I dont knwo if i trust LP's

[Canada]

I know there are a few companies that I can sign up with now but how are they going to have supply for me come April 1st?


I heard its something like 500 lbs /day they need to supply . If April is only 50 days away how can a company that's only been added to the list this last month or so be ready to supply in less then the time it takes to flower?


I seen an article the other day a company just got added to the list and had 10k plants ready ,,,,, Is this legal ?


Where does a company get 10k plants from the day they get approved .


Its my understanding that anyone can apply to become an Licensed Producer as long as you meet the qualifications.


So if I decided to go out and get a warehouse in an area of my city where I know council will approve of can I go a head and start 10k plants before I get my paper work in and get approved ...


Who are these people ?
Where do they get access to that many plants ?
How are they allowed to operate like this .
Are they organized crime ?
Or Are they officially attach or connect to organized crime?
Does health Canada have the answers as to where the 10k plants came from ,?
Does health Canada allow this they of conduct?


If they are breaking the law to launch on time can I trust the medicine they are producing for all of us ?


I have concern with this . Do You?

 

[growshopfrank]

I know there are a few companies that I can sign up with now but how are they going to have supply for me come April 1st?


I heard its something like 500 lbs /day they need to supply . If April is only 50 days away how can a company that's only been added to the list this last month or so be ready to supply in less then the time it takes to flower?


I seen an article the other day a company just got added to the list and had 10k plants ready ,,,,, Is this legal ?


Where does a company get 10k plants from the day they get approved .


Its my understanding that anyone can apply to become an Licensed Producer as long as you meet the qualifications.


So if I decided to go out and get a warehouse in an area of my city where I know council will approve of can I go a head and start 10k plants before I get my paper work in and get approved ...


Who are these people ?
Where do they get access to that many plants ?
How are they allowed to operate like this .
Are they organized crime ?
Or Are they officially attach or connect to organized crime?
Does health Canada have the answers as to where the 10k plants came from ,?
Does health Canada allow this they of conduct?


If they are breaking the law to launch on time can I trust the medicine they are producing for all of us ?


I have concern with this . Do You?

its been posted here that some LP's requested that their names not be on the list before they were up and running with product

be aware tho that once you register with a LP your right to produce your own is gone

 

[blastfrompast]

And no LP shopping with ur script, so if you choose the wrong one u will have to unregister(good luck with this), get a new script....re-register etc etc, at least that is what I was told

 

[Buds Bundy]

And no LP shopping with ur script, so if you choose the wrong one u will have to unregister(good luck with this), get a new script....re-register etc etc, at least that is what I was told

WTF?

 

[leaffan]

That's correct. When you sign up with an LP, you enter an annual supply agreement of sorts. If you want to change your LP, then you have to go back to the doctor and get another document form filled out, and the first one with the first LP becomes void.

One thing I find disturbing is that I've heard the LPs are pushing potential applicants to send in their ATPs vs the new doctor document.
I strongly suggest if you're going to deal with an LP, hold onto you ATP (pink slip) and get your doc to fill out a new document.

 

[vapor]

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[TheBlackman]

That's correct. When you sign up with an LP, you enter an annual supply agreement of sorts. If you want to change your LP, then you have to go back to the doctor and get another document form filled out, and the first one with the first LP becomes void.

One thing I find disturbing is that I've heard the LPs are pushing potential applicants to send in their ATPs vs the new doctor document.
I strongly suggest if you're going to deal with an LP, hold onto you ATP (pink slip) and get your doc to fill out a new document.

yo
ya'll be jumpin' thru them hoops,
I ain't talkin' the full court press,

they done gots you in a corner,
lord o lord what a mess,

I be feelin' ya'll pain when it comes to this here game,
seems the government ain't carin' too much for your needs,

it seems they tend to bleeds the very folks they say,
they been helpin' since the first day,

If'in it be me in this here lurch,
I'd be turn my spare room into a church,

a church of the kind so pay me no mind,
if'in the government has their way, I be takin' it in the behind,
an made to pay!

 

[Pangea]

and the first one with the first LP becomes void.

I do not believe this is so, multiple med docs are possible. One to treat anxiety, the other for pain, same person, two med docs, two LP's. I'll look for the specifics and post em later.

 

[leaffan]

please do Pangea...it's been awhile since I read it.
btw, thanks for all the great posts you've been making lately.

 

[Pangea]

I just did a quick skim and came up nothing, its been awhile for me as well. Perhaps its one of those issues where there is nothing specifically from preventing it?

Thanks. Just spreading the good word from others, copy pasta!

 

[Buddha1]

And no LP shopping with ur script, so if you choose the wrong one u will have to unregister(good luck with this), get a new script....re-register etc etc, at least that is what I was told

I'm fairly confidant that this is correct, except clients don't have to UNREGISTER, that is done automatically when u change to another LP.

I'm sure that I read in the regs...A patient is only allowed to be a client with one LP at a time. If the client wants to move to another LP, he/she gets new paper work or prescription(what ever they are calling it) from the Doc, then submits the application to the new LP. As soon as he/she is with a new LP, the old paper work becomes VOID.

