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Consequences And Reprocutions Of My Bust 3 Years Ago...

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
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we got in the game, we know the rules & supposedly the consequences. thats why there is such profit, because it is illegal... and grows like this are for profit, no doubt about it.

its our responsibility to leave the place as we found it, and if not, the expense to fix it is fully ours... certainly not the homeowners bad. they rented in good faith, and we are responsible for our end.

you should be held accountable, thats part of the game that you decided to play... same w the rest of us.

and yes, that doesnt mean the laws & pigs arent fucked up... yes they are. but so is the situation for an unsuspecting homeowner, unless they were in on the deal & taking a cut... then they assume some risk too.


Fully aware of what my responsibility is as a grower. But if you dont have a chance to leave it how you got it, this is an example of what CAN happen...

Have had multiple houses since this, and got my deposit back with every one...
 

rives

Inveterate Tinkerer
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Fucked up deal, Krunch. I'm glad to see your sorry ass back around, though. I've been wondering how you have been faring. Good luck with your latest tribulations.
 

supermanlives

Active member
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that's how the game rolls.. my buddies pad they used a handy chainsaw to gain access to stealth grow.....but he owned it.. now the feds or new buyer does
 

mack 10

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Hey launch maybe you should flip the table on them.. We're you aware of the lead asbestos? I know when a house is sold that was built before 1978 most contracts have a clause Telling people that the house they are purchasing could contain lead or asbestos. When you signed your lease for rent did they make you aware? If not then the owner left you at risk being exposed to them by not let u know

yeah man i'd sue that dude.
 
ive been popped twice in the past ten years in the deep south.never done any prison time but ive been in the county jail a couple days till being bailed out.i got a lawyer that got me off scott free each time.10k for each time.my home was never destroyed.The first time i was renting the landlord went into my home without me being there.he then told the cops he saw the grow through the window.complete bs as there was panda and shades on the window.cops took everything i got booted.the lawyer made the case it was impossible to see through the window and that he planted the plants in my home to kick me out.No charges nothing.second time in a property i was renting from my mother it was a case of loose lips..close friennd got busted and squealed saying i was growing lawyer again got me off.This time i pled guilty to possesion of drugs first offense 1 year unsuprivised probation.Each time i was in court we were the first case called.So its all about your lawyer and never admitting to nothing ever!!even if you are caught red handed your lips stay sealed.LOOSE lips sink ships tell no one. if youve got a grow going with large numbers dont even tell your lady if you can.Many a scorned women has turned in there boyfriend husband.So to the op i feel your pain..i got off a little easier but didnt have near that amount of plants.Cheers to everyone great thread.
 

BatmanX

Member
As most people know on here, I got busted about three years ago. 700+ plants, lb's of pot, cops stole ALL my clothes...

A REALLY GOOD lawyer got me 3 years unsupervised probation, $10k fine...

Fast forward several years, I get served at one of my businesses. Apparently the insurance company for the house I got busted in, wants almost $100k in damages, and is suing me....

When the cops busted the place, they tore it up! Tore down walls, tore doors off jams, cut power, fucked up the nice wood floor, scratched all the walls, fucked the house up!

When they went in to start repairing the place, they found lead in the paint and asbestos. Guess what? I have to pay for that!!

Thankfully, I have a new lawyer Brother in the Freemason's and we are fighting through this, to try to get the damages reduced. Looks like I will be paying close to $60-70k after all said and done...

Just something to think about, when renting a house. THIS CAN come up...:tiphat:

Hate to read this man. Solid advice to other home renters though. Really hope your guy finds a loop.
 

messn'n'gommin'

ember
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God, I hate insurance companies! Low-life, blood-sucking, scum-bags!!! lol...Or you could PM me and I'll tell you how I really feel them!

Aside from my little rant...it won't do your credit rating any good, but is bankruptcy an option? If it's a gubmint agency, they will get their pound of flesh (and justice be damned!), but for a private company, won't they have to stand in line with everyone else?
 

candidly

Member
It's not your fault that the cops are a bunch of cock suckers. I wouldn't pay for shit. If you and I keep paying for problems caused by other assholes, aren't we in effect subsidizing said behavior? Don't help support this fucked up, corrupted system.
 

