First Timer: 12 Light Coco Multi-feed

[LyryC]

going to the cannabis cup!!?!?!?! hope we can blaze it with some other icmaggers

hmu! its this saturday feb 8th and 9th at the NOS Center hwere ever that is lol.

Theres enough breeders there to make the trip worth it - heard DJ Short might be in attendance!

Cheers mate! Can't wait to see the jungle!

 

[dansbuds]

you just LOVE to argue with anything that comes out of my mouth don't ya Retro ???

back on the ignore list !!! don't know why the fuck i ever took ya off it .

 

[dansbuds]

i was using 3 gallon as well from advice from this forum then found I did better with 2 gallon with more regular feedings. If you look at some of my previous posts i left some coco plants in 1 liter pots and they were yielding 4oz

I agree you can do very well in 1 & 2 gallon pots of coco & i have . but 3 gallon give alot more room for root growth which equates to bigger stronger plants in my experiance .
to say they're detrimental is just not true is all i'm saying . what ever size pot you use is up to you & your size of garden .

 

[RetroGrow]

you just LOVE to argue with anything that comes out of my mouth don't ya Retro ???

back on the ignore list !!! don't know why the fuck i ever took ya off it .

Nope, but you are always ready to lose your cool whenever anyone has a different opinion than you. This you have demonstrated on a number of occasions. You are intolerant of discussion, and you have a very bad temper. So go ahead, take your ball and run home to your momma once again. Being on your ignore list is a compliment. Maybe you should seek treatment for your bipolar disorder. Sorry, but I call them as I see them, and I see you as a thread bully. Since you can't articulate your point rationally, it is easier for you to act like a two year old. I think your cartoon avatar is telling. Here comes the thread bully. He is really big. But like any bully, when confronted, you cry like a little bitch. So take your ball and go home little boy.

 

[ortsa1]

I agree you can do very well in 1 & 2 gallon pots of coco & i have . but 3 gallon give alot more room for root growth which equates to bigger stronger plants in my experiance .
to say they're detrimental is just not true is all i'm saying . what ever size pot you use is up to you & your size of garden .

i should say i didnt see negative results in 3 gallon pots but i found I did better in 2 gallons with tree sized plants then I did with the trees in 7 gallon coco pots

 

[RB26]

going to the cannabis cup!!?!?!?! hope we can blaze it with some other icmaggers

hmu! its this saturday feb 8th and 9th at the NOS Center hwere ever that is lol.

Theres enough breeders there to make the trip worth it - heard DJ Short might be in attendance!

Cheers mate! Can't wait to see the jungle!

I was thinking about it, but thats my birthday so I'm going to spend it with friends/family. Maybe next year!

Actually,, that's not true, Dan. You know I have posted pix of 2 gallon Hempys that out produced my 5 gallons by a wide margin. That's with daily drenching.
Not saying you can't get good results with 3 or any other size bucket, just that 2 gallon buckets are more efficient per gallon/size of bucket. Also more labor intensive, so I can see why someone with large plant numbers would prefer not to have to water daily.

I haven't used 2 gallons before. My pheno hunt seed run (C99BX1 & MNS Critical Mass) are in in 1 gallons, while my main room is in 3's. Honestly, I couldn't really see using 2's in my main room simply because of the less area. I pulled one of my plants out of the 3 gallon bucket last night when I was defoliating, and the entire bucket was completely full of roots. I can't imagine the plants would have gotten as big in 2 gallons if the 3's are completely full.

That being said, its my first coco run so I'm not really sure. I'm not opposed to trying a couple 2 gallons next run. I'm going to switch to smart pots anyhow.

 

[dansbuds]

i should say i didnt see negative results in 3 gallon pots but i found I did better in 2 gallons with tree sized plants then I did with the trees in 7 gallon coco pots

Well yeah !!! the difference in feeding a 7 gallon pot of coco & a 2 gallon pot are worlds apart dude !!

 

[dansbuds]

I haven't used 2 gallons before. My pheno hunt seed run (C99BX1 & MNS Critical Mass) are in in 1 gallons, while my main room is in 3's. Honestly, I couldn't really see using 2's in my main room simply because of the less area. I pulled one of my plants out of the 3 gallon bucket last night when I was defoliating, and the entire bucket was completely full of roots. I can't imagine the plants would have gotten as big in 2 gallons if the 3's are completely full.

That being said, its my first coco run so I'm not really sure. I'm not opposed to trying a couple 2 gallons next run. I'm going to switch to smart pots anyhow.

You could use the 2's easily ovo , but you'd have to feed more often is all . it would dry out quicker with less coco in the pots . but thats the great thing about coco ... it can take multiple feeds & not get soggy & the roots will fill out the pots no matter what size , but yes a smaller pot would restrict the plant size a little bit . not as bad as soils though .

 

[papaduc]

I can't imagine the plants would have gotten as big in 2 gallons if the 3's are completely full.

You're right, they won't.

It depends, like you say, on whether you justify the pot with the plant size.

At the point when a 2gl pot is drinking every day, it might at that point out-yield a 4-6-10gl pot which didn't need watering for ages... the fresh water and oxygen every day seems to give better growth rates.

But if you veg a tree in the 5gl pot to the point where that is drinking multiple times every day, you're obviously going to yield a lot more from it.

 

[dansbuds]

got alot of plants tipping over in 2 gallons too. kinda one of the reasons i bought the short fat 3 1/2 gallon pots . they don't tip over as easy with bigger plants

found these tipped over a few times lol

 

[RB26]

Thats a big plant for the pot size Dan. Coco is really amazing.

