Buds Bundy
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In Canada Entrust is. http://www.gnb.ca/0174/01740007-e.pdf but hey Diazinon was safe for a while till they made billions then its wasn't so safe for you lol
Spinosad or other Thrips killer in Canada.
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In Canada Entrust is. http://www.gnb.ca/0174/01740007-e.pdf but hey Diazinon was safe for a while till they made billions then its wasn't so safe for you lol
Buds Bundy
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Seems it depends on how the crop is managed. The more you touch it/work hand on with it the longer the re-entry time. Seems "safe" to re-enter after its dried but not for handling the plants = not good for cannabis unless you don't you plants hands on.
yeah so even hand watering might be a PPE event withing the 7 days of first applying it. im thinking of making a 4 gallon bucket mix of it and just dunking the whole plant pot and all since they are just baby clones 6 inches tall or so. only thing is i need really long gloves i was thinking dishwashing gloves but they aren't very long. any tips? seems better to dunk than spray if you can help it for coverage on the plants and then i was wondering if spraying them might be better because it also gets the area ie: table where my plants live. according to the reading materials provided by entrust mists or jets of spray will work. when i visited this morning i found at least a dozen thrips hanging out in the open i killed what i could catch and shook them off the leaves the ones i couldn't. I have 2 treatments of azarid (azamax) in the soil within 4 days of each other and diatomaceous earth dressed on all the tops of my dirt. waiting for the soil to dry out now and tomorrow i will get the Entrust wait till my pots are dry and then do the full dunker. anyone else done this and what were the results? ithought i read something about as full dunk...
using a fogger and a surfactant the plants will be dry to the touch in under one hour
i use/recommend the fogmaster jr a nice unit for under $200
PS be careful using azamax if mixed with some other pesticides it makes a killer herbicide Ive been told
hmmm well maybe i will hold off on the full dunk for now haha i will get a 5 gallon bucket of r.o water room temp and give a good rinse before spraying just the tops for now i read that there was no issues of any neem based product used with the spinosad but azamax has some other stuff in it too. how long does the azamax take to go systemic and will the few thrips i am seeing just die off in the next few days? do they die from sucking on my plants during this 2 weeks it is supposed to be systemic for? the fogger seems a decent option but could i not get them just as good using a hand pump pressure sprayer set to mist? plants are looking good i just want to keep them that way 
ok the deeds been done. I used 1/2 tsp of Entrust per liter giving me a strength approximately .2% spinosad. and guess what hehe happy to say not a single sucker in sight and i looked hard in less than 24 hrs. i applied it at noon just before lights off and checked em at 9 after the lights had been on 3 hours and not a single one maybe some corpses hard to tell. no activity. plants look great. these thrips were basically getting immune to the neem products it would knock em back but they would just come back i will report again in a few days but for now i am very happy with Entrust. someone please check my math it is 80% spinosad by wieght powder i estimated 1 gram of powder = .2 tsp so 1 tsp is 5 grams ... then i said 1 tsp is about 5 ml, 5 ml = 5 g ... since its only 80% thats actually closer to 4 grams of spinosad close enough in this application as long as we don't start multiplying by my numbers for more volume. so 4ml in 2000 ml of water is .2% concentration of spinosad. it worked regardless if i fucked up on the math but just want to get the formula down for me 1 tsp of entrust in 2 liters of water worked great!
good to hear one application should do it FWIW
one nice thing about spinosad is that it doesn't set the plants back like most pesticides the plants usually look healthy and happier immediately after treatment
as far as using a fogger vs a pump sprayer the fogger is far more efficient in delivering the product because of the very fine mist that foggers deliver, the product actually makes it to the leaf surface without having to drench the plant
foggers save time labor and product they pay for themselves quickly if you do much foliar spraying
one nice thing about spinosad is that it doesn't set the plants back like most pesticides the plants usually look healthy and happier immediately after treatment
as far as using a fogger vs a pump sprayer the fogger is far more efficient in delivering the product because of the very fine mist that foggers deliver, the product actually makes it to the leaf surface without having to drench the plant
foggers save time labor and product they pay for themselves quickly if you do much foliar spraying
cool thanks for the info Frank I will be investing in a fogger for the future for now it seems I have success! and you are right about other stuff setting the plants back the neem seems to slow it big time. haven't used pyrethrines for years but i also never had bug problems like this before. as i recall pyrethrines were a fail for mites. anyhow i am happy to be pest free for now. was considering a follow up spray but i will let it go for a couple weeks then check and that will still allow me to do another spray 2 weeks into 12 hr lights. not affecting the flowers..
I am looking into foggers as well. I have seen fogmasters in industrial settings and they work great. I found some on amazon or ebay, but couldn't find them in any local stores. Does anyone know what stores might carry fogmasters? I would prefer to get it locally rather than shipping it if possible.
Buds Bundy
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Most hydrostores should have access to them. What area are you in?
Foggers FTW
Also great for compost tea, there are no dispersion heads or tight fittings.
They can overboard with the air volume/speed, easy fix with an electrical dimmer.
Amazing if you DIY a garden hose and sump pump instead of that wee little gallon tank
But I don't work in Satans Bug Factory anymore, and can subsist with a hand pump
Any specifics?
Also great for compost tea, there are no dispersion heads or tight fittings.
They can overboard with the air volume/speed, easy fix with an electrical dimmer.
Amazing if you DIY a garden hose and sump pump instead of that wee little gallon tank
But I don't work in Satans Bug Factory anymore, and can subsist with a hand pump
Any specifics?
Lorsban destroys thrips.
northernkush
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azamax mixed directly with floramite (1ml/l for the floramite)created a powerful plant killer
just want to warn folks that mixing pesticides can have bad consequences and should be avoided unless product label says otherwise
i was able to find it at a local supplyer someplace that serves agriculture could get you 1 lb bag of it it comes in 4- 1/4 lb sacks and like i said 1/2 tsp per liter will give you a .2 or so concentrate. less than what the green light spray has. but it worked wonders it's literally like the cure ... but dont use it too often i used it once so far and havn't seen them again. it is possible bugs could get immune i guess after a while but it is the best i have tried so far.
northernkush
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Are there biologicals that will take care of spidermites and aphids?
