MMPR- meet the players

[vapor]

^^^ lol

 

[Buds Bundy]

^^^ lol

I guess he hasn't looked at who actually owns the places?

 

[hvac guy]

Tweed is a joke, I had lunch with Chuckee last year, he's completely clueless, thinks he's going to get 100 million in revenue in the first year, that's 10,000 patients giving them $10,000 each in a year, dream on Chuckee lmfao.

 

[bigbag]

so are there, or is there going to be any groups offering top shelf, cleaner than clean medicine for a reasonable price point ? seemingly not an easy proposition, esp in an industry riddled with jokers

 

[Pangea]

wut? This makes no sense. Organized crime because their prices are high and they produce a small amount of allegedly 'high end' flowers? Laundered? The amount of criminal background checks, etc, for an LP are ridiculous. If you think anyone with ANY connections to organized crime could get through the MMPR permitting process, you haven't read it.

They do security checks on the directors of the corp and the RPIC, SPIC on the license. If criminals wanted to access the program its is beyond simple.

Corps are owned by share holders, not directors or managers.

Share holders are not under any special scrutiny, get a few patsies with clean names to start and operate the corp and your set.

Do you really think org crime is only or primarily based in the black market? Some of the biggest corps and businesses are controlled, owned and operated by organized crime members.

coff..SCN Laval..coff

 

[fatburt]

both of you are little fuckin kids!arguing back and forth...real mature.....and you both think that your shit smells like roses...do you really think you are doing something special...both of you?who fucking cares!really....

without you both,the pot community would not miss one single step,,,,not one.
shit,i would bet any of my "homemade" outy strains could hold up or surpass any outdoor strain you both have,i have a wifi x arnes cheese x gg#2 that i would put against both of you any day of the week!
and chimera goes out of his way to talk down to people....im not a scientist,dont even consider myself that smart...i just love to grow....no need to talk to people that way,instead shoe some humility and kindly teach them instead of mocking and putting them down!people and their god damned egos!its gross!its the worst thing about a human being....it is an ability to believe something about yourself that just isnt true....

all i know,is chimera talked to me like that to my face hed be on the floor very quickly!and hed learn respect the hard way!

Classic "med"man. Absolutely zero basis in reality, yet you try to cast aspersions about my character. I let your mis-characterizations fly over and over because it's a waste of my time to correct the garbage in every one of your posts, but at some point one has to stand up and call bullshit on the nonsense you perpetually spew.

When I sat down with VP and your boss and you tagged along, did I charge a single cent? My advice telling you to ditch the laughable name 'Kind Canna Collective' was 100% gratis. Do you know a single person I've charged a penny to for any consulting service? No, you don't; you are just spouting red-herrings with no basis in fact.

I've done literally countless hours of pro bono/ canna-charity work in countries all over the world. I've designed breeding programs (gratis) for breeders / competitors working CBD lines , donated excellent production clones to personal medical growers and DGs who supply hundreds of lbs to dispensaries all across the country. Why? Because I thought the patients deserved better than the shwagg they were offering. I only want to help further the species, and help the sick people that benefit from this wonderful plant and I've been doing exactly that since you, youngbuck, were in pre-school.

I don't speak of these actions and achievements because I don't need your idolatry, I don't need your kudos, I don't need you to know just how cool the things we're doing actually are, because I know how cool they are already... I'm not going to tip my hand to you or anyone for an ego boost. I know, because I know what's going on in Canada and elsewhere around the world, that we are doing things and growing on a scale you can't even begin to imagine.

Still on about the grapefruit? hahaha. Do you really think it's possible that we haven't already collected, cataloged, characterized almost every single flavor/terpene class that exists in canna? I;ve got every single terp class you have in your stable, guaranteed, and many many more. Do you think its possible that I haven't collected and or bred lines with every possible cannabinoid profile/combination from within the species, while you've been putting on your silly 'look at me' cool guy costume, running around to trade shows like a used car salesman telling the world how great you are, all the while patting yourself on the back?

Keep your self indulgent, self-promotional nonsense out of this thread, you've got plenty of space for that kind of garbage in your sub forum, and nobody wants to read your narcissistic musings here when they are trying to learn about the new groups operating under the MMPR.

 

[northernkush]

Do you think that any of that helped? You just bashed them for giving their opinions.....and you did thr exact same....


Bravo....

 

[Pangea]

Governments defense to the constitutional challenge

PDF:
http://drugsense.org/temp/StatementXofXDefence.pdf

HC has bought a stock pile of PPS crap in case of shortfalls, though they expect 12 more LP`s to be registered by March 31.

 

[mack 10]

Wish the UK would implement something, we have no medical thing at all. Only very connected people/Company's can get acess to the licence which comes straight from the home office. Only GW pharma has a licence as far as I know?

also I heard that 85% of all the weed Harbourside sold last year had some fungal or pesticide contamination! getting 100% clean meds seems harder than you would think.

