What Do You Do With The Stuff Left Over After Vaping?

[b00m]

Great find with that Temperature chart Retro mate
I also think that the quality of the buds, trim etc that go into your vape, determines what quality the reclaim will be and of course how much you vape it too.
I like to start off (Extreme Q) @ 160c (which is always super super tasty) and have a few puffs then go up in 5 degrees increments up to about 210c, some peeps crank it right up to 230-240c but that always does nothing for me at that stage of puffing and the reclaim is always very brown(burnt almost) and has pretty much nothing left in it for hot tea or milk or cooking with and tastes even worse.
I like stopping @ 210c and the taste isn't too bad or maybe I'm just getting used to it
Better stop rambling on now, that last vape really twisted me up

 

[devilgoob]

Shit has apigenin?

I mean I suspected it, but my God.

It basically helps out your inhibtionatory system by making the GABA molecules more mobile, if they need it. So instead of producing GABA, it makes GABA more easily available in the slip and slide, turing machine that the brain is.


Has anybody asked the question: Since we cook things, and plants help us survive, then are the surviving humans here because of the ability of them being able to choose a plant? (like say anything: heart problems, indigestion)

And knowing this, wouldn't a mammal eat grass for a reason, but then naturally internally know almost ALL plant uses (or atleast in their ecosystem), since we grew and evolved with them?

Taking this into mind, wouldn't all the cannabis seed oil, be the perfect binding material for THC and others?

In other words: Like coconut oil: is the hemp seed having the supposedly the best oil out of everything?

Has anybody tried this?

A few months prior I thought about this, but I want to create a test of some sort to make it legit, but I bet if anybody knows what I am talking about, they must try it out of scientific guilt.

 

[kmk420kali]

I save it and give it to my youngster neighbors-- I only run it twice...and half the time I forget what number I am on, so it only gets run once-- So there is plenty left on it, and they love the freebies!!

 

[RetroGrow]

It was recently shown that apigenin induces autophagy (a kind of cellular waste-recycling system) in leukemia cells, which may support a possible chemopreventive role, but that induction of autophagy simultaneously induces resistance against the chemotherapy drug vincristine. Apigenin is a potent inhibitor of CYP2C9, an enzyme responsible for the metabolism of many pharmaceutical drugs in the body.

Apigenin has been shown to prevent renal damage caused by cyclosporin in rats, associated with reduced expression of the cell death mediator bcl-2 in histopathological sections. Cyclosporine A enhances the expression of transforming growth factor-β in the rat kidney, which signifies accelerated apoptosis. Therefore, transforming growth factor-β and apoptotic index may be used to assess apigenin and its effect on cyclosporine A-induced renal damage.

Apigenin acts as a monoamine transporter activator, one of the few chemicals demonstrated to possess this property.[7] Apigenin is a ligand for central benzodiazepine receptors that competitively inhibited the binding of flunitrazepam with a Ki of 4μM, exerting anxiolytic and slight sedative effects.

In vitro studies have shown that apigenin may be toxic to red blood cells.

Apigenin may also stimulate adult neurogenesis, with at least one study claiming that apigenin "stimulate adult neurogenesis in vivo and in vitro, by promoting neuronal differentiation" and may be useful "for stimulating adult neurogenesis and for the treatment of neurological diseases, disorders and injuries, by stimulating the generation of neuronal cells in the adult brain." While potentially promising, the study used rats and its effects have yet to be demonstrated in humans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apigenin
You may think parsley is a throwaway garnish, celery is a snack that delivers fewer calories than it takes to digest and artichokes are just meant for dips.

But the real facts: Those three veggies, essentials of the Mediterranean Diet, are loaded with apigenin, an inflammation fighter that kills cancer cells. These foods can boost cancer treatments (some studies show it makes paclitaxel, used to treat certain breast cancers, more effective) or prevent cancer (breast, colon, skin, thyroid and leukemia) in the first place.

There are 50 trillion to 75 trillion cells in the body, and inevitably some of them will become cancerous. But when your immune system can knock them out, you'll never know or care that they were there.

Your diet is an important component of the ammunition you need for that battle, and apigenin is emerging as the toughest cancer fighter in the produce aisle. In addition to parsley, celery and artichokes, you'll find it in apples, cherries, grapes, chamomile tea and wine, and in herbs such as tarragon, cilantro, licorice, spearmint, basil and oregano.
http://www.chron.com/news/health/ar...-apigenin-are-key-cancer-fighters-4738722.php
The Compound in the Mediterranean Diet that Makes Cancer Cells ‘Mortal’
Scientists Design ‘Fishing’ Technique to Show How Foods Improve Health

COLUMBUS, Ohio – New research suggests that a compound abundant in the Mediterranean diet takes away cancer cells’ “superpower” to escape death.

