Need help leaves are curling an not over fert

[The fat]

Hey guys having trouble now need some help.just moved to WA from the south east was using city water with ppm around 350 an did Great an now I'm in the country using well water with ppm from 100-170 an doesn't smell bad an my plants are shot they are curling down into a fist an starting to brown. It's happening in all 3 Rez veg an flowering. I keep the ph at 6.0-5.8 all the time. My veg ppm is at 450 an my flowering is at 650-750 for the first two week an then I bump it up gradually after that. I'm doing the same as before don't know what going on. Roots look great but the top is lacking. I think I need RO but not sure would love some advice.

Peace

 

[The fat]

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[Randy Lahey]

Post a pic so we can see what the problem looks like.

 

[The fat]

Can you see these

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[Randy Lahey]

Yeah I can see it... Honestly to me it looks like a root damage problem... but there is a chance your problem could be under watering your plants also.... :/

Have they suffered from any root breaking during a transplanting?

 

[Randy Lahey]

Also.... It could be a heat problem....forgot to mention that one...

Underwatering, Excessive HEAT and root damage ALL can end up causing similar effects looking like this...

 

[The fat]

I have hydro aqua mist system the max the temp is 79-80 the low is 65 at night and my root look great

 

[Coconutz]

Have you checked for broadmites?
Can you take pics without the lights on and host them full size?

 

[Randy Lahey]

Ahhh so your on Hydro.... Okay then make sure your water level does not "dry up" I had this same problem start on a DWC Grow of mine two years ago and it looked very similar.

I hope you can get this problem resolve tho quick enough. It sux to get you plants all the way to flowering and then start experiencing problems...

 

[The fat]

Yea I'm freaked out I think I need a RO mechine chause it's starting to happen in my little veg ones

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[Randy Lahey]

Oh noooo!! That's not cool at all dude... The good thing about having a "fuck up" with a hydro plant is, you can always still easily transplant them to a soil grow and they will show repair within about a week. Honestly, My Pictures of my "SouR - Mist" were originally in a DWC Grow then I made a error resulting in a slight Nitrogen Overdose it wasn't enough to hardly do much to it - just burnt the tips of a few leaves that would go in time anyway. So next month I changed the water and was gonna let her have 2 weeks of just fresh water but apparently "THEY" changed something in the water in this area cuz it started to turn my Stalks Purple and my leaves yellow from only fresh water....So I just said, "FUCK IT!" I'm putting her in soil and finishing her off!! And look how good she's doing now!!!

Growing Hydro is suuuuuuper picky sometimes...I still don't have it totally down yet.

Hey, is there any yellowing to your leaves also with this "Curling"?? Can't really tell with the picture by your lighting spectrum abounding...

 

[vapor]

^^^^ put a shirt on! phos toxic

 

[Randy Lahey]

Any luck yet fat? :/

 

[jammie]

i get leaf curl like that if my temps are too high, my humidity is too low or if dry warm air is blowing past a light onto a plant.

 

[northerngrafta]

By the looks of things your plants aren't feeding for some reason it's hard to figure out why with out talking through with you to figure out exactly where u went wrong but for now turn the lights down if you can or if you have a few lights turn some off while the plants come out of the stress lock if you don't do this you could loose the whole lot.......

If you got to this point without RO I very much doubt it's that it is more likely u had a temperature spike or you fed them too much food or something like this to cause a lock out. Firstly I would calibrate your meters to check it's not them as this would explain it effecting the veg plants as well ..........and in the meantime you need to foliar feed otherwise you may loose the plant as it's not feeding from the roots hence the wilting...
But most likely it looks like you over fed them I would flush out then return to food after a few days with a lower ppm than you were previously running
It's always good to give your roots a really really good inspection for root rot sometimes you can't always see it at first if it starts deep in the middle of a dense root ball, it shouldn't be but keep a good lookout is the best line of defence.

Hope this helps

 

[Randy Lahey]

By the looks of things your plants aren't feeding for some reason it's hard to figure out why with out talking through with you to figure out exactly where u went wrong but for now turn the lights down if you can or if you have a few lights turn some off while the plants come out of the stress lock if you don't do this you could loose the whole lot.......

If you got to this point without RO I very much doubt it's that it is more likely u had a temperature spike or you fed them too much food or something like this to cause a lock out. Firstly I would calibrate your meters to check it's not them as this would explain it effecting the veg plants as well ..........and in the meantime you need to foliar feed otherwise you may loose the plant as it's not feeding from the roots hence the wilting...
But most likely it looks like you over fed them I would flush out then return to food after a few days with a lower ppm than you were previously running
It's always good to give your roots a really really good inspection for root rot sometimes you can't always see it at first if it starts deep in the middle of a dense root ball, it shouldn't be but keep a good lookout is the best line of defence.

Hope this helps

Helpful post for him indeed sir! I feel pretty bad for the guy!

 

[terminalc]

Did you spray anything on these? Do you burn sulfur? Do you inject co2? Bad paint? PH way out of range? Pics of the crown and roots might be helpful, along with any info about your irrigation. You might try some botanigard to knock back a couple pests if you have them, or a hum tea.

 

[The fat]

Thanks for the help I don't think it was over fert because I never had the ppm over 800 in bloom and in veg I had it from 500-600 I flushed in flowering 2 day ago with lower ppm and I did it to night again with about the same ppm I'm hoping it helps. It might be the temp my veg was always the same but in flowering it goes between 64 at night an 79 during the day but I have had success in the past with high temps and the same plant. I keep thinking it's the well water. But I haven't seen a turn around yet.

 

[Randy Lahey]

64 to 79 is still WELL within acceptable for a plants heat tolerance tho... Is it 79 right at the tops of your plants or just 79 total in the grow area... That makes a WORLD of difference to distinguish...

I have spoke to your well water and asked it to provide health and growth and cleanliness for all it connects with! Hope it helps!