Buds crumble while manicuring

[AloeRuss]

Hello

Just came home and the person who manicures my bud showed me that most of my Nugs are crumbling in her hands.
However, the stem bends and doesn't snap.

I hanged it in the room upside down on Friday. Today is Monday
The temperature in the room is 75 and humidity around 50
At some point there were fans blowing not on the buds all the time but around the room.

Is there anything that can be done to add moisture back to the ones that crumbles? It's very bad and I need to find the way.
Thank you for your help.

 

[AloeRuss]

Craps. I just looked at the thermometer. RH is at 0?? I had a heater insight that was keeping a cold room at 75

 

[SmokinErb22]

When you jar the buds, the moisture left on the inside will distribute throughout the whole bud.

 

[Snype]

If the stem doesn't crack the moisture is still in there. You just have to jar it up and the moisture will redistribute itself evenly. Things take time. Could take a few days depending on how dry it is.

 

[AloeRuss]

But the ones that I didn't manicured yet are affected. The moment I handle them, they crumble.
Advice please

 

[AloeRuss]

Can I use a wet paper towel on the super dry ones?
Is it ok to have a heater on to keep 75 degrees or is it a bad idea?
I am just confused at how did they dry so fast that they fall into many small pieces when pressed. I feel that I made a mistake somewhere I need to fix.

 

[stoneybud2]

This is one reason I like to do it wet hang n jar n done.
Heater will be drying out the air n warming up the room leading back to drying the air out. Along with a RH of 0 will suck the moisture off the buds pretty quick

You can try sticking the large ones in a big zip lock bag n suck some air out and let it sit 12-24 hrs. If the stems are still bending. This "might" bring out enough moisture to the surface to get your job done.
SB2

 

[Snype]

Can I use a wet paper towel on the super dry ones?
Is it ok to have a heater on to keep 75 degrees or is it a bad idea?
I am just confused at how did they dry so fast that they fall into many small pieces when pressed. I feel that I made a mistake somewhere I need to fix.

Your bud is not dry if it doesn't crack when you bend the bud in half. Put it in the jar with the leaves still on it and let it wet up. You are over thinking things. Turn off the heat too. I like to cure and dry around 60F. Humidity should be around 60 rH.

 

[AloeRuss]

I actually took the batch that was superdry out from the dry room and set on the table outside. In 30 minutes they felt a little moister then when they were crumbling.
I will leave the batch outside till the morning. In the worst case scenario, it will be the same.

I heard that people put a moist paper towel around the dry buds to make them moist again, so I was hopping to find one of those technics out.

Now, back to the drying room. I turned the heater off. This will make a room temperature lower. Around 60 but if that is the only thing that I can do, I will deal with 60 then.

As far as that batch I mentioned. They all sitting on top of each other in the tray. I shouldn't expect any surprises there..

 

[AloeRuss]

What would you suggest I use to bring the humidity from 10 to 60?

 

[Snype]

What would you suggest I use to bring the humidity from 10 to 60?

Depending on how much product I am drying will depend where I dry out the product. I don't have rooms built for drying with the perfect conditions so my conditions are always changing. When I'm drying out 4 pounds, I use a small closet. If it is drying out too fast, I close the closet door and turn off any fans. If it is still drying too fast, I put all the product close together. If it's still drying too fast, I put it into jars that can hold 1-2 pounds.

If it's too dry still, I fill up the jars all the way and keep it closed for a couple of days. If it didn't wet up by now, you made a mistake and dried out your product too fast.

Like you said though, the buds don't snap. So if they don't snap and they feel really dry, put them into a jar that can fit all of it in it. It's not complicated. Like I said, the moisture inside the stem will distribute itself evenly throughout all of the buds. You have to give it time. It's not like cooking some Pizza Rolls in the microwave.

 

[Coconutz]

Your bud is not dry if it doesn't crack when you bend the bud in half. Put it in the jar with the leaves still on it and let it wet up. You are over thinking things. Turn off the heat too. I like to cure and dry around 60F. Humidity should be around 60 rH.

Thats good advice!
You need to get a garbage bag and put the entire plant in them
Then you take it out and let it dry some more
rinse and repeat until the right amount of moisture is in the buds
It takes experience to know when to stop burping them, even if you have a hygrometer to measure the buds RH

I actually took the batch that was superdry out from the dry room and set on the table outside. In 30 minutes they felt a little moister then when they were crumbling.
I will leave the batch outside till the morning. In the worst case scenario, it will be the same.

I heard that people put a moist paper towel around the dry buds to make them moist again, so I was hopping to find one of those technics out.