Just the same way, the ATP becomes VOID(Automatically), as soon as you enter into agreement with any LP.

Peace...B

 

[blastfrompast]

Budda:

You nailed it I believe.

 

[leaffan]

I'm fairly confidant that this is correct, except clients don't have to UNREGISTER, that is done automatically when u change to another LP.

I'm sure that I read in the regs...A patient is only allowed to be a client with one LP at a time. If the client wants to move to another LP, he/she gets new paper work or prescription(what ever they are calling it) from the Doc, then submits the application to the new LP. As soon as he/she is with a new LP, the old paper work becomes VOID.

Just the same way, the ATP becomes VOID(Automatically), as soon as you enter into agreement with any LP.

Peace...B

How does the first LP know that you have switched to another LP?
How does the new LP know that you were registered with a previous LP?

 

[BredForMeds]

just like a prescription I thought.. u had to register with an LP.. and then it went into the database. and works like that no?

or atleast that's how id do it..


only way to have more then 1...
maybe get a few family members who look like u . and are living out of state.. get a Colorado id. and go to a doctor?

but if caught u get fucked no?

 

[Pangea]

There is no large database or sharing of register users unless specifically requested info from the health minister about a person.

I found the reference, booya:
http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2013/2013-06-19/html/sor-dors119-eng.php

Obtaining a supply of dried marihuana
To obtain dried marihuana for medical purposes, an individual will see an authorized health care practitioner and obtain a medical document, requirements for which are specified in the MMPR, signifying the health care practitioner’s support for their access to marihuana and indicating, among other things, the supported daily quantity in grams. Individuals can then send the original medical document to a licensed producer of their choice. A medical document will allow an individual to register with a licensed producer for the period of use indicated by the authorized health care practitioner, but for no more than one year. After registering as a client, individuals will be able to order dried marihuana from the licensed producer. However, licensed producers will not be allowed to sell or provide more than 30 times the daily amount in any 30-day period, taking into consideration the expected length of time for the shipment to reach the registered client, nor will they be able to ship more than 150 g at a time. Health Canada will publish the name and contact information of each licensed producer on its Web site to help individuals select a supplier. If an individual wishes to purchase a variety of strains that are not all available from one licensed producer, the MMPR will permit the individual to do so by obtaining a new medical document. They will have to discuss this with their health care practitioner. The health care practitioner will have to divide the daily quantity between multiple medical documents.

A registration will not be transferable from one licensed producer to another. If an individual wants to change licensed producers, they will be required to obtain a new original medical document which they will use to register with another licensed producer. This is consistent with practices for prescription narcotics, as these are not transferable from pharmacy to pharmacy. The CDSA requires individuals seeking or obtaining an authorization to obtain a controlled substance from a practitioner to disclose to the practitioner the particulars of any controlled substance they obtained or any authorization to obtain any controlled substance that they received in the 30 previous days.

No need to transfer from one to another as your doc can write multiples.

This is a main factor in my belief of an easier, cheaper access to medical documents. Every single patient should requested a minimum of 2 medical documents between what ever daily limit they have even if its 1 gram per day, split into two .5/day, if I had 5g/day I'd want a 3 or 5 separate docs to try out the different sources. Docs should charge $50 - $100 bucks per document. 5 - two gram documents for $300 deals!

 

[TheDonkey]

There is no large database or sharing of register users unless specifically requested info from the health minister about a person.

I found the reference, booya:
http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2013/2013-06-19/html/sor-dors119-eng.php



No need to transfer from one to another as your doc can write multiples.

This is a main factor in my belief of an easier, cheaper access to medical documents. Every single patient should requested a minimum of 2 medical documents between what ever daily limit they have even if its 1 gram per day, split into two .5/day, if I had 5g/day I'd want a 3 or 5 separate docs to try out the different sources. Docs should charge $50 - $100 bucks per document. 5 - two gram documents for $300 deals!

Any charge for the script is unacceptable. Why would you charge for a medicinal cannabis script while all other scripts don't incur any surcharge?

 

[leaffan]

Thanks for clearing that up Pangea

 

[tomjonesthe3rd]

So much misinformation. Good job Pangea. You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink

 

[Pangea]

Any charge for the script is unacceptable. Why would you charge for a medicinal cannabis script while all other scripts don't incur any surcharge?

Nearly all doctors charge fee's for filling out standard forms, that fee usually ranges from $30 - $100 depending on the doctor and the form.

I do not agree with doctors being the gatekeeper, but if they are acting as an honorable gatekeeper and allowing passage to those in need, I would say fair compensation in order for them.

Gotta reiterate, anyone that is getting a medical document or knows someone who is, PUSH HARD for multiple docs for the same price!

 

[TheDonkey]

Nearly all doctors charge fee's for filling out standard forms, that fee usually ranges from $30 - $100 depending on the doctor and the form.

I do not agree with doctors being the gatekeeper, but if they are acting as an honorable gatekeeper and allowing passage to those in need, I would say fair compensation in order for them.

Gotta reiterate, anyone that is getting a medical document or knows someone who is, PUSH HARD for multiple docs for the same price!

Forms yes prescriptions no.
That's a mighty big brush you are stroking with sir.