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18 House lawmakers urge softer pot policy

RetroGrow

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Another brick in the wall:

More than a dozen House lawmakers are urging President Obama to soften the federal government’s penalties for marijuana use.

In a letter on Wednesday, they ask Obama to direct Attorney General Eric Holder to scale back how the government punishes people for using the drug.

“We request that you instruct Attorney General Holder to delist or classify marijuana in a more appropriate way, at the very least eliminating it from Schedule I or II. Furthermore, one would hope that your Administration officials publicly reflect your views on this matter,” the letter says.

Marijuana is currently listed as Schedule I under the Controlled Substances Act, alongside drugs including LSD and heroin. The law determines how businesses pay federal taxes if they sell marijuana in states where pot is legal.

The Schedule I classification for marijuana is actually a higher listing than cocaine and methamphetamine, the lawmakers write in the letter.

“This makes no sense,” they say.

Holder would be the one to declassify drugs under the law.

Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.), who spearheaded the letter, has been an outspoken proponent of legalizing marijuana. As a state legislator in 1973, he sponsored a bill that became law, which removes any criminal penalties for possession of pot, USA Today notes.

Eighteen members of Congress — mostly from the West Coast — signed the letter. Nearly all of them, 17, are Democrats, plus one Republican, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher of California.

The letter comes on the heels of comments Obama made in a recent interview with The New Yorker magazine.

“As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life. I don’t think it is more dangerous than alcohol," Obama said.

The lawmakers highlighted the president’s admission in their letter.

Last week, Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) urged Obama administration officials to change the federal government’s marijuana policy at a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing.

The Democrat even touched on the death of actor Philip Seymour Hoffman, who died the weekend before. Authorities believed he had overdosed on heroin.

"It is ludicrous, absurd, crazy to have marijuana in the same level as heroin," Cohen said. "Ask the late Philip Seymour Hoffman, if you could. Nobody dies from marijuana. People die from heroin."

Vice President Biden, however, said last week in an interview with Time magazine that the administration doesn’t plan on legalizing the possession of pot.

“I think the idea of focusing significant resources on interdicting or convicting people for smoking marijuana is a waste of our resources,” Biden told Time. “That’s different than [legalization.] Our policy for our administration is still not legalization, and that is [and] continues to be our policy.”

The members to sign on to the new letter are Blumenauer, Rohrabacher, Cohen, and Democratic Reps. Sam Farr (Calif.), Raúl Grijalva (Ariz.), Mike Honda (Calif.), Jared Huffman (Calif.), Barbara Lee (Calif.), Zoe Lofgren (Calif.), Alan Lowenthal (Calif.), James McGovern (Mass.), Jim Moran (Va.), Beto O’Rourke (Texas), Jared Polis (Colo.), Mike Quigley (Ill.), Jan Schakowsky (Ill.), Eric Swalwell (Calif.), and Peter Welch (Vt.).

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...bama-to-change-marijuana-policy#ixzz2t88LbIU4
 
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Obama will tackle cannabis. He doesn't have to worry about being re-elected now. Thank goodness.
 

RetroGrow

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Obama isn't helping matters. He considers it a "vice". Anyway, he's a stone cold liar, and his vice president is against it, being the neanderthal that he is. Governor Christie, who will be running for President, wants to end the entire "drug war", and that's what should happen. The government should have no say in what we choose to put in our bodies. It's none of their business, but locking people up is big business, and that has to stop.
 

HidingInTheHaze

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Total decriminalization is the way to go.

Legalization is not what we need, then you will be buried with regulations, fees and taxes. The small time grower will be stomped out under legalization, mark my words. It will be another gift to the mega rich, to make them richer, and monopolies are likely to take over.

Decrim, they just turn a blind eye and let you carry on doing what ever you want to do. No jail time.
 

m314

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I thought decriminalization meant you wouldn't go to jail for personal use. I haven't seen any places that have decriminalized cash cropping. People who grow for a living will still go to jail.

I don't like all the taxes and regulations, but full legalization is the only thing that makes sense. There never should have been and never should be laws banning weed (or any other plant).
 

HidingInTheHaze

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I thought decriminalization meant you wouldn't go to jail for personal use. I haven't seen any places that have decriminalized cash cropping. People who grow for a living will still go to jail.

I'd assume they could decriminalize what ever they wanted. I know decriminalized possession is popular but I dont see why they couldn't do a total decrim.