By altering a very specific step in gene regulation, this compound essentially re-educates cancer cells into normal cells that die as scheduled.
One way that cancer cells thrive is by inhibiting a process that would cause them to die on a regular cycle that is subject to strict programming. This study in cells, led by researchers at The Ohio State University's Comprehensive Cancer Center, found that a compound in certain plant-based foods, called apigenin, could stop breast cancer cells from inhibiting their own death.

Much of what is known about the health benefits of nutrients is based on epidemiological studies that show strong positive relationships between eating specific foods and better health outcomes, especially reduced heart disease. But how the actual molecules within these healthful foods work in the body is still a mystery in many cases, and particularly with foods linked to lower risk for cancer.
Parsley, celery and chamomile tea are the most common sources of apigenin, but it is found in many fruits and vegetables.

The researchers also showed in this work that apigenin binds with an estimated 160 proteins in the human body, suggesting that other nutrients linked to health benefits – called “nutraceuticals” – might have similar far-reaching effects. In contrast, most pharmaceutical drugs target a single molecule.

“We know we need to eat healthfully, but in most cases we don’t know the actual mechanistic reasons for why we need to do that,” said Andrea Doseff, associate professor of internal medicine and molecular genetics at Ohio State and a co-lead author of the study. “We see here that the beneficial effect on health is attributed to this dietary nutrient affecting many proteins. In its relationship with a set of specific proteins, apigenin re-establishes the normal profile in cancer cells. We think this can have great value clinically as a potential cancer-prevention strategy.”
Doseff oversaw this work with co-lead author Erich Grotewold, professor of molecular genetics and director of Ohio State’s Center for Applied Plant Sciences (CAPS). The two collaborate on studying the genomics of apigenin and other flavonoids, a family of plant compounds that are believed to prevent disease.

The research appears this week in the online early edition of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Though finding that apigenin can influence cancer cell behavior was an important outcome of the work, Grotewold and Doseff point to their new biomedical research technique as a transformative contribution to nutraceutical research.

They likened the technique to “fishing” for the human proteins in cells that interact with small molecules available in the diet.

“You can imagine all the potentially affected proteins as tiny fishes in a big bowl. We introduce this molecule to the bowl and effectively lure only the truly affected proteins based on structural characteristics that form an attraction,” Doseff said. “We know this is a real partnership because we can see that the proteins and apigenin bind to each other.”

Through additional experimentation, the team established that apigenin had relationships with proteins that have three specific functions. Among the most important was a protein called hnRNPA2.

This protein influences the activity of messenger RNA, or mRNA, which contains the instructions needed to produce a specific protein. The production of mRNA results from the splicing, or modification, of RNA that occurs as part of gene activation. The nature of the splice ultimately influences which protein instructions the mRNA contains.

Doseff noted that abnormal splicing is the culprit in an estimated 80 percent of all cancers. In cancer cells, two types of splicing occur when only one would take place in a normal cell – a trick on the cancer cells’ part to keep them alive and reproducing.

In this study, the researchers observed that apigenin’s connection to the hnRNPA2 protein restored this single-splice characteristic to breast cancer cells, suggesting that when splicing is normal, cells die in a programmed way, or become more sensitive to chemotherapeutic drugs.

“So by applying this nutrient, we can activate that killing machinery. The nutrient eliminated the splicing form that inhibited cell death,” said Doseff, also an investigator in Ohio State’s Davis Heart and Lung Research Institute. “Thus, this suggests that when we eat healthfully, we are actually promoting more normal splice forms inside the cells in our bodies.”

The beneficial effects of nutraceuticals are not limited to cancer, as the investigators previously showed that apigenin has anti-inflammatory activities.

The scientists noted that with its multiple cellular targets, apigenin potentially offers a variety of additional benefits that may even occur over time. “The nutrient is targeting many players, and by doing that, you get an overall synergy of the effect,” Grotewold explained.

Doseff is leading a study in mice, testing whether food modified to contain proper doses of this nutrient can change splicing forms in the animals’ cells and produce an anti-cancer effect.

