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MMPR- meet the players

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chefboy6969

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USA will be legal before Canada

the states are turning green at an alarming rate...

they are broke and need the tax revenues and to kick start the economy and get people working..lots of reasons

peace
Chefboy
 
umm 5-6 bucks a gram..will beat any dealer you know

peace
Chefboy

Umm I can piece out oz's at $110 and make 1760 from an lb that's $3.92 per gram. If people can make a $1000 per lb/light in 8-10 weeks there will always be a market even if the dealers grow it themselves which if they sell at $3.57/oz that's $1600 per lb. With a few lights going you're still making pretty good money vs working

The only way to remove any profit for weed it to fully legalize it. If it becomes available like alcohol then its easy to get at just like currently it is from weed dealers. Put in any sort of barrier and it creates underground demand. Its customer service and cheap entertainment and people want it now with out any hurdles.
 

chefboy6969

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i agree with you there

I have always stated there will still be a BLACK MARKET ..never said there wasn't going to be...heck i will probably still buy from my guy...

but now there are LOTS of options

that's my point


hmmm i feel like ordering up some quality haze...just imagine...admit it..that's not a bad thing

it's called PROGRESS


peace
Chefboy
 

TheDonkey

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i agree with you there

I have always stated there will still be a BLACK MARKET ..never said there wasn't going to be...heck i will probably still buy from my guy...

but now there are LOTS of options

that's my point


hmmm i feel like ordering up some quality haze...just imagine...admit it..that's not a bad thing

it's called PROGRESS


peace
Chefboy


I can guarantee you it ain't "PROGRESS" to the thousands of sick who can't afford to buy free market weed. What's your cut in this program?
 

med-man

The TRUMP of SKUNK: making skunk loud again!
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so med-man brand will be cpl'd soon

i may be able to offer icmag discounts. how cool is that.

green supreme, you will love my silver skunk, bubble haze and thai kush (og nl#2)

med-man
 

Green Supreme

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Tried the BC silver Skunk years ago and let her go. Slow veg for mediocre weed. Scal still has the cut. He calls it the G.W. bush or Good Weed. Its one of the few he and I disagree on. Peace GS
 

med-man

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was it grown in my tables organically? nope

med-man
 

Green Supreme

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Now that is freakin hilarious. Ok, so Med guy seed buyers. You should probably not buy his beans if you are not growing them on his tables, seems the product is not worthwhile any other way. His words, not mine. Peace GS

ps. wait, so anyone growing those genetics on your tables organically cannot fail either? Interesting
 
i agree with you there

I have always stated there will still be a BLACK MARKET ..never said there wasn't going to be...heck i will probably still buy from my guy...

but now there are LOTS of options

that's my point


hmmm i feel like ordering up some quality haze...just imagine...admit it..that's not a bad thing

it's called PROGRESS


peace
Chefboy

There's nothing progressive about this concerning getting medical weed at market pricing which is $200 per lb and that's the aprox amount it costs to grow a lb. This is about creating a tax generating industry on the backs of medical users with the "profit/customer" projections derived from skewed numbers from the License To Posses stats.

There are three things that fucked the system up. The people taking the gov to court for more and more and more grams, licenses, dg, licenses per dg etc... Doctors that cashed in and gave out signatures to anyone as long as you have some history and went to get an x ray, and the gov that saw what these few doctors were doing and figured out how to let the system collapse under its own weight by issues all those grow/dg licenses in the last couple of years.

The gov knew who was getting those licenses and they knew in a short time they will have enough ammo to announce to the public that the system is being used for illegal market and that organized crime is now in full swing making money of the system. The minute they announced this and mentioned organized crime the general public didn't care if the system was done/revamped.

The proper way to do this would have been was to reduce the amount of grams per day to say 5, remove the 4 licenses per dg and address and wait for the "patients" to take the gov back to court to try to get everything back. By then the information on how the system was abused would have been at hand and they could possibly have managed to scale it down.

So you could have had say 5 grams per day maybe 25 plant limit with once license per address and once license per dg and could have grown for ever but no, now you have nothing and a system being revamped for commercial gains and tax generation.

Here's the other part, say the system does succeed, price of weed plummets and people start getting mandatory sentances left and right. All of a sudden 90% of all hydroponics stores and wholesalers go out of business with in 1 year. Id say Canada wide that at least 200 stores and probably 25-40 wholesalers. A few will survive, the ones where the owners own all the stock and have enough saved up to live on to transition into some thing else. These stores closing removed tons of pst and gst on top of corporate tax and income tax and its not a small amount.

The only way for the gov to cash in is legalize it, have farms that produce the product, have retailers that sell it and allow people to buy licenses say like a fishing license to be able to grow several plants in their own home. This brings in PST and GST on many levels on top of generating employment (probably quite a bit more then a few licensed producers) With home brewing, indoor gardening stores/wholesalers would be flourishing generating sales and income tax from several sources. But seem this gov want to restrict the access but yet thinks they are going to generate billions in tax revenue.
 

