm quite livid about
it all. Wouldn't it be something, hypothetically,
if ICMag farmers from WA strategically moved
on the same block or community in a 420
friendly location with reasonable cannabis laws.
lol

choom(0:

 

[Nirvana_Papaya]

The problem isn't really with 502, it was written to have absolutely no effect on MMJ. The problem is with the LCB and the law makers wanting to destroy MMJ because it won't make them as much money. Medicine shouldn't be taxed all, yet they still want to charge medical patients like 75% tax. Their idea of being fair to medical patients is giving them 10% off when they buy in a state store. ( not paying state sales tax )

 

[DoobTube]

as hard as it may be for the truly sick, you have to see the forest for the trees. there is a major change in the general conscience about marijuana. hence the legalization. this is all bigger than one lifetimes worth of pain and suffering. be thankful your grand children won't live in a time when it was outlawed on all levels. also be glad you don't live in canada where the laws are really going backwards. sorry to be the devils advocate but legal marijuana for everyone is more important than not

 

[MrGoodBudz]

So you guys will be maxed at 6 plant home grows? No caregivers???

 

[Nirvana_Papaya]

The bill to gut the MMJ program in Washington is officially dead. We are safe for now.

 

[kmk420kali]

It will not stand-- It will be the same as the plant limits in Cali--
A Legislation cannot limit a Voter initiative--

 

[iBogart]

The problem isn't really with 502, it was written to have absolutely no effect on MMJ. The problem is with the LCB and the law makers wanting to destroy MMJ because it won't make them as much money. Medicine shouldn't be taxed all, yet they still want to charge medical patients like 75% tax. Their idea of being fair to medical patients is giving them 10% off when they buy in a state store. ( not paying state sales tax )

I agree. Politicians can submit bills that amend what we vote in. The fight is far from over. Let your reps know how you feel about the issue. Don't think the next guy will speak for you. And if I was a WA resident, I'd be trying to get a personal grow amendment in the works like CO and Oregons SB 1556. If we can;t grow our own, how is it regulated like alcohol?