And really unless you are rocking serious plants I dont think most places put you in jail, I know probation is quite popular.

Decrim you'd just get a fine if they catch you. Taxed legalization is a punishment every time you buy weed IMO, just look at CO with their 25% tax, now thats robbery!

Look at moonshine, alcohol is totally legal but if they catch you moon-shining they lock your ass up, I see the same thing happening to MJ.

For you to get in to alcohol production legally you have to be quite wealthy just like you have to be to open a dispensary or anything else like that. It's all about the $$$ to these politicians. They've got 17 trillion indebt and counting that is the only reason why they are even talking about this sort of thing. They know they can tax, fee and fine the shit out of it.
 
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Obama isn't helping matters. He considers it a "vice". Anyway, he's a stone cold liar, and his vice president is against it, being the neanderthal that he is. Governor Christie, who will be running for President, wants to end the entire "drug war", and that's what should happen. The government should have no say in what we choose to put in our bodies. It's none of their business, but locking people up is big business, and that has to stop.

I agree with everything you say. However that is not the reality of politics. Marijuana has advanced so much while Obama has been on watch. Marijuana happens to be legal where I am. That would not have been the case if Obama was not in office.

Christie is just pandering to get votes. As do all politicians. Our Country(our world) is not there yet for an entire end to the war on drugs.

It will have to come slow, and steady. Marijuana is the first step. Hopefully the Republicans will follow through with that whole "small Government thing", and take up this issue as a States rights issue.

I know Christie, and Rick Perry have said they support it for that reason, but they are only doing it because of pressure from Rand Paul. They know he is the front runner for the vote, and they have to mimic some of the things he says to try, and get votes.

I suppose in the end it doesn't matter the reasons. It only matters that less people will be in Prison for a FUCKING PLANT!!!!!!!!
 

m314

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It will have to come slow, and steady. Marijuana is the first step. Hopefully the Republicans will follow through with that whole "small Government thing", and take up this issue as a States rights issue.

That will depend on which wing of the Republican Party wins the argument over personal rights and the role of government. Libertarian leaning conservatives like Rand Paul believe in small government. Social conservatives like Rick Santorum believe in legislating their version of morality. Somehow they think it's moral to lock people up for a plant (or porn, sex toys, being gay, saying the wrong thing, playing the wrong music, etc).

I don't think Santorum could be elected as president, but I could see a more moderate social conservative winning the nomination. It would be frustrating to see someone like Romney win the Republican nomination and someone like Biden or Clinton win for the Democrats. More than half of the American public supports legalization. It's about time we had a major party candidate on our side.

Obama could effectively end marijuana prohibition today if he wanted to. At least on the federal level. I don't think he'll do it, but it would be nice.
 
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The only worth while person the Republicans have that can secure the vote is Rand Paul. I am afraid though that they are to uneasy with his stances on a few things.

Rand Paul has however pulled back on some of his Libertarian views. Before he did the switch I would have voted for him. Now though he is just pandering to get votes.

Yet another election cycle that I will not participate in.

I can't wait for a worth while politician that is seeking the White House.

The lesser of two evils is just plain retarded.

Contrary to popular belief, not voting is not a waste of a vote. :)
 

m314

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I'll participate no matter what happens. I voted for Ron Paul in the primary last time, and I voted for Gary Johnson in the main election. I won't vote for the lesser of two evils either. I'll go for someone like Johnson even if they only get 1% of the vote. It would just be nice to have a candidate I can support who has a real shot at winning.
 
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Eureka Springs Organics

I'll participate no matter what happens. I voted for Ron Paul in the primary last time, and I voted for Gary Johnson in the main election. I won't vote for the lesser of two evils either. I'll go for someone like Johnson even if they only get 1% of the vote. It would just be nice to have a candidate I can support who has a real shot at winning.
I fucking agree!

I got tired of voting for the green party, or some other party that has 0 chance of winning. If there is no one good then I just don;t vote.

I still vote for the local stuff just not the Electoral College rigged election. :)
 

m314

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I think we're stuck with the Electoral College system no matter how bad it is. The system is rigged to favor Republicans and Democrats and exclude everyone else. The people with the power to reform the system have no interest in doing so.

Someday we'll see a presidential election between a Democrat and a Republican who both support legalization. :) Someday this won't be an issue anymore. We'll pick candidates based on issues like taxes, spending, the economy, foreign policy, etc. Until then it's hard to support a candidate who thinks we belong in prison.
 
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