Bio-Ag Ful-Power Quick Question

[TwistedPistils]

I do plan on getting some of this soon, but for now I was wondering if Humega was a suitable alternate? I have a bottle left over from my hydro-store brain washed days.
Lovin' the bottle free life!
Thanks guys!

 

[BlueJayWay]

Not even close, fulpower is probably the highest quality Fulvic Acid produced in the world.

Humega is 4% Humic Acid derived from leonardite

 

[TwistedPistils]

I just wanna know if I can use it up, or should I just toss it...

 

[soursmoker]

I think what BJW is trying to say is you will need a lot of Humega to get the levels of Ful-Power, I think? idk im stoned.

 

[TwistedPistils]

I think what BJW is trying to say is you will need a lot of Humega to get the levels of Ful-Power, I think? idk im stoned.

LOL! So it won't hurt to use it up here and there?

 

[yakumax]

I just bought a bottle online, is the color suppose to bear near clear with no smell? I'm hoping i didn't get rip off. Is there a way to test it?

 

[h.h.]

I just bought a bottle online, is the color suppose to bear near clear with no smell? I'm hoping i didn't get rip off. Is there a way to test it?

yes

 

[Swollencalyx]

This stuff is amazing!!! It looks like light golden water and in fact the almost same fulvic acid used in dietary supplements. You could drink it. You may want to decrease nutrients a touch when adding this to your schedule. It's like humid acid steroids.

 

[Team Microbe]

This stuff is amazing!!! It looks like light golden water and in fact the almost same fulvic acid used in dietary supplements. You could drink it. You may want to decrease nutrients a touch when adding this to your schedule. It's like humid acid steroids.

I wonder what the difference between FulPower fulvic acid and the dietary supplements are?

I recently discovered Shilajit, which is a dietary fulvic acid with over 85 minerals and a broad range of elements as well. I'm about to experiment with it in the garden I think...

Is FulPower more superior than pure Himalayan Shilajit?

 

[B4URTIME]

Supernal Sublime Fulvic Acid 95% is what I have been using, Best band for the buck and it's clean.

It's a high concentration and a little goes a very long way.

Supernal Sublime Fulvic Acid is sourced from peat and harvested for the potting soil industry, then steam is used to extract and concetrate it to an outstanding MINIMUM of 95%. The other =/- 5% is amino acid fractions and trace minerals. Proud to say there is zero use of chemicals in the process.

 

[B4URTIME]

That last paragraph is a copy paste from the suppliers product information.

 

[Team Microbe]

Supernal Sublime Fulvic Acid 95% is what I have been using, Best band for the buck and it's clean.

It's a high concentration and a little goes a very long way.

Supernal Sublime Fulvic Acid is sourced from peat and harvested for the potting soil industry, then steam is used to extract and concetrate it to an outstanding MINIMUM of 95%. The other =/- 5% is amino acid fractions and trace minerals. Proud to say there is zero use of chemicals in the process.

I can't seem to find their website for Supernal..

But don't you think that cold pressed fulvic acid from the Himalayas would be of higher quality, not only because there's no heat involved (which would do less harm to valuable compounds) but because of where it's sourced from?

I'm using FulPower by BioAg and that's 56% Fulvic.

Shilajit has anywhere from 40-60% so it hovers in that range but also has over 85 minerals (all of which plants need) along with a list of other compounds that boost plant immunity and health levels on their own...

Biologically important classes of compounds of shilajit includes:
Dibenzo-alpha pyrones, phospholipids, triterpenes and phenolic acids of low molecular weight, Fulvic acids: “carrier molecules”, Humins, humic acids, and Trace elements (Fe, Ca, Cu, Zn, Mg, Mn, Mo, P)


Thoughts?

 

[B4URTIME]

I can't seem to find their website for Supernal..

But don't you think that cold pressed fulvic acid from the Himalayas would be of higher quality, not only because there's no heat involved (which would do less harm to valuable compounds) but because of where it's sourced from?

I'm using FulPower by BioAg and that's 56% Fulvic.

Shilajit has anywhere from 40-60% so it hovers in that range but also has over 85 minerals (all of which plants need) along with a list of other compounds that boost plant immunity and health levels on their own...