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/apigenin.htm

 

[m314]

Great find with that Temperature chart Retro mate
I also think that the quality of the buds, trim etc that go into your vape, determines what quality the reclaim will be and of course how much you vape it too.
I like to start off (Extreme Q) @ 160c (which is always super super tasty) and have a few puffs then go up in 5 degrees increments up to about 210c, some peeps crank it right up to 230-240c but that always does nothing for me at that stage of puffing and the reclaim is always very brown(burnt almost) and has pretty much nothing left in it for hot tea or milk or cooking with and tastes even worse.
I like stopping @ 210c and the taste isn't too bad or maybe I'm just getting used to it
Better stop rambling on now, that last vape really twisted me up

I just set my Extreme Q to 200 and leave it there. I'll stir the bowl one time after the hits stop coming to get a little more out of it before it goes in the ABV jar. I personally get higher this way compared to smoking it, and that's not counting the high that comes from the capsules later.

I've tried different edibles, but I settled on capsules since they're cheap and easy. You don't have to worry about the taste either. For someone wanting the simplest method, the capsules work fine with nothing but ABV ground into a fine powder. Adding coconut oil to the mix just improves oral bioavailability and makes the capsules kick in faster.

 

[Max Headroom]

I only run it twice...and half the time I forget what number I am on

LOL ain't that the truth!
i usually take 3 passes and with good weed i often forget which round i'm on.

 

[Stoner4Life]

(one time @ vape camp) I took the duff & put some of it in my bong, it was that nice light brown you want to see. anyway I took the hit & the back of my throat felt like red hot knives were being driven into the soft flesh, haven't considered doing anything but tossing it since.......

 

[Apache Kush]

Cool chart man! Finally a reason to get the digital Volcano versus the orginal analog one :0

I would run out of real weed and in order to hold me over re vape the stuff in my ''ash tray'' of vaped, or twice vaped.
''One time at Vape Camp'' lolz!

I found it still had a little bit of a punch depending on how vaped it was before.
Also giving it a good grind or hitting it with scissors to break it down and open up some more surface area
helped a shit load verus not grinding it, You can't burn all the goodness out of it(diff temps, like chart shows)
So if you are desperate it will give you a high but its minimal IMO.

However, sometimes my roomie would give me his ''twice baked'' as we called it, and it would get me pretty lit :-o

I will try the coco oil thing next time! Any links on making that style? Probally the best way to make use of it

 

[THC123]

Depends on how much you use, small leftovers times XXX = a lot of cannabinoids

I use a full jar of vaped buds for a pound of butter and it gets me shitfaced, real strong

 

[psyphish]

Powdered bud at 220 celsius with Arizer EQ4. The vaporized material doesn't do anything to me. If there's something left after vaporizing, you're doing it wrong... IMO.

 

[RB56]

Depends on how much you use, small leftovers times XXX = a lot of cannabinoids

I use a full jar of vaped buds for a pound of butter and it gets me shitfaced, real strong

I made butter out of already vaped bud once. It did get me shitfaced. Problem for me was that I hate being shitfaced. I grow weed for its uplifting, sometimes trippy effects. I want to get high and do things.

Suggests to me that extraction at this point is more useful for those who prefer the narcotic side of cannabis. Making butter from bud that had three pulls through a Da Budha absolutely got me shitfaced

 

[unregistered190]

This is some interesting reads.....

 

[RoadRash]

Sell it to the tourists....

Get a job at Dunkin Donuts and put it in the cops' coffee ?

 

[theJointedOne]

avb= already vaped bud

abv= already been vaped

same thing\

i have been vaping 2 years straight.

Avb makes great edibles, trust me

 

[Lucky 7]

I use the vaped weed for brownies . . .

I use a double boiler to infuse 1/2 cup of veg oil & 1/4 cup of water. I put 1/4 oz of vaped weed into the oil mix & simmer for 3/4 to 1 hour. Very strong stuff.

If you bake brownies, only use the mix that calls for at least 1/2 cup of oil, it will be much stronger..... than the 1/4 oil mixes . . . . tried & true!

 

[Apache Kush]

Thx all for the baking consensous!

Must be a lot of cannibinoids in the AVB'

that don't get burn out on our lower settings etc.

 

[Apache Kush]

Powdered bud at 220 celsius with Arizer EQ4. The vaporized material doesn't do anything to me. If there's something left after vaporizing, you're doing it wrong... IMO.

chop it with scissors! or grinder

It open up the cavitys and nooks and cranny's

it will help with releasing what is still avaible, or you might be doing it wrong.
Gotta chop it, chop , chop, and then the bag gets milky again. Volcano vapo for the record..