Any Idea How x_tracted Does It?

[PeopleWish]

I am not a novice by anymeans. We can produce stable slabs like this on the regular. But not 100% of the time like these guys.

Further more we have not yet been able to attain the "pre-purge" consistency like they can. It looks very useful to be able to pour out of the pot and it be stable after cooling. My suspicion is that it requires a very high CFM pump to hard vac whats in the pot rapidly.

Look at their instagram page below and lend your thoughts, in my opinion these guys are the best and havnt even tried the product.

http://instagram.com/x_tracted

 

[razor ridge]

terpinator

 

[PeopleWish]

We run closed loop rigs. We have been running them for years. I do not think that "terpinator" is the explanation for their extracts, its about how they use their closed loop.

Any ideas ? I have a few, but waiting for others to chime in.

 

[PeopleWish]

Above is an example of how 95% of our extractions turn out.

Their "prepurge" looks like our finished product. They also pull out globs that they refer to as "doughnuts" and then proceed to crumble them to dust...

 

[Weird]

maybe they are choosing particulars you aren't (strain, moisture content, freshness, point of maturation when pulled, among others)

i know some people who have taken oil to the next level and these variables have become more and more important to them

wish i had a bit more experience so i could speak with a bit more conviction but I dont think im that far off

 

[PeopleWish]

Yes are very aware of those parameters.

We pull at 50% clear to 100% milky, usually 12-7 days immature.

All rh levels are below 20%

If you look at their different strains, everyone turns out to a perfect "piss" yellow consistency. If you see something that has waxed it is because they chose for it to wax. I understand those concepts and how to attain them.

What I do not understand is how they attain that "doughnutt" prepurged consitency.

Thanks for your input Weird.

 

[-Boris]

My theory is the pour out is from a partial recovery with solvent still in the mix, and the "doughnut" is a stable muffin from a sub zero extraction.

 

[rb extractors]

they actually have had issues with their product waxing probably due to them showing off with those video's of them pouring their stuff out.

also, pulling a hard vac really quick can often result in waxing. best to pull partial vacs and let the butane escape slowly. if anything, slow and steady is the better way.

 

[PeopleWish]

I thought that if the butane was taken to 40c or lower, frozen material was used as well as multiple layers of filtering inline like 40 - 20 - 5 microns screens would effectively leave the oleoresin with-out lipids, fats and other in-soluables exe... behind. At least enough of them to prevent waxing.

 

[unregistered190]

Interesting thread as I am just learning about concentrates

 

[SativaBreather]

I have no idea but they are incredible

 

[-Boris]

I thought that if the butane was taken to 40c or lower, frozen material was used as well as multiple layers of filtering inline like 40 - 20 - 5 microns screens would effectively leave the oleoresin with-out lipids, fats and other in-soluables exe... behind. At least enough of them to prevent waxing.

Honeycomb/wax has nothing to do with water solubles. Agitation, heat, and moisture are the best known attributes to cause crystallization, not filter size or butane temperature.

 

[PeopleWish]

So the oleoresin can still wax even though it has been single solvent "dewaxed"

 

[mofeta]

I haven't looked at the instagram page you link, and don't know what the people you are talking about are doing but:

It looks very useful to be able to pour out of the pot and it be stable after cooling. My suspicion is that it requires a very high CFM pump to hard vac whats in the pot rapidly.

I think these guys gave good advice:

My theory is the pour out is from a partial recovery with solvent still in the mix, ...

...also, pulling a hard vac really quick can often result in waxing. best to pull partial vacs and let the butane escape slowly. if anything, slow and steady is the better way.

I think that agitation, whether it be whipping, excessive handling, boiling off solvent quickly/pulling hard vacuum quickly/muffining is the leading cause of non-shatter product.

You could do worse that checking out Green Dot Labs thread, he is consistently making an excellent product. Here is a link to a post he made about leaving some solvent in the pot to facilitate pouring.

Green Dot Labs- easy pour post

 

[-Boris]

So the oleoresin can still wax even though it has been single solvent "dewaxed"

most definitely

 

[prune]

If you look at their different strains, everyone turns out to a perfect "piss" yellow consistency. If you see something that has waxed it is because they chose for it to wax. I understand those concepts and how to attain them.

If all the strains are turning out the very same shade of yellow, i would suspect a custom propane-rich solvent mixture - especially if they're doing cryocycling.

 

[PeopleWish]

Thanks for the thought.

We have always left tane in the pot for these exact reasons. How ever when we pour it out it does not harden to shatter like xtracted extracts. In stead it sits as tane soup until purged. We are waiting to pick up a 50cfm pump to do tests with will keep you posted.

 

[PeopleWish]

We suspected n-propane aswell however every one of their extractions are labeled with an N butane sticker. The propane could explain for the dounutts either.

How ever you want to slice it their extracts are the prettiest most consistent in the game.

 

[Weird]

propane more selective? why would it bias color?

 

[PeopleWish]

Propane's boiling point is much lower, therefor we do not need to expose our extracts to as much heat in order to eradicate them of their solvent.