a few observations regarding the quality of cannabis in Australia

[rantan]

yea its kinda ironic, the fact that Cannabis is Prohibited brings forth a blackmarket where quality and ethics go out the window in one foul swoop

its 'home rules' , where anything and everything goes
you know yourself,
just think back at all the nefarious, under-hand irresponsible scams to wring every last $ out of Cannabis, that you have heard of
one could probably write a short novel on them

my mate he had some nice smelling commercial buds that were rock-hard and on smoking it my nasal passages became irritated and inflamed, later that arvo i had a nasty headache
Prohibition has poisoned the Mother Weed in more ways than one

 

[hard rain]

my mate he had some nice smelling commercial buds that were rock-hard and on smoking it my nasal passages became irritated and inflamed, later that arvo i had a nasty headache
Prohibition has poisoned the Mother Weed in more ways than one

That was pretty much my experience with the last commercial weed I bought. It was reasonably strong but I ended up with a headache. I doubt it was flushed properly and I reckon it was harvested at least 2-3 weeks early.

If you want good pot you have to grow it yourself.

 

[Go-Rilla Grow]

All the commercial weed I've seen in the last two years has been skunk and it's all been like you guys complain. It's light, short fast high, followed by a creeping head ache that lasts for the rest of the day.
Shit stinks real skunky, if you look close, it's never got any visible trichomes / resin glands and under microscope buds look like a shaved lettuce, like it's been through those automatic trimming machines.
Also it'll make you cough like a mother fucker.
I've heard the same complaints from Ballarat to Kunnunurra.
What's the go???

 

[J.V]

The quality of herb varies like most things......I was working with a Skunk#1 X for about 3
seasons. Saw quiet a few different pheno's, due to the cross. Though most of it was decent.
Most plants were reasonably chunky......And the potency of the Skunk#1 X was better than
the other stuff I was growing at the time. Mind you...it was not a stable strain due to the cross. I think the word Skunk gets used a lot as a generic term...A bling word....something
that will sell.. The bud you talk of reminds me of some stuff a friend of a friend picked up
for dry sieve...Bought a pound on the cheap,...looked solid...though had bugger all resin.
I think that was due to the fact it was not mature enough...Needless to say....that run of dry sieve would have been very average....In regard to commercial weed.....a lot of people do a shit trim job in order to process fast and move.....

 

[Crocodile OG]

All the commercial weed I've seen in the last two years has been skunk and it's all been like you guys complain. It's light, short fast high, followed by a creeping head ache that lasts for the rest of the day.
Shit stinks real skunky, if you look close, it's never got any visible trichomes / resin glands and under microscope buds look like a shaved lettuce, like it's been through those automatic trimming machines.
Also it'll make you cough like a mother fucker.
I've heard the same complaints from Ballarat to Kunnunurra.
What's the go???

Sounds like Viet-Bong commercial weed.

Full of PGR's. Paclobutrazol reduces stretch and resin and is a known carcinogen.

Most of the commercial weed is grown by asian and middle eastern gangs.

Turn back those buds!!!

 

[Darkbluelight]

Good to see some Aussies here.

This thread goes back to mid 2011 and I'm sure the issue of quality has been around since a while before. I have been out of the scene for some years now, just getting into growing for the reasons this thread was started, and for personal meds. My experience goes way back to 70/80's London when the crims were taking over the trade from the hippies and the hippies were turning to H in drought, it all went south from there - what happens there comes here, shame but the bright side is we eventually grow our own - if we're lucky.

I have had some toxic weed in NE NSW, chemical taste, paranoia inducing. No doubt a good commercial or industrial cleaning product, but not a good smoke.

Anyway, see you round ...

 

[wallywombat]

i would say 90% of oz commercial pot is full of PGRS and other nasty shit

 

[buegeman]

Remember seasol contains plenty of PGR's

Chock full of paclo in reality lol sad but true reality, as most of these commercial growers don't necessarily have the horticultural skills needed to produce large amounts safely and efficiently. Same goes with there pest management, which would most likely be spray with Bifethrin or another hard chem as soon as pests appear to make em disappear

 

[wallywombat]

fuck im off the seasol for now i have switched to a 100 organic certified kelp/seaweed powder instead , thanks for the info buegeman i thought seasol was too good to be true

( LOL )

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day WW

Dude it was a joke .
PGR = Plant Growth Regulators . Gibberellin, Cytokinins and Auxin . Are in the Kelp . If you chose Kelp biased toward Auxin it can slow stretch . If you use a Gibberellin bias product can help grow plants taller . Cytokinins promote cell division . All useful if you understand how to use them to your advantage .

