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are you a "conspiracy theorist"?

are you a "conspiracy theorist"?


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HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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...and your ignorant post above reveals your true character.

do not bring such asinine, idiotic, psychopathic comments into an otherwise sane discussion.

:hotbounce

You want to know what ignorance is? Ignorance is starting a thread that just by it's nature is likely to get it closed and then engage in the very behavior which is why these threads get closed. Like what you posted above. These threads don't get closed because the site is afraid of truth coming out or they don't like truth being questioned. They close these threads because people like you when losing tend to get rude and insulting and belligerent which leads to a lot of negativity and bad feelings.
 

The iD

Member
interesting to think of what one gains by arguing for one side or the other. why would one argue against the status quo and become a "conspiracy theorist" when it has so many negative implications? also, why would one so ardently defend this same hegelian dialectic? what do these individuals have to gain and lose from their actions? quite funny tho, a bunch of people conspiring to grow a plant arguing if conspiracies exist or not. ignorance is truly bliss. and patience a virtue. time shall tell. always does.
 

Storm Shadow

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http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R41347.pdf

Page 10 sums up all the Invasions in science terms ...

Why did the CIA kick out the Russians from Afghanistan? Perhaps to engage in the raping of all REE that the Russians also knew about... I mean come on now...its not like the US and USSR back then didn't have a lock on Space tech ...scan those grounds with Satellites and find that Treasure...

North Korea + Afghanistan = 10Trillion Dollars in REE.. This is all about $$$ and Power

USA has NO REE RESERVES....
 

Storm Shadow

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/china-corners-over-90-of-market-for-rare-earth-metals/13853

China Corners Over 90% of Market for Rare-Earth Metals

China has cornered 97% of the world market for rare earth metals, according to Byron King (the Times Online puts the number at 95%, and the Financial Times puts the number at “over 90%”).

What are rare earth metals? Most people define them as including the following 17 metals:

Cerium
Dysprosium
Erbium
Europium
Gadolinium
Holmium
Lanthanum
Lutetium
Neodymium
Praseodymium
Promethium
Samarium
Scandium
Terbium
Thulium
Ytterbium
Yttrium

Some people also include some or all of the Actinide Series elements as rare earths. The Actinides include:

Actinium
Americium
Berkelium
Californium
Curium
Einsteinium
Fermium
Lawrencium
Mendelevium
Neptunium
Nobelium
Plutonium
Protactinium
Thorium
Uranium
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
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look at the night sky
the brightest star is where your eye will focus
that doesn't eliminate the other stars

thank you Payaso for allowing this much disclosure, and thank you to the contributers and willing visiters for your support and convictions.

having become emotionally involved, I am abdicating involvement and will watch from the side in hopes that this thread can continue without the bickering and discord.

simplest solution happens to be the hardest to believe.

:tiphat:good day friends.



You want to know what ignorance is? Ignorance is starting a thread that just by it's nature is likely to get it closed and then engage in the very behavior which is why these threads get closed. Like what you posted above. These threads don't get closed because the site is afraid of truth coming out or they don't like truth being questioned. They close these threads because people like you when losing tend to get rude and insulting and belligerent which leads to a lot of negativity and bad feelings.

:laughing:
 

trichrider

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Justice Group Warns of Obama Plan to Put Government Monitors in Newsrooms


The Alex Jones Channel Alex Jones Show podcast Prison Planet TV Infowars.com Twitter Alex Jones' Facebook Infowars store



FCC researchers would pressure the press on what to cover

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
February 19, 2014

The American Center for Law and Justice is warning of an Obama administration plan to place government monitors in newsrooms via an FCC proposal that could turn every major news network and newspaper into little more than a state media mouthpiece.


Image: CNN Newsroom (Wikimedia Commons).

FCC Commissioner Ajit Pai recently lifted the lid on a shocking White House proposal entitled ‘Multi-Market Study of Critical Information Needs’ that would dispatch researchers from the federal agency “to grill reporters, editors and station owners about how they decide which stories to run.”

According to Pai, the program is about “pressuring media organizations into covering certain stories.” In other words – the fairness doctrine on steroids.

“That’s right, the Obama Administration has developed a formula of what it believes the free press should cover, and it is going to send government monitors into newsrooms across America to stand over the shoulders of the press as they make editorial decisions,” writes the ACLJ’s Matthew Clark, noting that the plan would also extend to newspapers, which the FCC doesn’t even have any business being involved with.

