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Advanced nutrients question

Holyherb420

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Hello I am at the beginning of week 6 and AN only goes week 1-6 but my grow is going at least 8. Do I feed the week 6 schedule twice ? Or just do clean water week 7 and use final flush week 8? Thanks
 

Holyherb420

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Awesome, also thanks for real this time lol. I've seen a few grow journals on these girls and they tend to go 65 days. I'll be getting a microscope here in the next few days for trichome inspection.
 
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TREE KING

just add weeks on the calc. however long your strain is you run overdrive the last 3 weeks. unless you wanna flush, however amount of days you wanna flush minus that off the 3 weeks
 

LyryC

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HAHAHA dont mind coconutz - hes an AN hater - seeing him as the first poster gave me some great LOLs

Okay listen here - one - don't ever do 4ml per Liter as advised. 2ml tops is more than enough.

Week one of flower should be veg nutes with say bud ignitor if i use it.

Week 2 start the bloom nutes and additives can be used once a week - but if you got your shit dialed you can use them everyday - but I'm only using Bud Ignitor - Big Bud - and Overdrive everyday - Things like Rhino Skin - B-52 - Bud Candy - Bud Factor X and other expensive nutrients that are really just accessories.

Bud ignitor big bud and overdrive are like extensions of the base nutrients - Base A+B works perfectly fine alone also - genetics make all the difference.

Now if you are finishing week 6 that means you are using overdrive - if you are. Flushing goes for 2 weeks or less if you can "read" your plants as coco says - so right now its up to you.

Some pictures would be very helpful to help determine your flowering stage.

If you only plan 8 weeks - I would begin flushing since you really want a good solid 10 days 7 being the least for your flush.

If you are using the Final Phase flushing agent - don't ph your water and don't ph it ever again for flushing - waste of your ph down - unless you are reusing your medium and want it ready for the next wave of plants.

8 week plants look liek this for me.

Monday Base + Additives so thats everything
Tues - Thursday is Base which in my case is Sensi Bloom A+B and then only the ingitor big bud or overdrive depending on their flowering stage.
Friday is Base + everything
Sat/Sunday are just like tues - thurs.

I make 5 gallon batches for now - and I use 30-32ml of BAse A+B per id say 4.75 gallons since I can't fill the bucket completely with out spilling.

On additive days I drop it to 25ml A+B.

Advanced Nutrients are potent - and will burn your plants if you over do it. Ive been working with it for a while now - and im about to get super specific on my ratios and determine exactly how much I can save on my nutrients since I feel I am still over feeding.

Forgot to mention - All the additives I use at 2ml per Liter as advised on the bottle.

Tell me what your using and the exact day/week of your grow and i'll help ya more - plus pictures could help us tell where things are and what can be done.

Flushing honestly won't hurt tho man! Specially if you are already on week 6 and only want to go 8 weeks.
 

Holyherb420

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Thanks a lot! I'm on day 41 since switch the pics are from day 36 it's hard getting good pics and don't like snapping them on the dark too much. I bought all the additives on sale at a local store. I water ro water then feed as per the directions on the bottles then ro water again.
 

Holyherb420

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Also I'm not saying I want to be done at all costs it's just that starbud and flower bomb kush tend to finish earlier from what I've read
 

LyryC

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just add weeks on the calc. however long your strain is you run overdrive the last 3 weeks. unless you wanna flush, however amount of days you wanna flush minus that off the 3 weeks

Overdrive shouldn't be used for more than 2 weeks - the plants are straight stressing at that point and even with strain variations regarding sativas that require more time - it would be beyond overkill - waste of nutes - and possibly cause flushing issues with mass nutrient build up within the plants and medium... past 2 weeks without a flush would not produce consumable medicine.

tree king doesn't have the greatest ethics when it comes to growing cannabis but maybe things have changed.

Get back to us with what you are using and doing and possibly pictures dude - gotchu :good:
 

Holyherb420

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Overdrive shouldn't be used for more than 2 weeks - the plants are straight stressing at that point and even with strain variations regarding sativas that require more time - it would be beyond overkill - waste of nutes - and possibly cause flushing issues with mass nutrient build up within the plants and medium... past 2 weeks without a flush would not produce consumable medicine.

tree king doesn't have the greatest ethics when it comes to growing cannabis but maybe things have changed.