TheBlackman

Member
^
yo
there be some righteous words Buds Bundy,

rapin' the sick and common man,
with a program destined for the garbage can,

folks be makin' off like bandits,
almost like the government had planed it,

the system be changed but not for the good,
puttin' money in corporate coffers with CEOS's gettin' bonus'
while the sick folks be left out in the woods,

progressive this ain't for you and me,
this all about control,
cause with the kind,
money does grow on trees
 
Well what they are doing makes no sense they are punishing the people they want as customer for the commercial growers by taking away a system that anyone could afford to buy cannabis by producing their own and introducing a system where its now insanely more expensive to buy. Its like the Chewbacca defence.
 

JRace

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so who still thinks the MMPR will fail???


Haha..i said big money was coming into play....was I right?

in 6 months there will be 20-30 on the list

so now the crying babies can stop crying

peace
Chefboy
I would appreciate you dropping the insulting remarks and condescending tone. Some of us are legitimate medical users and are not financially able to afford our medication under the new scheme. Between me and my wife we will be looking around $1800 per month.


Would you also go to insulin forums and call diabetics "cry babies" because there upset about the cost of insulin going up?
 

med-man

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med-man brand has done a 3 year budget, ans will be offering g;s of organic hydro for 1-2 dollars. say bye bye to the competition

med-man
 

Pangea

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med-man brand has done a 3 year budget, ans will be offering g;s of organic hydro for 1-2 dollars. say bye bye to the competition

med-man


You've said this before med-man, then reneged, I have quoted both posts.

Lets see if ya can hold true to your word this time...

I've said consistently that my price for will be $1.5/g

For patients sake I hope you can offer a similar price...

But you better watch that organic talk, that there is federally regulated, and guess what, no provisions in the Organic Products Regulations for hydro growing, you cannot use the word organic on your labels or advertise that your products are organic unless they are certified.

I, however, will be applying for organic certification once I am producing under the MMPR.
 

chefboy6969

OverGrow Refugee
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I would appreciate you dropping the insulting remarks and condescending tone. Some of us are legitimate medical users and are not financially able to afford our medication under the new scheme. Between me and my wife we will be looking around $1800 per month.


Would you also go to insulin forums and call diabetics "cry babies" because there upset about the cost of insulin going up?

OK that was disrespectful ..and i do apologize...

and I know that this change has not been easy...but it was OUT of control...and needed to be changed and..standards put into place

And i do not agree with taking medicine away from the sick..That is just plain wrong


Don't you understand..they will be studying Cannabinoids now...too alleviate your pains and ailments..offering advice on what strains to smoke..offering NEW varieties never seen before...I call this progress

The old system WAS NOT WORKING

TOO MUCH ABUSE

NOT ENOUGH QUALITY CONTROL TO BE CALLED MEDICINE

peace

Chefboy
 

chefboy6969

OverGrow Refugee
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btw my mom just ordered from peace naturals I'll give a smoke report once it arrives...

She has Hep C...

peace
Chefboy
 

TheDonkey

Member
OK that was disrespectful ..and i do apologize...

and I know that this change has not been easy...but it was OUT of control...and needed to be changed and..standards put into place

And i do not agree with taking medicine away from the sick..That is just plain wrong


Don't you understand..they will be studying Cannabinoids now...too alleviate your pains and ailments..offering advice on what strains to smoke..offering NEW varieties never seen before...I call this progress

The old system WAS NOT WORKING

TOO MUCH ABUSE

NOT ENOUGH QUALITY CONTROL TO BE CALLED MEDICINE

peace

Chefboy

Old system was working fine for me and many others. What changes in this system make it soooo much better? Give us some insight now will ya? As for your claims of abuse, bull shit, as it is nowhere near what officials were stating in the news rags.
 
med-man brand has done a 3 year budget, ans will be offering g;s of organic hydro for 1-2 dollars. say bye bye to the competition

med-man

Med man, for the twentieth time - you cant certify hydroponically grown plants/produce/flowers/etc as organic.
As for your plan to undercut the competition - its a sure way to avoid having friends amongst your peers in the industry. Its better for everyone to keep a reasonable price in a similar range. This way people have access to safe, affordable medication and every LP gets to pay their bills.
Also, by having similar prices, the product would speak for itself and the sales would be directly proportionate to the quality one puts out.
 

JRace

Member
Med man, for the twentieth time - you cant certify hydroponically
As for your plan to undercut the competition - its a sure way to avoid having friends amongst your peers in the industry. Its better for everyone to keep a reasonable price in a similar range. This way people have access to safe, affordable medication and every LP gets to pay their bills.
Also, by having similar prices, the product would speak for itself and the sales would be directly proportionate to the quality one puts out.

Price fixing is not the solution.

Pricing meds directly based upon the cost to produce + enough profit to keep the company viable is the solution. And anyone who has done a business plan would see that it is not $7 per gram.
 
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