 

[Bmac1]

Too many people forget that while there are some very compassionate people involved, dispensaries and such are profit driven entities. When you want/need help you want to believe that people genuinely want to help you while a good bunch of them only want to help you part with your money. The only way to know for certain is to do it yourself.

 

[fatburt]

no,i bashed them because they should act more like adults and stop arguing back and forth...."you dont know shit"..."know you dont".....

my point was that its all egos,they come before anything.....

 

[guitar guy]

Interesting readhttp://http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Medical+marijuana+poses+problems+Metro+Vancouver/9515031/story.html

More potential loops to jump through or need to relocate for new accepted MMPR aplicants.

 

[guitar guy]

Interesting readhttp://http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Medical+marijuana+poses+problems+Metro+Vancouver/9515031/story.html

More potential loops to jump through or need to relocate for new accepted MMPR aplicants.

Link retry.. http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Medical+marijuana+poses+problems+Metro+Vancouver/9515031/story.html

 

[guitar guy]

Funniest quote from above article. LOL

“So that we have some idea where they’re located, that they’re not sitting next to maybe ... a bakery or something that would not be a good location,” said Delta Mayor Lois Jackson.

LOL.. Delta Mayor Lois Jackson... how do people this stupid get elected???

 

[bigbag]

well, Medijean seems to be " setting the bar ", just ask them

 

[TheBlackman]

http://www.vancouversun.com/busines...s+problems+Metro+Vancouver/9515031/story.html

yo
be lookin' like Mr Peter Martin be gettin' in the flow of quality control,
dude be lookin' ripped in that picture.

well, Medijean seems to be " setting the bar ", just ask them

that be this dude sayin' such

'Terry Crowe, manager of policy planning for the City of Richmond.'

MediJean’s rezoning application will come before council sometime in the coming weeks, and at that time council will decide whether or not to change their policy, Crowe said.


“They will set the bar.”

 

[vapor]

Funniest quote from above article. LOL

“So that we have some idea where they’re located, that they’re not sitting next to maybe ... a bakery or something that would not be a good location,” said Delta Mayor Lois Jackson.

LOL.. Delta Mayor Lois Jackson... how do people this stupid get elected???

cause the young folks think the system is broken and there vote dont do shit , so they dont vote. Have this convo almost daily it seems///

 

[bigbag]

do you think Crowe came up with that himself ? he's obviously privy to their re-zoning application before council...
wish them all the best regardless

 

[Pangea]

$100 million for Tweed.

$5 billion for CEN

http://www.businessinsider.in/This-...ear-From-Selling-Pot/articleshow/30573195.cms

ugly copy and paste:

This Public Company Has A Plan To Make $5 Billion A Year From Selling Pot


Julie Bort Feb 17, 2014, 07.26 PM


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Creative Edge
Creative Edge CEO Bill Chaaban


Creative Edge Nutrition, a Michigan-based nutritional supplements company, has come up with an interesting plan to legally sell pot on a large scale.

The company believes it could generate as much as $5 billion a year at more than 80% profit by selling medical pot in Canada.

Creative Edge launched a Canadian subsidiary, called CEN Biotech, and hopes to grow medical marijuana in that country, up to 1.3 million pounds annually.

"1.3 million pounds equates to about $5 billion a year - you're looking at $8 gram - at 80-87% profit," CEO Bill Chaaban told Business Insider.

That would be a pretty big feat for Creative Edge Nutrition, which is trading for about 9 cents right now. Creative Edge is an "over-the-counter"/Pink Sheets stock, meaning it's a high-risk stock not traded on a stock exchange.

Creative Edge's application to grow pot in Canada hasn't yet been approved, Chaaban acknowledges. And it's competing with several hundred applicants, industry site Marijuana Index reports.

But he shared these details could the company get the nod:
Canada changed its medical marijuana model into something called "super growers" where companies grow pot under strict pharmaceutical regulation and sell it directly to consumers. There will be no dispensaries. As of April 1, people will no longer be allowed to grow their own pot, reports the Vancouver Sun.
Creative Edge plans to sink $12 million into building a facility that can grow a huge amount of pot.
The $12 million is coming from a company called GrowLife that makes marijuana growing equipment and is financing the facility in exchange for a 25% stake, Chaaban says.
Venture capital investment wasn't a good option. VCs willing to invest in pot ventures want to take "upwards of 70%" equity, Chaaban says.
This plan works in part because, Creative Edge, the parent company, is located physically close to Canada in Madison Heights, Mich., a suburb of Detroit. The site for the Canadian facility is in Lakeshore, Ontario, right across the border from Detroit.
CEN Biotech says it could even be possible to sell its pot internationally, to 29 countries that have pharmaceutical trade agreements with Canada and view marijuana as a legal narcotic. Israel is one of the biggest of those markets.
Obviously, the legal marijuana industry is young and full of risk. But here's a look into the reason why this CEO is eager to take on that risk.