Distrust in mainstream media has been on a steady decline for years, with a recent Gallup poll confirming that just 23 per cent of Americans trust the institution of television news. This lack of confidence has driven ratings down, with MSNBC losing almost half of its viewers over the course of just 12 months, shedding 45 per cent of its audience. CNN also lost 48 per cent of its viewers over the same time period.

The United States’ world ranking in terms of freedom of the press also recently fell to number 46, below the likes of South Africa, Slovenia and Lithuania.

Earlier this month, the New York Times’s own writers told a newspaper that NY Times opinion pieces are now seen as “irrelevant” and have no impact on public discourse whatsoever.

The FCC’s attempt to police newsrooms is a desperate attempt to redress the fact that, as Hillary Clinton admitted, the Obama administration is “losing the information war” to other news sources whose audiences are growing.

However, those alternative news outlets are not growing because of slick propaganda, they are stealing audience share from the mainstream because they at least try to act in an adversarial role to the state rather than being a conduit for its talking points.

“Every major repressive regime of the modern era has begun with an attempt to control and intimidate the press,” warns Clark, adding, “It’s hard to imagine anything more brazenly Orwellian than government monitors in newsrooms.”
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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Here is something interesting to think about. My parents are regular sort of upper middle class 9-5ers. Use the internet a bit but get most of their news through the newspaper and nightly television. They have a subscription to Time magazine and read it regularly.

I was talking to them about 9/11 conspiracy stuff the other day and they had no clue about building 7. They looked at me like I was crazy when I started to describe another building falling down and showed them video footage of it.

It would be really interesting to know the percentage of Americans who don't know about building 7. That conversation with my parents surprised me.

I'm surprised they didn't know about it. Most of America was glued to the television for weeks after 9/11. The only way to not know about WTC would be if you weren't really paying much attention to what you were watching on TV or reading in Time Magazine.
 

gaiusmarius

me
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i wish folks would understand that dabating is all about debating the subject. as soon as ones comments start being about the other parties attributes or lack there of, one has basically lost the debate. as soon as one needs to attack the other party in the debate rather then attacking what they are saying, one has failed to carry the debate for all reasonable people. because it means one has found no holes in the discussed subject matter and is resorting to cheap shots aimed at the messenger. it's an old tactic, tried and tested, but recognized easily for what it is.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
interesting to think of what one gains by arguing for one side or the other. why would one argue against the status quo and become a "conspiracy theorist" when it has so many negative implications? also, why would one so ardently defend this same hegelian dialectic? what do these individuals have to gain and lose from their actions? quite funny tho, a bunch of people conspiring to grow a plant arguing if conspiracies exist or not. ignorance is truly bliss. and patience a virtue. time shall tell. always does.

Nobody is arguing if conspiracies in general exist, obviously they do or else there would be no need to create a word to describe them. What is being argued is the validity of conspiracy theories which are things unproven that look and feel like they might be conspiracies.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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i wish folks would understand that dabating is all about debating the subject. as soon as ones comments start being about the other parties attributes or lack there of, one has basically lost the debate. as soon as one needs to attack the other party in the debate rather then attacking what they are saying, one has failed to carry the debate for all reasonable people. because it means one has found no holes in the discussed subject matter and is resorting to cheap shots aimed at the messenger. it's an old tactic, tried and tested, but recognized easily for what it is.

Like when you say the things someone puts forth as possibile alternatives are BS even though you don't and admit you don't have the qualifications to make such determinations?
 

LyryC

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SORRY BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CONSPIRACY THEORIST.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER LABEL CREATED BY A CONFUSED SOCIETY TO LABEL OTHERS WHO BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH.

Can't vote yes and can't vote no. Sorry but I would be lying because Im not a theorist I'm an activist - its not a fucking theory if its the truth and you are just trying to get a message out there.

And nothing is a conspiracy these days with 9/11 being an inside job - fluoride ruining our minds and bodies and GMOs polluting hte planet - besides the 1000000 other terrible things going on thanks to corporate government elite bullshit.

So yes I believe in all the turmoil going on in the world right now at the hands of a very few select rich and powerful ( I would love to use the N word here since thats how I see it - not as in a racist context like the rest of you fools who let racism live on through you!) just because im part of the 99% and Im awake and not a modern day slave - does not make me a conspiracy theorist.

The problem is fools let themselves be labeled this and accept it unknowing to the own demise they accept.