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
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God, I hate insurance companies! Low-life, blood-sucking, scum-bags!!! lol...Or you could PM me and I'll tell you how I really feel them!

Aside from my little rant...it won't do your credit rating any good, but is bankruptcy an option? If it's a gubmint agency, they will get their pound of flesh (and justice be damned!), but for a private company, won't they have to stand in line with everyone else?

It's not your fault that the cops are a bunch of cock suckers. I wouldn't pay for shit. If you and I keep paying for problems caused by other assholes, aren't we in effect subsidizing said behavior? Don't help support this fucked up, corrupted system.


This would be a JUDGEMENT on my credit, if I did not pay. Bankruptcy wont get rid of it. They would either garnish my wages, or if I ever bought a house or sold one of my businesses, the judgment would HAVE to be paid first...
AND they want one lump sum, no payments....
 

candidly

Member
I understand your reasoning, but you have to put this in context. The fact is, we are less than 2 years (at most) from the largest economic crash in the history of the world, and less than 5 years out from World War 3. This war will take place on American soil and much of this country will be destroyed, with 100+ million people dead. The American Government as we know it will be gone. The legal system will be gone, its records mostly destroyed. Those asshole cops will be dead and--if they're lucky--buried. Whomever sued you will likely be dead, and the house in question destroyed by fire and/or aerial bombing. The credit rating agencies will be gone along with that bullshit "credit report." Do you really think your "debt" is going to survive all that?

I have read your posts on here for years, and I know you have the smarts and knowledge to make millions of dollars in the cannabis trade. Why in the hell would you continue working for the man, just barely scraping by while the vultures pick at your carcass? Now is the time to "Go Galt" and get your name out of the system. How can they garnish your wages, if you're self employed and operating on a cash only basis with no records or paper trail? Maybe if you personally bought a house in the next few years they might find out about it, but if your 'holding corporation' buys it with a few layers of indirection and obfuscation, that's another story!

There are plenty of ways to give the middle finger to these corrupt assholes. You just have to have the balls and willingness to stand up for principles, instead of knuckling under cause it's the "easy thing." If I had $60-70k laying around I'd be investing that in a gigantic outdoor guerrilla grow, not pissing it away to pay some assholes for someone else's crime. I'd take the resulting harvest, flip it into a few hundred grand, then buy myself a little spot in a secure location off the radar, along with 100+ lights, fans, AC, greenhouse, and diesel genset w/ a big fuel stockpile to run it all.

You can live the life you choose, RIGHT NOW. You can live the life you choose while the rest of the world collapses around you. Or you could piss away your money doing what you believe you "have" to do, and end up being pretty close to broke right around the time everything goes to shit and kills your unprepared ass. You might die of radiation poisoning but at least your "debt" is paid off, right? Your future is at stake here...don't make the wrong decision, even if all the lemmings tell you that's what you "have" to do!
 

Tonygreen

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I understand your reasoning, but you have to put this in context. The fact is, we are less than 2 years (at most) from the largest economic crash in the history of the world, and less than 5 years out from World War 3. This war will take place on American soil and much of this country will be destroyed, with 100+ million people dead. The American Government as we know it will be gone. The legal system will be gone, its records mostly destroyed. Those asshole cops will be dead and--if they're lucky--buried. Whomever sued you will likely be dead, and the house in question destroyed by fire and/or aerial bombing. The credit rating agencies will be gone along with that bullshit "credit report." Do you really think your "debt" is going to survive all that?

I have read your posts on here for years, and I know you have the smarts and knowledge to make millions of dollars in the cannabis trade. Why in the hell would you continue working for the man, just barely scraping by while the vultures pick at your carcass? Now is the time to "Go Galt" and get your name out of the system. How can they garnish your wages, if you're self employed and operating on a cash only basis with no records or paper trail? Maybe if you personally bought a house in the next few years they might find out about it, but if your 'holding corporation' buys it with a few layers of indirection and obfuscation, that's another story!

