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First Timer: 12 Light Coco Multi-feed
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my guess is he took those specific cuts from an unhealthy mother. certain strains are really finicky about mother health being on point, i have one. they just dud out, can only take low ppm nutes so they burn getting the normal feed... and then they never frost up. they dud.
maybe even an unhealthy bottom branch from a huge mother that was cloned.
maybe even an unhealthy bottom branch from a huge mother that was cloned.
Those resemble re-vegged plants, if you've ever seen them. However, I have run that strain, it's one of my favorites. Those are not hermied. It looks like a pest problem. First thing that comes to mind is broad mites, but they don't have the twisted leaves that BM plants typically have, therefore I would look for Hemp Russett Mites. You will need a scope, 100X. I would quarantine those plants until you figure it out.
Can you get more pictures of more of the plant?
How are the rest of the girls in the room getting on?
Have you checked the seed plants for male flowers, especially the lowest bud sites?
If you can get more pictures get them with some white light and from a fresher looking part of the plant.
How are the rest of the girls in the room getting on?
Have you checked the seed plants for male flowers, especially the lowest bud sites?
If you can get more pictures get them with some white light and from a fresher looking part of the plant.
I'll go back over to my friend's place and try to get more pictures.
Retro - from what you said, that sounds accurate. I looked up some pictures of the damage those things cause and it looks similar. Seems to me if plants were herming in his room, the pollen would have affected all the strains. With a pest though, they could conceivably be jus targeting the weakest of the genetics and going to town.
Dans - thanks for the suggestion. That was one of my first questions to him, but again, if that were the case I think all the strains in the room would be experiencing problems and they aren't. All but one strain looks perfect! For that reason, I think it might be a pest problem that Retro suggested.
Retro - from what you said, that sounds accurate. I looked up some pictures of the damage those things cause and it looks similar. Seems to me if plants were herming in his room, the pollen would have affected all the strains. With a pest though, they could conceivably be jus targeting the weakest of the genetics and going to town.
Dans - thanks for the suggestion. That was one of my first questions to him, but again, if that were the case I think all the strains in the room would be experiencing problems and they aren't. All but one strain looks perfect! For that reason, I think it might be a pest problem that Retro suggested.
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If those plants aren`t hermied , where`d all the immature seeds come from in the last under developed nug pic....Plants can spit nanners , pollinate said plant , fall on the ground/floor , and shrivel up completely un-noticed all in the course of 1 light cycle....
Had some Chem D`s do it from an unhealthy plant the cuts were taken from that were showing "mosaic virus" variegation , and once the early flowers got jizzed , they stopped growth dead in their tracks and "tried" to bear seed from their "survival mechanism" to proliferate the species as in out in the wild conditions , but I`ve been wrong before......also...
Sativa`s are especially susceptible to asexual behavior like that plant IC , and it don`t take much to trigger it , but hopefully it`s not any rootborn mites or aphids....
I never had experience with mites in my grow areas , but a 100 power scope`ll letchas know immediately , and I agree they`ll attack the weakest of the bunch but why do all the other plants look perfect.....things that make you go hmmm....anyways....
I hope I`m right and it`s not mites or any other critter , so let us know Bro.....I would`ve responded sooner but the snow knocked my internet out.....anyways....
Peace....DHF....
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Had some Chem D`s do it from an unhealthy plant the cuts were taken from that were showing "mosaic virus" variegation , and once the early flowers got jizzed , they stopped growth dead in their tracks and "tried" to bear seed from their "survival mechanism" to proliferate the species as in out in the wild conditions , but I`ve been wrong before......also...
Sativa`s are especially susceptible to asexual behavior like that plant IC , and it don`t take much to trigger it , but hopefully it`s not any rootborn mites or aphids....
I never had experience with mites in my grow areas , but a 100 power scope`ll letchas know immediately , and I agree they`ll attack the weakest of the bunch but why do all the other plants look perfect.....things that make you go hmmm....anyways....
I hope I`m right and it`s not mites or any other critter , so let us know Bro.....I would`ve responded sooner but the snow knocked my internet out.....anyways....
Peace....DHF....
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Thanks for the info DHF, I'll pass it onto him. I think in this situation, a pest might be better because at least you can combat it... Not much you can do if things are herming right? I've never experienced herms before so I have no info to give him on that topic, unfortunately.
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There`s definitely a "stressor" involved , be it pests , environmental , or genetically as my probs came from , so it`s all good since he`s finding out that 1 strain outta 5 aren`t keepers and need to be replaced in the production line...IF that`s the problem...after all.....
It`s all about the rotations and the bottom line......My thing was always to give each variety it`s own smaller room monocropped with everything perfect environment and watts per sq ft wise , and then if shit went south , it could only be genetics.....anyways....
Hope He doesn`t lose too much percentage of Harvey if they keep spittin nanners and shuttin down , IF that`s what the "stressor" is......Not sure I agree with hopin it`s critters , lol......but at least that`s "finite" and explains shit so proper measures can be taken huh........regardless...