We are just distracted and simultaneously deceived of the truth. Aka hollywood - Western Media and Social Media... More people play farmville than probably do community service.
 

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trichrider

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H.Res. 442, the Stop This Overreaching Presidency Resolution, directs the House to institute legal action to require the President to comply with the law. This resolution does not require a vote in the Senate.
•Article II, Section 3 of the United States Constitution entitled, “Presidential Responsibilities”, states that the President “shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." However, President Obama has chosen to ignore some of the laws written by Congress.
•The President has repeatedly ignored this Constitutionally-mandated duty, to include:
1.His one-year extension of the “substandard” insurance policies.
2.His one-year delay in Obamacare’s employer mandate.
3.Granting deferred removal action to illegal immigrants.
4.His waiver of the welfare work requirement under TANF.

H. Res. 442 Cosponsors (111):

Amodei (NV-2), Bachmann (MN-6), Bachus (AL-6), Barletta (PA-11), Barr (KY-6), Barton (TX-6), Benishek (MI-1), Bentivolio (MI-11), Black (TN-6), Blackburn (TN-7), Boustany (LA-3), Bridenstine (OK-1), Brooks (AL-5), Broun (GA-10), Burgess (TX-26), Byrne (AL-1), Campbell (CA-45), Carter (TX-31), Chabot (OH-1), Chaffetz (UT-3),Collins (GA-9), Cramer (ND-At Large), Crawford (AR-1), Culberson (TX-7), Daines (MT-At Large), Davis (IL-13), DesJarlais (TN-4), DeSantis (FL-6), Jeff Duncan (SC-3), John Duncan (TN-2), Ellmers (NC-2), Farenthold (TX-27), Fincher (TN-8), Fleischmann (TN-3), Flores (TX-17), Franks (AZ-8), Gibbs (OH-7), Gingrey (GA-11), Gosar (AZ-4), Gowdy (SC-4), Tom Graves (GA-14), Griffin (AR-2), Ralph Hall (TX-4), Harris (MD-1), Hensarling (TX-5), Hudson (NC-8), Huelskamp (KS-1), Hunter (CA-50), Johnson (OH-6), Jones (NC-3), Joyce (OH-14), Steve King (IA-4), Kingston (GA-1), LaMalfa (CA-1), Lamborn (CO-5), Lance (NJ-07), Lankford (OK-5), Latta (OH-5), Luetkemeyer (MO-3), Marchant (TX-24), Marino (PA-10), McClintock (CA-4), McHenry (NC-10), Meadows (NC-11), Messer (IN-6), Mica (FL-7), Candace Miller (MI-10), Jeff Miller (FL-1), Mullin (OK-2), Mulvaney (SC-5), Neugebauer (TX-19), Nugent (FL-11), Nunnelee (MS-1), Palazzo (MS-4), Perry (PN-4), Pittenger (NC-9), Posey (FL-8), Tom Price (GA-6), Ribble (WI-8), Roby (AL-2), Roe (TN-1), Hal Rogers (KY-5), Mike Rogers (AL-3), Rohrabacher (CA-48), Rothfus (PA-12), Salmon (AZ-5), Sanford (SC-1), Scalise (LA-1), Schweikert (AZ-6), Scott (GA-8), Sessions (TX-32), Shuster (PA-9), Simpson (ID-2), Jason Smith (MO-8), Lamar Smith (TX-21), Stewart (UT-2), Stockman (TX-36), Southerland (FL-2), Tiberi (OH-12),Walberg (MI-7), Walden (OR-2), Walorski (IN-2),Weber (TX-14),Wenstrup(OH-2), Westmoreland (GA-3), Williams (TX-25), Joe Wilson (SC-2), Womack (AR-3), Woodall (GA-7), Yoho (FL-3), Don Young (AK-At Large)
 

trichrider

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February 20, 2014

Report: Farmers’ Almanac more accurate than gov’t climate scientists Reply

Hmmm? • Tags: CBS News, Farmers Almanac, Great Lakes, Midwestern United States, New England


EEV: Some think Scientific Method is Theory, Hypothesis, then Observation – Others Observation, Hypothesis, then Theory

U.S. President Barack Obama walks with farmers Joe Del Bosque and Maria Del Bosque as he tours a drought affected farm field in Los Banos, California February 14, 2014. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

Posted By Michael Bastasch On 12:17 PM 02/20/2014 In


This exceptionally cold and snowy winter has shown that government climate scientists were dead wrong when it came to predicting just how cold this winter would be, while the 197-year old Farmers’ Almanac predicted this winter would be “bitterly cold”.

