I can't clone for shti!!!!!'

[PetFlora]

I forgot to mention I only use small polished ornamental rock (Dollar Store) to hold the clone in place inside the net pot. Cut stem long enough to hang ~ 1" outside net pot bottom

A spectrum blend of ~ 4000K accelerates root development

 

[tokersmoke]

I use rockwool cubes in a humidity dome with a small cfl.I cut good sized clones and trim the leaves.I make a 45 degree cut at a node and split, scrape, the stem.I have also noticed lower growth roots faster then tops!keep at it youll get it. I use clonex as well

I was growing in a house without a heater the clones sat there for 20 days without roots.Immediately after moving things back to the original location they rooted in 5 days.Most of the clones were beyond saving but i potted everyone and all but one survived.So as long as the clones dont get moldy then can come back with even a little green left in the leaves.

If you wanna try rockwool only wet the cube initially then spray the dome for three days once a day,the cube should only need a splash of water once a week till rooting. once every other day i spray the dome quickly after the first three days.if youre medium is constantly wet the plant wont grow roots!So in my usual location i get 95 percent success and see roots in 10 days everytime!

 

[tokersmoke]

If i dont see roots after ten days i begin taking the dome off to harden them and force them to root,once the clones wilt i spray the dome and set em back in then rinse and repeat till i see roots.

 

[WelderDan]

Perlite for the medium, Root-Tone (powder), or Shultz Take-Root, sharp clean razor, tap water, cup of tap water, toothpick

I use a clear plastic water bottle cut in half. Fill with perlite, soak with tap water, drain excess.

Cut X number of clones, leaving a little bit longer stem.

Trim excess leaves. Only need the top pair.

Use toothpick to create a hole in the center of the damp perlite.

Cut clone using clean razor just below a node at a 45 degree angle. Scarify the tip a bit (scrape off the cambium layer), dip in water and then Root-tone. Place in hole in damp perlite, press around clone to stabilize, repeat.

I put them in my mother cab under CFL lights, either away from direct light, or on a little shelf above the lights. Nice and warm, and roots in 7-10 days. Almost 100% success. NO HUMIDITY DOME NEEDED.

I've tried many methods, this one does it for me. Can go straight to dirt or Hydro too.

 

[Lapides]

Me neither. I'm getting better though.

 

[FunkJungle]

I can pop in rockwool just as fast as your cloner.
and thwy arent all water roots.
water cloners r cool for hydro systems but I use coco.
yea you gwt huge rootballs oit of a cloner but half of em die when you put em in any other medium besides hydro.
I also think that clones in rockwol transplanted seem to take off faster an have less initial shock.
They work better for me...
I don't mind buyin a lil rockwool an clonex if it makes my life easy an my babies happy.

Hey whateva works for ya, it's all good. I've done rockwool it works just fine. As long as you are able to keep your babies going.

FYI I grow in coco also.

 

[Garhart]

One of those things in life - can be so simple - or the hardest thing. I have had it both ways and wish I could put a finger on what the differences were.
The one method I have yet to give a whirl is what has often been described as the 'world's best ' - just because I can't bring myself to go into a walmart store to buy anything.

 

[St3ve]

I don't ph the cuts. I mist until the dome is foggy. Always cut the leaves. Crazy part is the leaves are growing back lol. Cut the base last thanks for that tip.

how long are you leaving the dome on?

Sounds to me like you are keeping them too wet. The ONLY time you need to mist the dome is if its BONE DRY in the room. Like less than 30% RH in the air. As soon as you put the dome on, the water that is evaporating quickly from the heat mat is filling the air. I haven't sprayed a dome in years..

After 24hours I open the vents on the dome and kick it sideways to let a lot of air in. If after a few hours they aren't drooping I take it off all the way. If they droop, I put it back on (with the vents open). They always pop back up. Then after another 24 hours I try again, and usually its fine. I would never recommend leaving the dome on for more than two days. Most (almost always) I have the dome off after the first 24 hours. You WANT the plant to have to pull the water from the stem.. it will encourage it to grow roots.

 

[stoned-trout]

temp,humidity,and not too wet medium,.. I don't like rapid rooters myself...in a jam I use perlite its almost foolproof....

 

[Jnugg]

I just cut the shoot at a 45° angle at a node,quickly throw it into water to keep any air from getting into the stem,hydrate my rapid rooter plugs,pull the cut from the water and scrape outer stem tissue from the next node up from where I made my 45° cut and to the base where I made the cut,shove it into my rapid rooter plugs,place plugs into seedling tray with holes which goes into a tray without holes,mist the humidity dome and leave the vents on the dome shut,slap the dome on.

In 10 to 14 days I have rooted clones.90% to 100% success rate all the time.


Two days after misting the dome and haven't had to mist it again yet...perfect RH% in there...

 

[doneit]

When it takes that long and your conditions are relatively good, 99% of the time its bacteria/fungi that is preventing them from rooting.