Wishin for the best and.......
Good luck...DHF....
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Are you talking about the pic on the previous page? Because that's the first thing I was thinking - that those buds have the look of impregnated flowers and seeded calyxes, which is the last thing you want to see because if they are, and especially if they're top buds, you can guarantee more plants in the room will be fertilised..
But if they're only 3 weeks in bloom it doesn't make sense for them to look like that.. That kind of development usually comes much later on.
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I agree Papa , but if those aren`t under developed seeds in that last pic , then I`m blind.....maybe how long into flower could be wrong ?.....or....
Those plants could`ve triggered before the flip with a "stressor" , and that would explain things too , but.....dunno.....I just hope it`s not critter issues.....anyways....
Peace....DHF....
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Hey IC Bro......No worries bout mom plants in constant veg getting pollinated unless there was a timer malfunction and they ALL got flipped unbeknownst , but...seems like all the other plants would be wonky as well.....
The Haze mom needs gone over with a fine tooth comb head to toe to try and find the reason for the flowering cuts dilemma , be it environmental , genetic , pests , whatever....and....
The whole room needs checked with a scope for critters as well , but why those plants spit nanners and self-pollinated , and bore seed(non-viable seed) that fast in only 3 weeks time is a mystery as well....
It only makes sense that they triggered themselves sooner than the rest of the plants being formally flipped , or again the possibility of another unknown "X" factor exists , and X can be anything......
Let us know the outcome IC OVO....
Peace....DHF.........
The Haze mom needs gone over with a fine tooth comb head to toe to try and find the reason for the flowering cuts dilemma , be it environmental , genetic , pests , whatever....and....
The whole room needs checked with a scope for critters as well , but why those plants spit nanners and self-pollinated , and bore seed(non-viable seed) that fast in only 3 weeks time is a mystery as well....
It only makes sense that they triggered themselves sooner than the rest of the plants being formally flipped , or again the possibility of another unknown "X" factor exists , and X can be anything......
Let us know the outcome IC OVO....
Peace....DHF.....
....Reason I said what I said is because it usually takes a couple of weeks for male flowers to form, open, and drop pollen... then you'd notice die back of the pistils... that'd be the first sign of trouble. Then you'd see the buds forming differently, and finally after about 5 weeks you'd see them taking on that look where you can tell there are seeds forming inside. Like DHF says though, maybe it could be early.
The only thing making it hard to say for definite is the brown burned look of the buds.
Definitely get some more pictures of more of that plant if you can, and under a good light. Some healthy parts too. And get some random pics of buds from other plants in the room.
The only thing making it hard to say for definite is the brown burned look of the buds.
Definitely get some more pictures of more of that plant if you can, and under a good light. Some healthy parts too. And get some random pics of buds from other plants in the room.
Caravaggio
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I grow pretty massive plants in just 6l pots. Try downsizing your pots, watering more often and for gods sake ditch the perlite FOREVER. Coco is perfect is it is.
Gonna haveta disagree on that one. Perlite + Coco = Good.
Too much perlite = bad. I'm using 80% perlite right now, and do agree that its probably a little much.... I'm watering 8x per day dtw right now.
Also on the pot size, sure you can grow pretty big plants in 6L pots.... You can grow bigger plants in 20L pots
I'm sure at some point there are diminishing returns when it comes to pot size, but I know IC OVO likes to veg his plants big, so the bigger pot size isnt gonna hurt him.
In Hempy buckets, you can grow trees in a 2 gallon pot. Just sayin'.....
Even Hempy switched from perlite/vermiculite mix to 100% coco, with chunky perlite in the "rez" section of the bucket, for increased yield. Not looking for an argument or bashing anyone's methods, just pointing it out in case you've never tried them.
Even Hempy switched from perlite/vermiculite mix to 100% coco, with chunky perlite in the "rez" section of the bucket, for increased yield. Not looking for an argument or bashing anyone's methods, just pointing it out in case you've never tried them.
cannascholar
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IC, tell your friend to ditch the haze, I had some herm on me bad it made for a seedy GHS experience. What it all comes down to is GHS is low quality compared to whats available in 2014.
Fuckin stoked on that Cadillac Purple. I picked up some at Harborside and besides the slow veg, love everything about her. Can't wait to see yours flowered out. Is her smell fairly intense right now?
Runnin any other Harborside/DHN cuts? Got some platinum bubba, platinum kush, chocolate hashberry, XXX,candyland and deep sleep I'd love to know more about.
Fuckin stoked on that Cadillac Purple. I picked up some at Harborside and besides the slow veg, love everything about her. Can't wait to see yours flowered out. Is her smell fairly intense right now?
Runnin any other Harborside/DHN cuts? Got some platinum bubba, platinum kush, chocolate hashberry, XXX,candyland and deep sleep I'd love to know more about.
Perlite is a crutch.
That is all.
That is all.
what would you put in the bottom of a hempy bucket ??? & yeah i know you've never used one , but i'm sure you know what they are & how they work . just curious as to what you'd use ? 