Placobutinol is for stunting trees . Not for smoking .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[wallywombat]

hahaha now i feel extremly stupid elmer hahahahahhaa thanks for educating me ! so if kelpslows stretch whats a organic product with gibberellin in it ? is placobutinol is whats in the chemical nutes ?

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day WW

Seasol has the PGRs just that they are all natural from the Kelp .
Placo is used in the forestry industry for stunting tees .

The plants make their own PGRs to flip from veg to flower or make seeds all require PGRs .

You`ll need to do some study to find Kelp with the Auxin or Gibberellin ratios . But they are natural ways to help shape growth . Placo is poison . And like some one said earlier inhibits resin development .

I used to be searching for one of those clones that grows the rock hard nuggs like I used to buy . I realise now they don`t exist in real life . They are good cuts treated with Placo to tighten the nodes .
I see U Turn on the shelf at my local hydro shop . Checked the label and yep, Placo . Nasty stuff .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[buegeman]

Yep sorry, my previous comment was a bit sarcastic.

Re-reading it I actually meant buds are commonly chock full of paclo not seasol my bad.

Everything above is correct.

 

[b00m]

Nice bit of info there Elmer mate, thanks for dropping the knowledge on us

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Bueg

I got it .
Wally missed it but . So it was a chance to waffle .

Best tip I`ve learnt lately is the buds can feed themselves !
ie you can foliar feed them . I use Cal Mag . Then 3 days later amino K Potash . The Cal Mag sets up the bonding with the K and it goes straight to the bud . The flowers get bigger than when I don`t do it . Amazed I haven`t heard of it on the boards .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[idiit]

post from earlier in this thread:

Quote:
Originally Posted by idiit View Post
i believe that reinvigorating overly inbred man made strains with true landrace nature selected strains is the answer to the genetic aspect. cash crop stackin paper mentality will not produce the quality that pride and love for the herb can produce. this topic is of great interest to me however it is also highly susceptible to "flame posts". i'm no authority. just my cents2.
Hi mate,thank-you very much for the post,and i must say i agree entirely,this is exactly what i was looking for,and value the opinion of all,i think we are all adults,and can treat this topic seriously without any B.S!
This is a highly relevent discusuion i feel,and could became a realt great thread and rsource,and could be kept going fo many year to gain a lerger picture of what is happening.and what change needs to be made,i look foprward to a great thread,thanks..Sensient

southern star seeds (aussie seed compamy) offers nanan bouclou; haitian/png.

ozg (sss proprietor) and i have exchanged a few emails. he got the haitian from a haitian native. he got the png in australia from a local non native iirc. bushweed has more info on this stuff.

nanan bouclou imo is a real big deal. i've got a png heavily influenced clone (three loctions) and a haitian dom clone (one location) od. the png dom clone suprisingly is ahead in flowering of the haitian. i thought the png dom would be very late flowering and i needed to make room indoors for more stuff so i put it out very early. this baby is stacking some serious frost. indoors she was very potent with an excellent high (sativa ). great smell to the smoke.

i'll post updates. nanan bouclou is a super star from early indications and is a landrace polyhybrid. looks like incredible bag appeal potential.

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day idiit

The lad didn`t need to go to PNG or Haiti to collect credibility to his hype train .
There are plenty of good strains in Oz if you know people .

Sounds like a kid starting a seed Co to me .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[TheBatCave]

my waterfarms rock i upgraded my set up to 16 pots in the one system
im pulling 3-4 pounds every 8 weeks

 

[b00m]

That's a rocking amount to being pulling there TBC bruz
Awesome job mate

 

[Goldust]

my waterfarms rock i upgraded my set up to 16 pots in the one system
im pulling 3-4 pounds every 8 weeks

Bloody hell I wouldnt know that to do with that much