There are plenty of ways to give the middle finger to these corrupt assholes. You just have to have the balls and willingness to stand up for principles, instead of knuckling under cause it's the "easy thing." If I had $60-70k laying around I'd be investing that in a gigantic outdoor guerrilla grow, not pissing it away to pay some assholes for someone else's crime. I'd take the resulting harvest, flip it into a few hundred grand, then buy myself a little spot in a secure location off the radar, along with 100+ lights, fans, AC, greenhouse, and diesel genset w/ a big fuel stockpile to run it all.

You can live the life you choose, RIGHT NOW. You can live the life you choose while the rest of the world collapses around you. Or you could piss away your money doing what you believe you "have" to do, and end up being pretty close to broke right around the time everything goes to shit and kills your unprepared ass. You might die of radiation poisoning but at least your "debt" is paid off, right? Your future is at stake here...don't make the wrong decision, even if all the lemmings tell you that's what you "have" to do!

*yawn*

Sounds like the thousands of people claiming the world is gonna end on one day or another...
 

candidly

Member
*yawn*

Sounds like the thousands of people claiming the world is gonna end on one day or another...

*yawn*

Sounds like another idiot who whose rotten, irradiated corpse will be picked at by buzzards after reality bitch slaps his ass.

It's cute that you, in your profound ignorance and naivete, think this is a joke.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, did it fall?

If a person is not aware of what's happening in the world as we speak, does that make him immune from the inevitable consequences?

Every single day I read hundreds of news articles and thousands of comments, from individuals of all walks of life. That is how I know what I know. Disregard my warning at your own peril.
 

OrganicBuds

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candidly - If people aren't prepared by now you can't talk them into it at this point.

Krunch - That's a bitch, sorry to hear.
 
J

johndoe123

You guys go ahead and fool yourself me and boots is ready for war!
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Tonygreen

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*yawn*

Sounds like another idiot who whose rotten, irradiated corpse will be picked at by buzzards after reality bitch slaps his ass.

It's cute that you, in your profound ignorance and naivete, think this is a joke.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, did it fall?

If a person is not aware of what's happening in the world as we speak, does that make him immune from the inevitable consequences?

Every single day I read hundreds of news articles and thousands of comments, from individuals of all walks of life. That is how I know what I know. Disregard my warning at your own peril.

It's cute that you put yourself on a pedestal thinking you are better than other people when you are really just paranoid and delusional.

Are you a registered voter? LOL...

What are your thoughts on reptilians and greys?
 

jdkronyk101

Active member
hey Krunch,
hang in there, as you more well than know already, time will pass and it will be all over soon. i was raided about the same time as you, in the heart of the triangle. i had 2 lights 15 plants and a total of about 8 pounds processed. they weighed the dirt, the bins , the jars and the bags and charged me with 76.6 pounds.the judge 3 years later told the only witness for the prosecution the officer in charge, that contrary to their reports and charges she could only find 16.3 pounds total including the unprocessed and trash from the compost pile.
rather than dismissing the charges she corrected the math and i ended up with the same sentence as you and spent 30k getting there. worst of all i was the vice president of a patient collective(not a dispensary) which was at the time with the knowledge of the county and the state applying for the proper permits to open a "legal dispensary" in the area. i paid my taxes, owned my property, ran a legal non-profit, and still paid a heavy toll for trying to follow the rules and guidelines.
the first attorney i talked to quoted me by the pound. priced at a flat rate $1000 each charged with 76 pounds, he said hed give me a deal and only charge me 65k ,i wouldnt serve a day and all charges would be dropped. i couldnt believe it...what a racket...
i chose another attorney and since it was both me and my ex wife who were charged both her and my attorneys cost me 30k over the next 2 yrs of my life. 3 yrs of probation, community service and a myriad of fines. i learned the hard way that the law is interpreted by those who enforce it , not those who follow it. there is nothing legal in all of this when they are at your door with body armor, battering rams, machine guns, and warrants. they will throw the book at you if they feel like it. my heart goes out to you and yours...
i ended up spending the weekend in jail, but what did i do when i got out?
i fucking replanted and put in a third light...lol.... life goes on!
best of luck to you in your future,
j.d.
 
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