How much nutrients does plant stores ...

[AloeRuss]

Hello

Now that I am at the final stages of bloom I am asking myself this question. How much food does the plant stores since the last feed?

We know that plant stores food, so How close to an end does feeding it becomes a waste?
Another words, if I have 3 weeks left, how soon can I start just giving just water (forget the flash for the sake of the argument) and have plant use everything it has stored throughout the bloom, so adding anymore nutrients becomes a waste.

I hope I make sence.
Thank you all.

 

[habeeb]

this is a good take on flushing, as your not talking about burn / flavor / smell ....

your talking about nutrient waste.. I find that interesting also. I usually let go at 2 weeks left, but I use organic, so it's a little different as some nutrient load will not leave ( lime / rock dusts.... ) . I do not do this for curing or anything, but as you mention wasting nutes..

my best thing to you. experiment.

 

[HatchBrew]

Feed the soil love it nurture it and it'll take care of your plant. Soil is not a medium to deliver chemicals.it's a living environment of vast dimensions. Love living it

 

[Coconutz]

I just start fading nutes out when the calyx all swell
Some strains yellow quicker so I assume its different across the board
No need to over think shit
Just learn from doing shit over and over again
Find what works best for you and your shit

 

[AloeRuss]

I found, and I always used 2 weeks myself as a cut off point and start flushing, but I know there is more to it then just 2 weeks blind.

Yes, some of it could be strain specific. Some of it could be nutes themselves.

 

[trichrider]

try to determine how well your plants do without nutrients. then you can judge whether or not there is leftover nutrients.

my last feed is at flip. i'm stingy. but then the molasses has abit of nutrient value and that is reduced to plain water at halftime.

i see fade one month into two.

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

No need to flush organics.

Farmers do soil tests, and based off of the test they know how much of what their crop is going to need.

The same thing could be applied to cannabis.

 

[TheCleanGame]

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[TheCleanGame]

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[Eureka Springs Organics]

*facepalm*

Too bad the 'Not Helpful' option was removed. Was nice to just click a button.

Keep it Clean!

Don't know how that was not helpful.

You know what they say about opinions though.

 

[bigshrimp]

No need to flush at all, i defiantly scale down or eliminate all extras (sugars, protekt, fulvic, etc) a couple weeks from chop though.

 

[firehound]

I figure it just like in nature. the ground always has nutrients in it no matter what. its the plant that will fade to death and NOT take up what is there . but growin mj in containers organically (we re-amend the soil) in nature crop rotation , and atmosphere, decaying plant matter is what replenishes depleted soil. This organic system we are striving for is, to me harder than mixing up a 5-7 set of bottled nutes.

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

For people that flush, you should read up on Plant senescence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_senescence

 

[TheCleanGame]

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[Eureka Springs Organics]

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Marked "Unhelpful" as it has nothing to do with properly grown cannabis or a 'clean' cannabis product. Sorry.


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Marked unhelpful because of the following:

"There's no need to flush PROPERLY AMENDED organic soils"... That's a much more accurate statement.

There's nothing magical about 'organics' that will prevent cannabis from uptaking too much of something it will not be able to use. Improperly amended "Organic" soils make for disgustingly 'earthy' cannabis. There's nothing 'clean' about leftover batshit in your cannabis, especially when you can taste it.

Cannabis is extremely efficient at uptaking nutrients and will do so, right up until harvest. Unless the organically 'amended' soil you're using has run out of 'amendments' two weeks before harvest... your bud will be less 'stellar' than it should be.

These are the facts. Debate it all you want, further evidence in the future will only prove my point.

This is also coming from someone who's in the .01% for ability to taste and smell things, as well as being someone who's experienced the full gamut of dirty to clean cannabis there is. So... if you're looking for the straight skinny... why would you listen to information about 'quality' from people that have significantly less sensitivity and experience with cannabis regarding what quality even is? Seriously.

Yes, flush your organics until you're absolutely sure you've dialed your mix in for each specific cut you're running. Be very careful of the 'immobile' elements you're supplying and, within a few runs, you'll see a remarkable difference in end quality.

Unless, of course, you're in the 25% of the population that are considered "Non-Tasters" and then... well... it will all taste the same anyway.

Keep it Clean!

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[TheCleanGame]

Too bad you're in Denver, you better brush up on your quality.


My next run should be "Clean" enough for the task. The current run is a multi-strain F'all run of whatever I had on hand.

I'll come by and throw down next to any "Organics" you're running and would LOVE to have yours be better. Anything comes out 'decent' from this run and I'll stop by even sooner. Gotta love Amendment-64

Till then...

Keep it Clean!

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

Too bad you're in Denver, you better brush up on your quality.


My next run should be "Clean" enough for the task. The current run is a multi-strain F'all run of whatever I had on hand.

I'll come by and throw down next to any "Organics" you're running and would LOVE to have yours be better. Anything comes out 'decent' from this run and I'll stop by even sooner. Gotta love Amendment-64

Till then...

Keep it Clean!

You are trying to hard to prove something. I have nothing to prove.

I grow all kinds of plants. My ego is not attached to any of them.

This seems to be a disease that only afflicts cannabis growers.

I have yet to find this attitude in a vegetable farmer.

you may need to seek treatment.

 

[bigshrimp]

CleanGame

Ill agree with your point about immobile elements. Oversupply of those especially Mg seems to make for some nasty smoke.

Other than that there is a serious distinction between feeding soluble organic nutrients and relying on a soil food web to feed your plants.

The average grower relying on primarily on living soil will find much less need to "flush" than a grower relying on a organic (soilless) substrate. If feeding organic bottled nutrients the plant is at the mercy of the growers skill at feeding soluble nutes.

Idk maybe a definition of "flush" is needed.

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

CleanGame

Ill agree with your point about immobile elements. Oversupply of those especially Mg seems to make for some nasty smoke.

Other than that there is a serious distinction between feeding soluble organic nutrients and relying on a soil food web to feed your plants.

The average grower relying on primarily on living soil will find much less need to "flush" than a grower relying on a organic (soilless) substrate. If feeding organic bottled nutrients the plant is at the mercy of the growers skill at feeding soluble nutes.

Idk maybe a definition of "flush" is needed.

Again we humans come down to words.

I don't know anyone that uses bottles of "nutes" so I suppose my vision of growing is skewed. When growing with a complete soil these things are not necessary. You don't see a farmer growing tomatoes going to the hydro store, and buying jugs of "nutes", feeding his plants, and then "flushing" them.

I suppose the difference is the "hydro organic" mind set, and an actual agricultural mind set.

Reading books about growing weed, going to hydro shops, and getting on forums can get you stuck in the "hydro organic" mind set.

It is easy to change all of this. Some people are perfectly content, and don't care to. I don't blame them

Learning is work. It is however very rewarding.

 

[acridlab]

I'm a believer that, even with synthetics, you can get away without flushing, as long as you properly wean them off they're nutrient regiment. tried a lot of different methods, a lot of side by sides.. and yes, whoever posted about improper organic amendments was dead on, the nastiest fish smelling/tasting gdp i ever smoked was from some organic b.s that some club was raving about, cuz its omri, lol.. we grew same cut with all types of nukes thrown at em and it came out beautiful!...