Floramite SC and Phytotoxicity

[grapeman]

I had to use some Floramite in my room the other day to eradicate some mites that were introduced to me via new clones (has taught me to start dipping from now on)

I used the higher rate and do see some Phytotoxicity. Not too bad, but enough to notice. Anyone else seen that?

 

[grapeman]

No one has ever used Flormite I guess

I had to use some Floramite in my room the other day to eradicate some mites that were introduced to me via new clones (has taught me to start dipping from now on)

I used the higher rate and do see some Phytotoxicity. Not too bad, but enough to notice. Anyone else seen that?

 

[somebody041]

i use floramite. i have no idea what phytotoxicity is. maybe you should explain that or post some pics.

 

[Dr. G]

y would you use a higher rate?

why not just go with the instructions??????

floramite is some powerful shit those mites arent going to be back dunno why youd want to over do it

 

[grapeman]

I never said I used a higher rate. The rate I used was the high end of the recommended on the label. Do you people ever read the post before you reply? I said I used the higher rate. Or do you use our product so much that you just come here and start typing while you eat potato chips?

phytotoxicity is light burn on leaves due to residue of the chemical. Phyto = light. Toxicity = toxic or slight burning of the leaves.

The rate on the label says to use 1/4 to 1/2 tsp per gallon. I used 1/2 tsp per gallon or the "higher rate".

The question was and still is " has anyone ever notice phytotoxicity when using this product? If you don't know the answer then why do you bother to write stupid shit here Dr. G? This forum is populate by idiots who have nothing better to do then write dumb shit to an intelligent question.

 

[VanXant]

grapeman,

Floramite should not cause any phytotoxicity. Ive never seen anything happen and Ive applied Floramite many times over the years on many different crops. You must have done something wrong like sprayed when it was too hot out, or too bright out or something.

No big deal. just do it right next time. dipping clones does not help if your room is hot and highly lit.

 

[grapeman]

Ty Blue and Van. Did spray just before lites out, so maybe I did miss-measure

 

[bali_man]

since the recommended dosage is between 1.25MLs (1/4 tsp) and 2.5MLs (1/2 tsp) per gallon I've always used it for new clones, preventative, etc at a rate of 1.67MLs (1/3 tsp) per gallon. I feel this is an excellent amount and have even sprayed barely rooted clones with no damage to the clone or the leaves, nodes, etc. =)

Good luck!

 

[bungle]

Does anyone else have much experience with floramite'/ I would be interested in hearing more..

phytotoxicity is light burn on leaves due to residue of the chemical. Phyto = light. Toxicity = toxic or slight burning of the leaves.

Almost, phyto = plant

If you were referring to damage to a plant from too much light, which in itself would be tricky, the term would be 'phototoxicity'.

 

[grapeman]

Ha! Thats what i meant. Phototoxicity. Light damage to the leaves due to the chemical plus the lights.

Does anyone else have much experience with floramite'/ I would be interested in hearing more..



Almost, phyto = plant

If you were referring to damage to a plant from too much light, which in itself would be tricky, the term would be 'phototoxicity'.

 

[Blue Dot]

Ha! Thats what i meant. Phototoxicity. Light damage to the leaves due to the chemical plus the lights.

Huh? There's really no such thing.

It's either phytotoxicity which can occur with or without light or phototoxicity which could only occur with light but needs no chems present.

I'm not aware of any special interaction between light + chems that makes for a toxicity other then the burning from the effect of water droplet magnification (which is debateable).

It's not like photons can change a chem to make it phytotoxic if it wasn't phytotoxic to begin with.

Photons, especially UV, can denature many chems including chelates like EDDHA, DTPA, which I suppose could in essence make those chems less phytotoxic if they started out phytotoxic.

 

[grapeman]

then i was right the first fucking time. Instead of imitating an english major why not give a usable answer instead of reciting the wikipedia all around the question? Or join the "Proper use of english" forum.

 

[Blue Dot]

then i was right the first fucking time.

No, you weren't.

phytotoxicity is light burn on leaves due to residue of the chemical. Phyto = light. Toxicity = toxic or slight burning of the leaves.

 

[grapeman]

Ahh yes I was. Burn on the leaves exaggerated by the residue of the Floramite. WTF is wrong with you. You have no answer but you think you are smart enough to rate my english? In my career in farming of 45 years, that's what is is called... fringe burning BY LIGHT due to a residue left by a chemical. So once again asshole, do you have an answer to the question or you gonna continue to blow me?

 

[Blue Dot]

fringe burning BY LIGHT due to a residue left by a chemical.

There is no such thing as "fringe burning BY LIGHT due to a residue left by a chemical".

For example, if you spray PURE water on a leaf you do not get "fringe burning BY LIGHT due to a residue left by a chemical".

What's happening is the chemical is causing a chemical reaction with the other chemicals in the leaf and in essence causing a "chemical burn".

Light has NOTHING to do with it.

What can happen is light is usually present when it's HOT and when you spray a solution with a high TDS on a leaf it can "burn" the leaf by reverse osmosis in exactly the same way too much fert will burn roots. The water is "sucked" out of the leaf into the salty "residue" left on the leaf.

Light burn is not the same as a chemical burn. Light burn is a physical process while chemical burn is a chemical process.

I appreciate the knowledge you must have acquired over 45 years of farming and I'm sure you know things many don't but we are on a forum where we communicate with words and words in science are not interchangable.

Yes, we all KNOW what you meant when you typed it in your first post but you just failed to spell it correctly and then went on to defend the spelling error.

Unfortunately in science, spelling is very important as has just been evidenced.

 

[Moterreal]

You sir Grape, have just been owned.

 

[anikas88]

HAHAHA. i dont always agree with blue dot but hes right on this one

 

[Tumpuh]

i use floramite. i have no idea what phytotoxicity is. maybe you should explain that or post some pics.

Or you could google phytotoxicity, then make a valid response.

 

[Tumpuh]

HAHAHA. i dont always agree with blue dot but hes right on this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytotoxicity

 

[Tumpuh]

There is no such thing as "fringe burning BY LIGHT due to a residue left by a chemical".

For example, if you spray PURE water on a leaf you do not get "fringe burning BY LIGHT due to a residue left by a chemical".

What's happening is the chemical is causing a chemical reaction with the other chemicals in the leaf and in essence causing a "chemical burn".

Light has NOTHING to do with it.

What can happen is light is usually present when it's HOT and when you spray a solution with a high TDS on a leaf it can "burn" the leaf by reverse osmosis in exactly the same way too much fert will burn roots. The water is "sucked" out of the leaf into the salty "residue" left on the leaf.

Light burn is not the same as a chemical burn. Light burn is a physical process while chemical burn is a chemical process.

I appreciate the knowledge you must have acquired over 45 years of farming and I'm sure you know things many don't but we are on a forum where we communicate with words and words in science are not interchangable.

Yes, we all KNOW what you meant when you typed it in your first post but you just failed to spell it correctly and then went on to defend the spelling error.

Unfortunately in science, spelling is very important as has just been evidenced.

Not necessarily light, but heat caused by light.. Either way why the fuck bother splitting hairs.. Just answer his questions, or refrain from posting.. Go troll elsewhere..