Bloomberg Businessweek reports that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Climate Prediction Center (CPC) predicted temperatures would be “above normal from November through January across much of the lower 48 states.”

This, however, was dead wrong. As Bloomberg notes, the CPC underestimated the “mammoth December cold wave, which brought snow to Dallas and chilled partiers in Times Square on New Year’s Eve.”

CPC grades its prediction accuracy on a Heidke skill score, which ranges from 100 (percent accuracy) to -50 (no better than playing pin the tail on the donkey while blindfolded).

CPC’s score for October’s weather predictions for November through January was -22 and the September weather prediction for October through December was at -23.

“Not one of our better forecasts,” Mike Halpert, the Climate Prediction Center’s acting director, told Bloomberg Businessweek.

What actually happened this winter? A “polar vortex” swept down and caused every state except Florida to experience snowfall and brought about 4,406 record low temperatures across the U.S. in January along with 1,073 record snowfalls.

The most recent winter storm that slammed into the eastern U.S. last week knocked out power for more than 1 million people in the Southeast and caused 21 deaths along the East Coast. More than 2,500 flights were delayed last Friday and 1,500 were canceled from East Coast airports.

Who could have predicted such a harsh winter? The Farmers Almanac did, according to a CBS News report from August 2013. The nearly 200-year old publication hit newsstands last summer and predicted that “a winter storm will hit the Northeast around the time the Super Bowl is played at MetLife Stadium in the Meadowlands in New Jersey,” and also predicted “a colder-than-normal winter for two-thirds of the country and heavy snowfall in the Midwest, Great Lakes and New England.”

“We’re using a very strong four-letter word to describe this winter, which is C-O-L-D. It’s going to be very cold,” Sandi Duncan, the almanac’s managing editor, told CBS News in August.

While there was thankfully no snow on Super Bowl Sunday, those sad Broncos fans trying to get back home from New Jersey had some trouble as snow started falling the day after the most important football game of the year.

The Midwest and Great Lakes regions also saw terribly cold weather and record levels of snowfall this winter. Major Midwest cities like Chicago, Cincinnati and Detroit have seen record levels of snowfall. Chicago alone saw 45.8 inches of snow by the end of January, and, as of Friday, the Great Lakes were 90 percent frozen over.

The Midwest and New England were hit with frigid weather and snow for long periods of time. So long, in fact, that there were propane shortages and natural gas prices spiked due to increased need for heating and supply bottlenecks.

The Farmers’ Almanac makes predictions based on planetary positions, sunspots and lunar cycles — a prediction system that has remained largely unchanged since its first publication in 1818. While modern scientists don’t put much stock in the almanac’s way of doing things, the book says its accurate about 80 percent of the time.

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gaiusmarius

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Like when you say the things someone puts forth as possibile alternatives are BS even though you don't and admit you don't have the qualifications to make such determinations?

im discussing my opinion of the subject, not the poster. i didnt say you are bs, i said a certain part of what you posted was not plausible, not sure of my wording as you didnt quote the post, so no idea which particular one you think was a personal attack rather then a rebuttal of your subject matter, but if you did feel personally attacked then i apologize. maybe i was disappointed with the points you raised, as it had just been really well covered in that pentagon event related analysis youtube link.
 

idiit

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"To be conscious that you are ignorant is a great step to knowledge."

my sig used to be "a glass full of itself has no room". ^ that's in line with what i was sayin.

i started a thread on the "shackle burns" caused by the human ego. i now doubt that "the human ego" is actually human in origin; i think the ego is an archon implant to make us like them. but hey!, that's another conspiracy theory :) .
 

idiit

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Annie Jacobsen’s new book is called Operation Paperclip: The Secret Intelligence Program That Brought Nazi Scientists to America. It isn’t terribly secret anymore, of course, and it was never very intelligent. Jacobsen has added some details, and the U.S. government is still hiding many more. But the basic facts have been available; they’re just left out of most U.S. history books, movies, and television programs.

^ two reality theories detailed:

one, our educational systems are "edited for content".

two, america integrated a bunch of nazis into her infrastructure.

the grandpa bush nazi connection is not covered in msm but well known to alternative media types. yes it's a big deal. :)

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/02/operation-nazification.html
 

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