Now, back to the drying room. I turned the heater off. This will make a room temperature lower. Around 60 but if that is the only thing that I can do, I will deal with 60 then.

As far as that batch I mentioned. They all sitting on top of each other in the tray. I shouldn't expect any surprises there..

Thats donkey shit dude!
I thought this wasnt your first rodeo?

 

[Snype]

Yeah if you have to moisten your buds up with paper towels or orange peels or something like that then you really fucked up. Once you go to the point of too dry, you lost your future cure. What made you put your buds outside anyway. In a mason jar, when you close the lid, no moisture can get out so whatever moisture is left in the stem or inside the bud will distribute itself into all the buds. It could take days, you have to learn how to be patient. Many grower errors come from not being patient.

 

[entheogen]

It seems like using the paper towel/orange peel/bread/whatever method would be an invitation for fungus...but I'm far from being an expert.

 

[acridlab]

if you use a garbage bag, make sure it isn't the scented shits that everyone sells now

 

[Bush Dr]

I've dried bud to 0% moisture and it doesn't crumble like you're describing

Sounds more like mildew inside the bud, post a few pics of a broken up bud and stem

 

[Coconutz]

I've dried bud to 0% moisture and it doesn't crumble like you're describing

Sounds more like mildew inside the bud, post a few pics of a broken up bud and stem

Highly likely judging by the pic posted in this thread
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=277163&page=2
You see the soggy fan leaves?
https://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=249550&d=1388636201

 

[AloeRuss]

Snype

Things are actually work out well.
The cutter that was cutting here made a lot of notice on the phone and when I got here. I guess she was protecting her behind.
The batch that was crumbling did dry too fast and is still dry. But it's one batch. The rest are in perfect condition. She manicured 5 lb that I have in jars. Top shelf as usual.
If I can ask you and the rest of the guys here for another help though, would be great.
In my experience I have never had a batch that crumbles after 3 days of hanging, and I was cutting plants in a desert with very little RH.
There is something in my growroom that caused that. Either heater or those fans. I had fans before but not heater. I really don't want this "drying too fast" to repeat itself, especially when I am away.

Dr. Bush - no mildew, mate. I know how to avoid it. They just got too dry too fast. Manicurist panicked and I followed her lead . I removed all the extra conditions in the room and things are good . Thank you

 

[AloeRuss]

What I actually did with that crumbling batch, is I left it in my vegge room with RH at 65. This morning it was back and good to go.
My humidifyer/Dehumidefyer took a big dump and didn't do what I asked it too on top of everything.

Snype - I am on your side and I owe you one ... The steps you outlined went to my bank. Always grateful.
Gentleman - thank you for your concern and assistance.

 

[Snype]

Snype

Things are actually work out well.
The cutter that was cutting here made a lot of notice on the phone and when I got here. I guess she was protecting her behind.
The batch that was crumbling did dry too fast and is still dry. But it's one batch. The rest are in perfect condition. She manicured 5 lb that I have in jars. Top shelf as usual.
If I can ask you and the rest of the guys here for another help though, would be great.
In my experience I have never had a batch that crumbles after 3 days of hanging, and I was cutting plants in a desert with very little RH.
There is something in my growroom that caused that. Either heater or those fans. I had fans before but not heater. I really don't want this "drying too fast" to repeat itself, especially when I am away.

Dr. Bush - no mildew, mate. I know how to avoid it. They just got too dry too fast. Manicurist panicked and I followed her lead . I removed all the extra conditions in the room and things are good . Thank you

I got 4-5 pounds drying in a little closet. I keep the fan on only for the first day because of how big the buds are. I also keep the door open. If I kept the fan on and the door open, the buds would be crispy dry within 3 days and not be good. So I turn off the fan and close the closet door. If you don't have a dry room with all the gadgets, then you deal with the environment and it is not in your control so you have to keep changing techniques. You learn much more this way but you have to remember what you are learning. For me it's reflex cause i've been doing it so long but I enjoy thinking about it.

If you say that some of it is perfect and some of it is not, put it all into the same container. The buds that have more moisture will wet up the rest of the dry buds. Why are you having a hard time understanding that concept. You said the stems don't crack on the dryer stuff before too and you didn't give it a few days in the jar. If you continue to keep opening the jar, you won't give it a chance to get wet cause you are airing it out. Be patient. If you think you can't put it all in the same jar or bucket with lid because you have multiple different strains, you still can. Put a lawyer of 1 strain ant put a screen over it. Then add your next strain and put another screen over it and keep adding layers. If you put all your product into 1 container, it will be perfect but you keep asking questions and doing things that no one is telling you to do.