snot

[rocketman420]

I am running my girls on blumats, with GH micro/bloom and drip clean nothing organic. I noticed snot looking stuff in my res. I started using h2o2 in it and got new res, black, and turned my ac down to 65 degrees. still have snot shit in there. please help, I have no organic anything in there, no light gets in there and I have 4 airstones in each one, it bubbles like crazy. I don't understand, I have done everything I have been able to find to do and nothing is working, someone please help.

 

[BagAppeal]

I found running the water through a bio filter helps. You can make one by putting lava rock in a bucket that the water can go into, and then back out into your res. The lava rock will be a "house" for bacteria keeping your water healthy..Hope this helps..

 

[moodster]

I found that running a fish tank filter in my res really cleaned it up smells real fresh now

 

[rocketman420]

thanks bagappeal and moodster, I will give it a try I love the blumats the snot clogs them sometimes, wish my 4x8 tent would fit a 4x8 flood and drain table.

 

[moodster]

i use blumats as well and with the fish filter in thier i now get no clogging what so ever ive it a go m8 you will love the results !

 

[rocketman420]

how did you mount your filter? I use 27 gallon black plastic totes from home depot. how do you attach the filter system and have the lid on. I was thinking of getting a small 150 GPH pump and running a line up and bend it back down blowing through a filter.

 

[moodster]

yes m8 I use a submersible pump on the bottom of the res its a 2 in 1 fish filter and pump I just stuck it at the bottom of the res heres one the same http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Table-Aqu...3?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Fish&hash=item2c6419a94b its the filter which helps m8

 

[BagAppeal]

I have placed the bucket with the lavastones above the reservoir, using a pump to fill it up halfways, leaving the lava rock submerged, and with a hole that leads water back in to the reservoir. Works like a charm!
All the best
BagAppeal

 

[rocketman420]

thanks a bunch I have just rigged up a little something with stuff I have layin around. I used a 154 gph pump attached a 3 inch hose to it used fish filter, poured the carbon out and replaced it with hydrocorn. hopefully this will catch it, if not ill see what other fish filters I can pick up.

 

[ak-51]

Remove the air stones. In my opinion, when using blumats they do not help and they cause problems.

The dripping action into the medium will provide enough dissolved oxygen. It's not like (R)DWC where the plants are actually underwater.

Excess dissolved oxygen in the drip lines will increase the occurrence of bubbles forming in the lines, which is not conducive to flawless operation.

If you need to keep the nutrients mixed in the reservoir, a pump is a better option.

 

[120Octane]

Look for a product called ORCA. It is a benificial product made just for hydro applications. Its not alot of money to buy, and the application rates are small so it will last long time. If can get that or some kind of beniicials in your system it will take care of the snot, pythium ect. I think the heavy dose is 15 mil per gallon and wold start with that to get a colony going in your res. Once you have a colony hard thing is ers changes, leave 10% of your res water in it so when you add fresh you still have a strong colony of benificials in there, ready to multiply and fight the battle for you.

All the uglies are going nuts in your res since nothing is in the water to kill them off. When you look at the application rates you will say man this is hardly anything per gallon, wich is true. Once you get them in there they the beni's will multiply and build a larger colony on there own.

The slime you have is pythium, or root rot. I have fought and fought that crud. The only thing that stopped it was going to a benificial product. You can use all the hydrogen peroxide you want, dump all the chems you can find, but the only thing that is going to go to war and win day in and day out is a beni product. Not trying to be rude, I was dead res 4 years and fought and fought, went to beni product like ORCA wich is what I use now for 5 years never an issue at all. Read the label you do not want trich in a hydro system, alot have trich in it as a beni,find one if not using ORCA that has no trich preferably.

Dump a beni product in your res say 1 week if its acting correctly and your issues will be nothing more than a memory.

 

[120Octane]

Sorry sometimes I type short hand by trich I was refering to Trichoderma

 

[Finklsteinshtkd]

Look for a product called ORCA. It is a benificial product made just for hydro applications. Its not alot of money to buy, and the application rates are small so it will last long time. If can get that or some kind of beniicials in your system it will take care of the snot, pythium ect. I think the heavy dose is 15 mil per gallon and wold start with that to get a colony going in your res. Once you have a colony hard thing is ers changes, leave 10% of your res water in it so when you add fresh you still have a strong colony of benificials in there, ready to multiply and fight the battle for you.

