The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[Backyard Farmer]

No part of the process is evacuating oxygen to replace with nitrogen , you can dial in how much vacuum you want to pull and how much gas you want to inject in the bag. Different strains take different settings so you don't crush it like you're worried about.

 

[Randy Lahey]

Probably a nitrogen sealer would be better. That's how important documents are kept in the Library of Congress and Smithsonian.

Probably why "THEY" do that...haha

 

[plastochron]

I used them this year and I must say they do the trick. My herb has stayed fresh and moist, which is a problem I have had in the past. No refrigeration. However they did cost a fair amount, that's just another 5-10$ per lb you have to spend. It is worth it for me personally, but if your working with 10's or 100's of packs, it probably isn't worth it.

OB,

which bovedas are you using and how long do you leave them in for? i've used them a few times and i feel like they leave a swampy off odor after everything is rehydrated.

 

[OrganicBuds]

OB,

which bovedas are you using and how long do you leave them in for? i've used them a few times and i feel like they leave a swampy off odor after everything is rehydrated.

62% large packs. I am not trying to re-hydrate my herb. When harvesting I slowly brought my RH down to 62%, then once dialed in, I placed a Boveda pack to maintain RH. I haven't noticed a funny smell to anything, and I was digging around in jars just the other day.

 

[milkyjoe]

Can you imagine the work that went into that...holy shit.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

Drying space is pretty key. One of the issues I run in to is needing to be on a schedule to get everything in...

If I get my shit together maybe this year can be different.

 

[anonymousgrow]

The little outdoor we still have left is hanging out in open turkey bags and food grade buckets In a dark room that stays at 55f and 60-61% rh. So far nothing but improvements have come with this cure. I suspect that at some point the buds start to get worse rather than better. But they will be gone before then.

 

[Cep]

^^^I've had dreams of having a root cellar where I could overwinter most of my food, but I'd probably end up filling it with weed.

 

[odkin]

There are many big plant guys here who don't need this- but for any aspiring big plant boys- Jon Frank from Ag Labs is starting a new round of 30 emails in 30 days. This time its on smaller gardens. Last set was on building soil.

Very good information that is emailed to you daily. I learned much from the last round, and am looking forwards to this next round. Believe this is the link for signing up- http://www.aglabs.com/newsletter-signup.html.

It's free, and worth the read.

 

[bamboogardner]

Hey Guys. Any advantage or disadvantage to putting 200 gal smarties into the ground either half way or all the way? I would do mounds/trenches, but when I figured the cost of the backhoe and soil, I almost had a cardiac. The cost to fill 20 of the 200's was steep enough.

Thanks,

 

[Backyard Farmer]

There is no point in doing that. Just grow your mounds over time. Mine didn't start out at 5 yards but over time, they got that big

 

[Hash Man]

Are you all lining the bottoms of your mounds with gopher wire or just using root ball cages?

 

[cannascholar]

Just purchased some of those 1 yard totes that come on pallets that can be used as smart pots.. Has anyone done this? They definitely dont seem as breathable but everyone I've asked says it works good.

Went with Mendo mix ($125 a tote/yrd)/, used it before had some nice 2lb trees with it. Normally I would've opted for higher quality to avoid bugs and hasty uncomposted hot soil but these were ideal since they sat indoors for a year. Either going with straight Vermifire, vermi/coco for dep or amending last yrs promix. Really loving the vermi, even better than earth worm soil factory.

Going for 5lbers this year. Hopefully the pesticide stress they recieved as teens will still allow them to do so. About half my seeds will consist of Peyote purple, the rest assorted Ganjarebel, assorted Kens gear, some wcsdxnycd, and a few freebies. Really considering pulling the trigger on Rare d gear, Harborside stocks it and for seeds its pretty damn decent.

Nutes will probably either be Botanicare PBP, General Organics, or Biobizz. A fuckton of pure protein dry, calcium 25, Og biowar, nematodes, and broad mite predators.

Love the Biobizz however it's the most pricey and will clog drippers. Not much experience with GO but its cheap. Never ran the Pure Blend Pro but a buddy's soil tests after running it showed more micro life in it than the GO, Biobizz the most. It also had the best taste.

 

[theJointedOne]

Are you all lining the bottoms of your mounds with gopher wire or just using root ball cages?

I am a fan of the root ball cage protectors. Some buddies of mine said they weren't necessary, but then later in the summer they had issues.

Also lined up the dep beds with it as well. They make some pretty easy to work with affordable stuff, that seems foolish not to use tbh.

 

[Cep]

I didn't think they were necessary my first year, but last year I lost 6 to gophers. You guys might think this is messed up but I think I actually ate the gopher that did the damage

TJO, what are the dimensions of your root ball cages? I wonder what diameter of root actually attracts the attention of critters.

 

[theJointedOne]

I didn't think they were necessary my first year, but last year I lost 6 to gophers. You guys might think this is messed up but I think I actually ate the gopher that did the damage

TJO, what are the dimensions of your root ball cages? I wonder what diameter of root actually attracts the attention of critters.

Im not sure the exact dimensions Cep, if i had to guess Id say it was the same shape as a 15 gallon smart pot, maybe a tad smaller.

I will say for anyone using them that its important to not veg in a huge container, only to find you wont be able to fit the mass you created into the root ball cage wen it is time to transplant. The cages come in different sizes, although my local shop just carried these ones. I googled it and theres a bunch of diff people who make custom sizes ect, probably wouldnt be too much work to make your own..

 

[Backyard Farmer]

I keep stuff wet enough they don't want to play. Seen one mound where he went in one side out the other and said no thanks to staying.

Plant was all good. This year it's dry as fuck so things like gophers are going to be attracted to what growing plants are around...so some precautions may be necessary.

Canna, if you want big trees, don't grow bubba Kush(peyote purp) as half your stuff

 

[Hash Man]

Gopher protection is eeded for sure. I have used the rootball cages before and noticed the gophers stll ate all the root outside the cage. I think this year i am going to line the bottom of my mounds withwire, use a rootball cage and also linethe top of the soil before i apply straw mulch. There has to be a yield loss when the gophers eat the root outside the root cages.

 

[Classic Seeds]

I have used my dogs poop with great results you just dig up the golpher hole and put the crap in it they move after a time or two of that .sonic sensors that shoot waves into the ground work great to but you have to buy a industrial unit to get any good affects those 10 dollar solar ones are a joke.also oil of clove on cotton balls drives them out and I have been tolf spearmint does the same but castor plants stop them dead if you can surround your grow with castor oil bean plants they will not dig into castor roots but remember they are a poison and the beans or vegetation can kill your pets if they chew it up or if you have rabbits aloha cls

 

[OgRastaman]

I cant wait to gorw some of this GG#4 outside I think its going to get huge!!!