Biologically important classes of compounds of shilajit includes:
Dibenzo-alpha pyrones, phospholipids, triterpenes and phenolic acids of low molecular weight, Fulvic acids: “carrier molecules”, Humins, humic acids, and Trace elements (Fe, Ca, Cu, Zn, Mg, Mn, Mo, P)


Thoughts?

I am in agreement with your paragraph for the most part. The heat distillation would probably damage viable compounds.

However for our application, I believe purer to be better. In most current soil mixes, or living soils, Most of those elements were added in abundance with various products and rock dust. I believe if your starting soil is rich and ample in all of the above why would you want the chelate to contain them as well.

I want the fulvic acid free standing so it can bind with what I have in my soils rather then just carry what it has already binded with into the plant tissues.

Just think if you add to many elements to your fulvic its gonna be just transporting it right into your plants.

The cold pressed product with the ample compounds in it would be better suited for a foliar application for plants that are deficient or just for foliar application.

 

[B4URTIME]

For a soil drench application I'd be more inclined to believe higher concentration less compounds to be better, so the fulvic is free to bind with the soil elements.

 

[Team Microbe]

I am in agreement with your paragraph for the most part. The heat distillation would probably damage viable compounds.

However for our application, I believe purer to be better. In most current soil mixes, or living soils, Most of those elements were added in abundance with various products and rock dust. I believe if your starting soil is rich and ample in all of the above why would you want the chelate to contain them as well.

I want the fulvic acid free standing so it can bind with what I have in my soils rather then just carry what it has already binded with into the plant tissues.

Just think if you add to many elements to your fulvic its gonna be just transporting it right into your plants.

The cold pressed product with the ample compounds in it would be better suited for a foliar application for plants that are deficient or just for foliar application.

Thanks for the feedback -

So what you're saying is since there are already mineral compounds/elements in the Shilajit, the fulvic acid/humic acid in it won't be able to bind with elements in my soil?

If this is the case, it sounds like it may be more suitable for what you mentioned - an "all purpose" foliar spray or maybe even a drench for deficient soils.

Two T.O. cuttings nominated for testing

I started testing it this week out of curiosity, and put about a pea-sized ball of resin into a gallon of water to let it solubilize. It takes about 4-5 minutes in cold water, and a little less time in warmer water. I've got a control that will get plain water, and one that will get Shilajit once a week via drench/foliar. It's been 2 days since the first drench and no ill effects have been noticed so far.

I also tried it out on one of my green bean plants in the garden, and I shit you not it finally began fruiting a few days post-drench. I'll upload pics of that in the new thread I'm starting about this side by side, I'll try to remember to paste the link in this thread or my signature so you can follow along to see how it goes

 

[Mikell]

I wonder what the difference between FulPower fulvic acid and the dietary supplements are?

I recently discovered Shilajit, which is a dietary fulvic acid with over 85 minerals and a broad range of elements as well. I'm about to experiment with it in the garden I think...

Is FulPower more superior than pure Himalayan Shilajit?

None, I believe.

I emailed them a few years back and they suggested I order the human supplement to circumvent restricted imports as a plant supplement.

 

[B4URTIME]

Thanks for the feedback -

So what you're saying is since there are already mineral compounds/elements in the Shilajit, the fulvic acid/humic acid in it won't be able to bind with elements in my soil?

If this is the case, it sounds like it may be more suitable for what you mentioned - an "all purpose" foliar spray or maybe even a drench for deficient soils.

Well not exactly, I wouldn't say won't be able to bind with elements in the soil, It would be less available to bind is a better way to put it. I'm sure there is a % available to bind with soil elements. I just meant purer would leave more to bind with the soil elements.

 

[Team Microbe]

None, I believe.

I emailed them a few years back and they suggested I order the human supplement to circumvent restricted imports as a plant supplement.

Ahhh, I see.

Now, Shilajit is restricted as a plant supplement they said?

Well not exactly, I wouldn't say won't be able to bind with elements in the soil, It would be less available to bind is a better way to put it. I'm sure there is a % available to bind with soil elements. I just meant purer would leave more to bind with the soil elements.

Gotcha! This makes sense.

 

[Mikell]

I don't know that, I was refering to BioAg.

 

[Team Microbe]

I don't know that, I was refering to BioAg.

Ahhh, gotcha. Yeah they must be the same then, good to know!