All the uglies are going nuts in your res since nothing is in the water to kill them off. When you look at the application rates you will say man this is hardly anything per gallon, wich is true. Once you get them in there they the beni's will multiply and build a larger colony on there own.

The slime you have is pythium, or root rot. I have fought and fought that crud. The only thing that stopped it was going to a benificial product. You can use all the hydrogen peroxide you want, dump all the chems you can find, but the only thing that is going to go to war and win day in and day out is a beni product. Not trying to be rude, I was dead res 4 years and fought and fought, went to beni product like ORCA wich is what I use now for 5 years never an issue at all. Read the label you do not want trich in a hydro system, alot have trich in it as a beni,find one if not using ORCA that has no trich preferably.

Dump a beni product in your res say 1 week if its acting correctly and your issues will be nothing more than a memory.

Yes, this is absolutely correct. I used to try to keep a dead or sterile res. This was the complete wrong approach IMHO. This is one of the main reasons people are dumping their res every week or two. When the conditions for life are adequate then its almost impossible to keep life from happening.

When i started doing add backs instead of full dumps this became even more apparent. If you innoculate your res and have a place for the bennies to live then as long as DO stays in check you can run a res for a long time without dumping it. Ive ran a res for six months before with add backs only. No problems.

One thing i also discovered is the chlorine immune cyanobacteria that is often in tap water. Some are using bleach in their water at a rate of 1ml per 10 gallons or two drops per gallon per day. This is how you find all the chlorine immune bacterias.

What i use to innoculate is not what most people use and is also mislabeled IMO. On top of this its relatively very cheap. Its called 'stress zyme' you can find it in an aquarium store and its not an enzyme but a bottle of over 1,500,000 bacteria. I recommend it but youll need either lava rock, bio balls, bio filter or just somewhere for the bac to live.

Dead res's are silly, cause problems, and waste tons of nutes.
Innoculate with something. Also chlorine can kill bennies so let your res do its thing for a day or two before adding the bennies. The first time you add them do double the recommended dose. Then one week later add the recommended dose and youll never have those problems. Keep your res alive!

Imo the expensive bacterias are for digesting organics for plant uptake. They arent necessary when the only purpose is keeping bad bacteria out.

 

[Folate]

I've been using Stress Zyme on and off for years. I used to run DWC buckets and put that and a bunch of other stuff in. Always top offs, never dumped. I mostly used Stress Zyme like a pinch of salt over the shoulder. How did you apply, what are the differences you noticed?

 

[Finklsteinshtkd]

I've been using Stress Zyme on and off for years. I used to run DWC buckets and put that and a bunch of other stuff in. Always top offs, never dumped. I mostly used Stress Zyme like a pinch of salt over the shoulder. How did you apply, what are the differences you noticed?

Awesome, i usually just loosely follow the bottle. Im pretty sure it says something like 5 ml per 10 gallons. I double that for the initial application after my flood n drain has been doing its thing for about 24-48 hrs. Then a week later ill do a dose of 5ml per 10. And thats it!
I only ever use it in a brand new res. So if i dump or setup a new system thats my routine otherwise it chills on the shelf in anticipation of one day being called forth to perform the duties of which were bestowed upon it.

I also have bio balls in my res's and cloner.

How about yourself?

No noticeable difference in growth per se but thats not why i use it. It keeps my res from going sour or getting slimy. I accidentally dumped some organic material in the res recently. Leaves and twigs and such. I did a bad job of rinsing the used lava rocks i got free on cl. I can see clear as day a few twigs and shit in the bottom but nothing harmful came of it. Im sure the stuff was decomposing too when it went in but between the bennies and the O2 i get from flooding every 4 hrs for 15 min. I was pretty positive nothing would come of it.

Thats the difference i see. Plus i save a lot of nutes, water and labor by using this prophylactic which enables me to do add backs only.

I think I'll use less next time

 

[Folate]

I have a 30 gallon garbage bin I use as my "pre-reservoir"; an area for non-chloronated water to bubble prior to being turned into ferts for the res.
I add a small splash 2-5ml of stress-zyme to every top-up of the bin. The bin never has less than 5 gallons, so its never starting from scratch.
I don't do it for any specific reason. I like the idea of having a biologically active system, and I suspect that this participated positively in some way.
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