be careful bringing in clones!

[Microbeman]

Wanna buy some cheap?; http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Micoseed-MB-Fertilizer_135612578.html

This is interesting
http://www.biocontrol.entomology.cornell.edu/pathogens/Metarhizium.html

BTW saying Bacillus sp is kinda like saying bacteria.

Saying verticullum without genus is a little strange isn't it? http://urbanext.illinois.edu/focus/verticillium.cfm

 

[Wav3F0rm]

The most success we have had in years of gardening has been in having the dirtiest garden possible with a wide spectrum of organisms allowed entry. They keep each other at bay...most often. Not everyone's cup of tea I know.

this is what i'm talking about, and i have noticed the exact same thing, aanndd, was what more or less pushed me into organic ways. i was doing all this observation and studying on natural farming etc, and for whatever reason wasn't doing so with the MJ situation. had 'pest' and 'pest' and then finally listened to myself and was like wait... wait.. i know this issue.. there are no pests just imbalances.. bam, introduced as much as i could and let whatever else come, no more 'pests'.

 

[somerandom]

I would say the majority of people here are in less than perfect conditions. Don't you need at least 60% RH for these products to work properly ? I would like to try these but the RH here hasn't been much over 16% in weeks .

I really don't like to sound preachy, but insects are not a problem when you use OGBIOWAR Foliar.

Get clones from wherever you want. Craigslist? Ok, it won't matter. Spider mites, broad mites, etc. don't matter when you use it.

I shall step down off of my pulpit now.

 

[pseudostelariae]

i'll be keeping up with the veg tent and figure all will be well in there within a few weeks.

as far as the flowering tent goes, would it be worthwhile to apply azamax as a soil drench to avoid spraying the bud sites? i've been told not to spray it during flowering as the oil lingers and fouls up the end product. i don't even know if any other plants are infected, just looking to nip this before it takes over.

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

I would say the majority of people here are in less than perfect conditions. Don't you need at least 60% RH for these products to work properly ? I would like to try these but the RH here hasn't been much over 16% in weeks .

Humidifiers, and or swamp cooler.

 

[stickshift]

Be careful about whatever gets put in your garden, I recently made a mistake that I'm still slapping myself (Rick James stylee) for and it's cost me.. I put a herb in my garden to boost it up over winter without doing a check (dumb I know, but shit happens).. well pretty fast the mites took over... them fucks aren't easy to fight without going to full on ninja, cost me the ECSD and the fight continues... best bet for me is to clean the whole fucking thing out, take some cuts treat them and bomb the friggin place.

 

[surfguitar]

I would say the majority of people here are in less than perfect conditions. Don't you need at least 60% RH for these products to work properly ? I would like to try these but the RH here hasn't been much over 16% in weeks .

My rh is super low, these products still work

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

My rh is super low, these products still work

Without a humidifier, and swamp cooler on my intake my rh is 16%. With both I can keep it close to 50% with lights on. It goes up when lights off. Which is when I spray.

If you are growing in low rh you are losing weight. You can increase yields upwards of 30% just by raising the rh to 50%.

More than enough reason to do it

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

I forgot to add that on eBay you can find mister kits for 16" fans for about $30. Very cheap way to raise the humidity of an entire room.

 

[ozza]

Spidermites can't live in humidity above 60% so if your still in veg get them wet. Wet leaves. Spidermites don't like wet. They also don't like cold.

 

[surfguitar]

Without a humidifier, and swamp cooler on my intake my rh is 16%. With both I can keep it close to 50% with lights on. It goes up when lights off. Which is when I spray.

If you are growing in low rh you are losing weight. You can increase yields upwards of 30% just by raising the rh to 50%.

More than enough reason to do it

No doubt, I'm gonna add a pond fogger when funds and time permits. I'm using a wet towel in my 1k room right now haha

 

[Wav3F0rm]

Spidermites can't live in humidity above 60% so if your still in veg get them wet. Wet leaves. Spidermites don't like wet. They also don't like cold.

i can attest to the cold thing, but thats like 40 degrees for a long period. also, they don't prefer humidity, that doesn't mean they won't live in it. They'll still be around, they just won't explode into a mass of web and all that craziness.

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

i can attest to the cold thing, but thats like 40 degrees for a long period. also, they don't prefer humidity, that doesn't mean they won't live in it. They'll still be around, they just won't explode into a mass of web and all that craziness.

Not true on the 60% humidity thing. I have experienced spider mites with humidity in the 70%'s.

They must not have known that little factoid.

 

[somerandom]

If you are growing in low rh you are losing weight. You can increase yields upwards of 30% just by raising the rh to 50%.

More than enough reason to do it

wow that much huh .

No doubt, I'm gonna add a pond fogger when funds and time permits. I'm using a wet towel in my 1k room right now haha

That's my next move as well . Anyone know of a good humidity controller ?

 

[pseudostelariae]

i just talked to the shop about the infested clones and they didn't seem surprised in the least bit. gave me a bullshit apology and tried putting it on me for not checking them for eggs with a microscope. funny, i thought that was their job. apparently i give the medical community waaaaaay more credit than they deserve.

anyway, thanks for all the help. i'd run a humidifier but i'm already pushing the electrical use in this house. gonna go run an extension cord from another circuit and see if i can get both of these 600s fired up without burning anything down.

 

[ozza]

Not true on the 60% humidity thing. I have experienced spider mites with humidity in the 70%'s.

They must not have known that little factoid.

Yeah not entirely true. Once humidity is above 60% it starts to kill or affect the spider mite in a bad way. Infestation will decrease and as humidity gets higher the mites will die faster. If you let your plants reach 80-90% for 3 days you should murder the little b#$$ers. Although I wouldn't do this while it's flowering.

 

[Microbeman]

Unfortunately two spotted mites can adapt to a high humidity environment, although they do better in a dry one. The good news is that their enemy the persimillis will out compete them in a high humidity environment.

 

[bigshrimp]

Spider mites really don't like temp and humidity swings. Its not going to kill them but it may slow them down and stop them from banging so much. More of a stalling tactic until the reinforcements arrive.

 

[mojave green]

Anyone know of a good humidity controller ?

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=277357

 

[pseudostelariae]

pretty sure i found out the source of the mites. i decided to cut down the infected clones and throw em on the compost and while taking things apart, it would appear that the shop was using untreated bamboo stakes. when i pulled it out of the rootball it was obvious that the inside of the bamboo was a haven for gnats, mites, and who knows what else.

considering they were hiding on the inside of a bamboo stake, i doubt any treatment on the plant would have actually worked. they were in what looks to be fresh, green bamboo so they were probably well fed and would have just kept coming.