Business Insider: Tell me how this idea began.

Bill Chaaban: We started in the nutrition supplement business, launched a brand called Cenergy and over the years acquired some e-commerce sites that sell just about every brand of sports and dietary supplements.

About a year and a half ago, we decided we wanted to get into medical marijuana. I canvassed the regulatory landscape and I found it was too risky for a public company to grow and sell medical marijuana.

Then an opportunity presented itself in Canada.

BI: Can you tell me more about the Canadian marijuana model?

BC: The Canadian medical marijuana program is run by Health Canada which is like Canada's FDA. They are changing their system in Canada to license large super growers to supply the whole market. You grow it and sell it directly to the patient, there would be no dispensaries.

BI: Does that mean that there will only be a few companies supplying all of Canada?

BC: There's no limit on the number of companies they are going to license, however getting a license is very difficult. A lot of cities in Canada don't want commercial growers in their cities and you have to have the local police and fire approval.

Our license, that we applied for, is for import/export and sale of medical marijuana and we applied to grow and sell 1.3 million pounds per calendar year.

BI: Without dispensaries how will this work?

BC: Once you become a licensed producer, you'll be put on the Health Canada website. As of April 1, Canada won't require a card. You go to your health care provider - a physician, a physician's assistant, a nurse practitioner, a dentist - anyone able to prescribe a narcotic - and they write a prescription.

You send the prescription into a licensed producer and you pay the producer directly. It's shipped to your home via courier ... everything is shipped with a secured carrier with chain of custody.

In Colorado, there's a growing industry of "edibles," food and drinks that includes pot. Is that happening in Canada?

No. Not at all. It's basically just the bud, not edibles.

What are your plans to sell marijuana in the U.S. market?

We've hired lobbyists in Michigan to support some bills in Michigan, like Bill 660, which actually reflects the Canadian market slightly, where Michigan is calling for super growth authorities ... also Michigan wants medical marijuana to only be dispensed in a pharmacy.

Those bills have passed and we've already found locations in Michigan and we're in talks with Michigan legislature. We're just waiting for [a change in] federal law.

You mention import/export. What other countries are involved and how?

Under the U.N. convention of control of narcotics, there's 29 countries that view medical marijuana as a narcotic. So every single one of those countries will be a market we're going to try to sell to because we'll be backed by the Canadian government.

[For instance,] Israel and Canada have a free trade agreement and over the last 25 years, Israel and Canada have been supplying each other's populations with medicine.

Health Canada also allows importation. We'll be able to import seeds from any of those countries where growing medical marijuana is allowed: Netherlands, Columbia, Mexico, Israel and other countries.

What costs are involved?

Our investment in our [Canadian growing] facility. It will cost $12 million to build it. And we're keeping a $4 million war chest for operations, lobbying, etc.

Taxes will be remitted to Canada. It can be taxed from 5%-13%, depending on the Province.

We'll be growing the marijuana in a sterile environment, using the standards as if we were manufacturing drugs. Any employee comes to work has their temperature measured. If they are ill, they are not allowed into the facility. People wear scrubs, hair nets, uniformed. You have to have third-party lab testing.

What kind of revenue and profits do you expect to make?

1.3 million pounds equates to about $5 billion a year. You're looking at $8 gram. You're selling by the gram at retail level.

Wholesale will be by the pound, but majority of sales will be retail. Profit margin: 80-87 percent profit.

Will it be as lucrative in the U.S. as it will in Canada?

That depends on the model. Obviously, if you are growing at scale, the costs come down. The largest players are going to stand out and be more profitable than the smaller players.

How did you raise the money you needed?

We entered into a collaborative partnership with a company called GrowLife and sold them 25% of our revenue stream. They are funding our operations, providing financing and equipment. They are in the picks and shovels part of the business. They sell lighting and equipment to other growers.

It's very hard to get bank financing and it's hard to get VC financing. You can get it from them, but the problem with VCs is that they are all looking at having way too much equity. They wanted upwards of 70%.

 

[Buds Bundy]

Lol $5 Billion from the med market at $8 per gram. or $224 per OZ? Holly fuck I need a job where I can pull predictions out of my ass all day log.

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That's all these companies talk about. Import/Export.


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[/FONT] BC: Once you become a licensed producer, you'll be put on the Health Canada website. As of April 1, Canada won't require a card. You go to your health care provider - a physician, a physician's assistant, a nurse practitioner, a dentist - anyone able to prescribe a narcotic - and they write a prescription.

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Wow I sure hope he did some research of how freely docs sign paper work LOL. Has he no concept of recreational users where they want it and want it now not wait a few days for delivery.

Well folks you want to beat the system now is the time for organic pesticide free growing. With the prices for legal stuff its wont be hard to beat them at their own game.

Canadian GOV needs to legalize fast so that the money stays in Canada and not exported out to foreign companies.