Go to the dollar store and get 3% peroxide, give them a good soak and loose the dome.

The dome should only be used for the first couple of days, then you ween em off of it.
The dome will promote bacteria/fungi growth if used to long with hi humidity and heat pad.

The peroxide will kill the bad shit, small roots to, however you will be surprised at how fast they root after that, usually 3 days roots will start to blow out!

After you treat with the peroxide do not water till they are almost dry, then a light feed at 6.0 ph

good luck!

 

[Jnugg]

When it takes that long and your conditions are relatively good, 99% of the time its bacteria/fungi that is preventing them from rooting.

Go to the dollar store and get 3% peroxide, give them a good soak and loose the dome.

The dome should only be used for the first couple of days, then you ween em off of it.
The dome will promote bacteria/fungi growth if used to long with hi humidity and heat pad.

The peroxide will kill the bad shit, small roots to, however you will be surprised at how fast they root after that, usually 3 days roots will start to blow out!

After you treat with the peroxide do not water till they are almost dry, then a light feed at 6.0 ph

good luck!

Or you could use a vented humidity done like I do.Keep the vents completely shut for 3 to 5 days and then open ine just barely,the next day open another just barely,a day or two later open the top one just barely,and over the course of a few days after that open all three even more.

 

[packerfan79]

Rockwool soak en in clonex solution Ph 5.5 shave e m cut thru a node.dip em in rootech.fill your tray 1/4 full mist once open vents a little each day. After a week take the dome off and wait. I used to have MAJOR PROBLEM NOW 90 % or better. Make em work for water thru the roots not leaves

 

[smoke1sun]

I too suck at cloning.....But I have increase my rate by taking better care of my mother plants.
Straight coco low light and bottom heat. I got a long way to go but im getting there.

 

[pinkus]

Basically, you want them to start with a high humidity and decrease it, as has been mentioned forcing them to draw water up instead of depend on a humid atmosphere. MANY techs will accomplish this.

IF YOU LEAVE A DOME IN PLACE... you had better have been clean, bacteria and fungi WILL take over if they had an initial population. Bleach (or iodine) is much more effective than anything else for killing most organisms quickly and efficiently. BTW if you use alcohol to sterilize 70% is actually more effective at killing bacteria than 90%. (90% is still better for cleaning resin though). Peroxide is great when used correctly, but it does lose potency quickly (especially the higher % stuff)... a good and bad thing.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is rapid rooters can absorb more water than you want if you let them. I soak them in pHed (5.8) water with hygrozyme, then SQUEEZE THEM OUT. they will be set in the solution anyway and wick what they need. That way there is a gradient of soaked and low relative O2 at the bottom to moist with a high relative O2 concentration at the top.

 

[StoneyK]

few tricks ive learned for rockwool...
I make up my clonex water in a large bowl and let my cubes soak, then flick all the moisture out and let them go back in the bowl to fill again. do this 3 or 4 times.
I aslo pre poke the rockwool with my scissors before inserting my clone so the base is as undamaged as possible. quick dip in root tech an in they go.
I leave my dome on 24/7 with my slits both half open so I see humidity buildup on the sides of the dome but not the top. after I see the first signs of roots they go into dixie cups with coco to develop a mini rootball which I find transplants much better than a clone with tones of bare roots.
cubes should be moist but not wet.
you should be able to sqeeeze em a bit an not get drops of water, I flicknall the water out then just dip the lower 3rd of the cub for one second an I find its aboit perfect.
when I water I do the same a quick dip of the bottom 3rd only.
watering from the top has caused me issues stem rot....etc
I try not to sqeeze the rockwool since it breaks it down and compacts it flickin it in your hand works great an doesnt smash the rockwool.

 

[StoneyK]

these trays work great too. I swear they root faster an get roots all the way around the cube not just out the bottom. I swear by these trays makes things so easy too cubes done tip an roll around. I like to foilar feed rhizotonic 2 days after I take them as well.

These are some clones I took 2 days ago using my method...
proof is in the pudding I say

 

[StoneyK]

hope one or all of my tricks work for you guys.
im in cali so my temps are pretty moderate usually around 75 in the veg room.

 

[Jnugg]

hope one or all of my tricks work for you guys.
im in cali so my temps are pretty moderate usually around 75 in the veg room.

That's great and all but OP isn't using rockwool.

I personally stand by rapud rooter plugs as they are made from organic products and contain a natural rooting hormone.I never use cloning gels/dips/powders.

 

[StoneyK]

Its only a suggestion take it or leave it.
the op said he had horrible results I was only tryin to share whats works 98-100% of the time for me.
There are many ways to do this I thought maybe if the rapid rooters werent workin as well he might wanna try another option ya never know he might just have better luck with rockwool.
It seemed as though it was more of a general request for help cloning and he listed what he was using rather than a help me clone with rapid rooters thread. sorry if I misunderstood.
Just tryin to help.