Get back to us with what you are using and doing and possibly pictures dude - gotchu :good:

Already did. It's a few posts up I'm running connoisseur ab and all the additives the grandmaster package
 

LyryC

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I know this is said a lot - but some of that stuff is actually no needed from advanced.

For hte price and what it actually is - theres so many other better things for a better price and quality wise are still better. Aka Voodoo juice Bud Factor X Tarantula piranha and nirvana.

B-52 is best for veg and foliar once a week - its strong stuff and will cause super green lush growth if used right Foliar Spray pH shoudl be 5.8 fyi - i don't think its ph perfect - or they might have a new version now. I ran out of b-52 but i'll be getting some more so i'll chime in if its ph perfect yada yada

Do you have ph perfect conni? That shit is STRONG.

I would say its even safe to use 1.5ml per liter ratios with conni since its heavy stuff - ALSO with all those additives - it really creates more problems than solutions.

See that shit is complex - timing - scheduling - all these mixtures and measurements are what really drive people away from AN - including myself. Its a pain in the fucking ass to mix 10+ bottles of nutes... and when you are stoned - lol forgot what you literally just did and can fuck up - which is COSTLY - those nutes aint cheap!!!

So this is what ima leave you with - Use Conni A+B only. You don't need more than base - additives once a week and keep it consistent - same day of the week / amounts and ON SCHEDULE. Dont' want to be wasting bud ignitor - that shits more than voodoo juice and worth it - imo.

So BASE A+B - Bud Ignitor - Big Bud - Bud Candy - Overdrive - and use up that final phase but don't get more unless you need to leach out mediums and really make them nutrient free.

Your plants don't look burnt up - nice! they def look ready for a good flush and all in all you did a good job with all those additives but once again you don't need most of them.

good job man - and if you can try and take some pictures of the hairs/crystals - have you grown before or jsut trying AN nutes compared to your usual?

And CocoNutz - :joint: I was wrong - no seeds last run - and the hermie issues where obviously my fault - cmon man - you know i grew all those strains out too long - i just did it again with the strawberry cough x sssdh #7 so really its a learning curve and No seeds - no pollen - everything is going well. Infact my only issue is that these damned clones finished up 2 weeks early... thats why you say those mean things about me always :cry:

but i learnt - seed plants more time - clones 2 weeks less time ^_^

keep us updated on ur grow dude! :wave:
 

Holyherb420

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I just put them in a 5 gallon then mix it up. Not sure if its the ph perfect connoisseur. My first grow got mites bad so I just quit on it. This is my second grow but the first time im seeing it through to the end. So I haven't tried anything else to compare it to. This is the last feeding anyway. Then it says feed it the flushing agent the last week.
 

Coconutz

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I was just fucking with you man.
Thought the hippy diet would be nastalgic for ya and take you back down memory lane!
I love you homie!
 

relic1981

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any body do a side by side with conni and humboldt nutrients master a/b? i hear they are supposed to be similar and HN is more concentrated and cheaper. i usually use hous and garden when not running organic and have no complaints but am interested in the above mentioned nutes
 

Holyherb420

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Relic those strains you have collected have made me drool! Good stuff.

More to your question I have not. I did all AN start to finish.
 

LyryC

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take a pic of hte bottle or just read the label haha if its the bulldog - its ph perfect - if its the cognac and cigar picture then its not ph perfect but whats it matter! haha

@coco - I know man haha me too - but i was excited to report that I'm just a fucking dipshit who thought maturing buds were pollinated :shucks: learning curve - now its smooth sailin :dance013: dude seeing you post in here gave me such lols my friend left the room hahaha and then tree king came in here - talk about a flashback!

Use the 2ml per liter rating for the final phase brother - or don't use it at all! Its meh - since plain ole water is all nature needs - flushing agents are something to be skeptical about when it comes to senescence because they only remove nutrients from the medium using chelates that normally are best used for micronutrients as metals are easier to bond with BUT advanced nutrients marketing is extremely misleading...

:good:
 
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