I can try a few 2 gallons next time, but will likely keep the majority at 3 gallons. I feed my 3 gallons 3x per night in heavy flower, which equates to about 25 Gallons / day (evenly dispersed amongst 72 plants). I really wouldn't want to have to water 4 or even 5 times a night, at that point I would start to feel bad about all that water usage.

This particular strain I'm running isn't a lanky plant, and to bush it out even more, each one was topped 3-4 times. While the height of the plants are relatively small for the size of my room (~4'), each plant has about 10 equally large tops, a massive root structure, and huge base stems. I'm very pleased with Coco and will definitely use it in the future.

The couple SOG plants I put in the room (from seed) on the other hand, are well over my head (6').

 

[dansbuds]

I find with the 3 1/2's that twice a night from week 4 on is enough to keep the pots moist all through the dark period till the next feeding . i do once @ lights on & once before they go off for the day .

My KQR (that pic) & my white strawberry diesel will both go 6 zips per plant in 2 gallon pots . even with my shitty headroom , if i can keep them short & bushy like that , they produce very well . I've yet to try them in 3 1/2's .... but i bet i could get half pounders in a bigger pot .

coco is the shit brother !!! as your finding out beats the hell outa any soil mix for growth . & probably only second to hydro .

 

[RB26]

I find with the 3 1/2's that twice a night from week 4 on is enough to keep the pots moist all through the dark period till the next feeding . i do once @ lights on & once before they go off for the day .

My KQR (that pic) & my white strawberry diesel will both go 6 zips per plant in 2 gallon pots . even with my shitty headroom , if i can keep them short & bushy like that , they produce very well . I've yet to try them in 3 1/2's .... but i bet i could get half pounders in a bigger pot .

coco is the shit brother !!! as your finding out beats the hell outa any soil mix for growth . & probably only second to hydro .

If I got 6 zips/plant that would make me very happy

You're doing a 4 week veg? Approximately how tall are they at the end of stretch with your headroom restrictions?

 

[dansbuds]

Those 2 are my biggest yielders at 6 per . most times i get 4 to 5 per in a 2 gallon pot , depending on the strain .

I've got 50" to the lenses on my lights , so yeah a months veg with some tying down & training , i'll put them in around 16 to 24" that'll let them double in size if needed . of course not every strian is the same , my wcd x sb needs almost a 3 month veg to get 24" tall with topping & she never gets any bigger than 3' in flower .

 

[RB26]

Thanks brother, sounds like I should be in for some good final numbers then

The SS is stacking really hard. They are only 21 days in and the node spacing is so close thats almost straight buds all the way up the stems. I'm really excited to see them finish up.

 

[RetroGrow]

I was thinking about it, but thats my birthday so I'm going to spend it with friends/family. Maybe next year!





I haven't used 2 gallons before. My pheno hunt seed run (C99BX1 & MNS Critical Mass) are in in 1 gallons, while my main room is in 3's. Honestly, I couldn't really see using 2's in my main room simply because of the less area. I pulled one of my plants out of the 3 gallon bucket last night when I was defoliating, and the entire bucket was completely full of roots. I can't imagine the plants would have gotten as big in 2 gallons if the 3's are completely full.

That being said, its my first coco run so I'm not really sure. I'm not opposed to trying a couple 2 gallons next run. I'm going to switch to smart pots anyhow.

3s or 2s, not much difference. I was mistaken when I initially posted, as I thought he was talking about 5s, which is why I went back and edited my post. Dan's whining got me off track.... I had MUCH better results with 2s than 5s, but that is in Hempys, which you are not using anyway. I had 8 foot trees in 2 gallons, with one plant yielding a pound. That plant had to be transplanted to a 5 gallon Homer bucket because it kept tipping over, but it grew to that size in 2 gallons. It would suck up all the water in that pot every day, so daily drenching was required, but that's a good thing in my case, as the freshly oxygenated drench did wonders for the plants. Would be a hassle with your plant numbers though. Yours would get just as big in 2s, but you would have to water/feed more frequently. Root mass increases when the plant is searching for more water/food. But when what it needs is constantly provided, the root mass doesn't need to be as big.

 

[dansbuds]

Thanks brother, sounds like I should be in for some good final numbers then

The SS is stacking really hard. They are only 21 days in and the node spacing is so close thats almost straight buds all the way up the stems. I'm really excited to see them finish up.

Yeah , you'll do better than you think , they're looking great so far dude !!!!

If ya can , keep some pics coming of those SS . i'd love to see them grow out to give me an idea of what to expect from mine when i drop them .

 

[RB26]

Yeah , you'll do better than you think , they're looking great so far dude !!!!

If ya can , keep some pics coming of those SS . i'd love to see them grow out to give me an idea of what to expect from mine when i drop them .

Sounds good, they are just starting to get pic worthy. Defoliating them has been a chore, but the results speak for themselves. I estimate 50-60% of the bud sites don't receive direct light (at least in my setup), until they are defoliated. Most of the fan leafs taken off are the size of my hand, with stems anywhere from 3"- 6" so they block a MASSIVE amount of light from reaching the middles/bottoms of the plant, as well as shading their neighbors.

 

[thewhitelotus]

IC, when do you like to do your defoliating and cleaning up the undersides?

thanks!

 

[RetroGrow]

Just FYI, and NOT to be argumentative (trolls need not respond), when you eventually "see the light" )) and switch to vertical lighting, ie, bare bulbs, you will have the same size buds on the bottom as you do on the top, with no lollypopping or defoliating necessary, + a 40% or more increase in available light. Also, quite a bit of light passes right through leaves, so although they may appear to be blocking all the light, some is getting through. That is a small point, but bare bulbs make a HUGE difference. Ready for some bud porn now........ Defoliating reduces trimming later, though, so i like it in that respect. All strains react differently to it though.