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Bho Disasters (PLEASE READ!)

hush

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After all these horror stories and predictable disasters, people are continuing to make BHO in the middle of residential areas. It's like no one cares! This is not going to end well for cannabis. And it's all because people feel entitled to play chemistry in their house, even though they aren't bright enough to know how stupid they are.

This just isn't going to end well for legalization.
 

jump /injack

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http://www.katu.com/news/local/Two-alarm-fire-Forest-Grove-home-239598631.html


FOREST GROVE, Ore. – Firefighters in Forest Grove believe an explosion and two-alarm fire that seriously injured one person was caused by someone making hashish oil.
The fire started at a home near the Pacific University campus, at Main Street and 22nd Avenue around 4 a.m. Friday.
Crews said they found smoke billowing out of the house when they arrived.
The fire was completely out by 5:30 a.m. Firefighters said it was never a threat to surrounding homes.
Five people were inside the home during the explosion. One person escaped by jumping out of a second-floor window, firefighters said.
One person was taken to a hospital with serious burns. None of the others needed to go a hospital.
Firefighters said witnesses told them the explosion was caused by someone making hashish oil, which is concentrated marijuana. Its production can be a fire risk because it's prepared using butane.

Drug investigators were called to the scene.
Friday's blast was the second involving hash oil in the last year in Forest Grove. In March 2013, five people were hurt in a hash oil cooking explosion. One man was arrested.

[It has taken years to get cannabis legalized and now this. Just a question here, if you lived in an apartment building with your family and found out that the next door neighbor was using butane extraction methods without asking your permission what would you do to that person? Just pretend that you love your parents and children and that they can be made into walking, running screaming torches at anytime because the guy next door is doing his trick in the kitchen.]
 

jump /injack

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http://www.oregonlive.com/forest-grove/index.ssf/2014/01/surveillance_video_shows_hash.html

[This is an update of the Forest Grove explosion and fire, it has video of the house blowing up, 3 animals dead, one person in serious condition and 4 others looking at some jail time; the fireball from a butane explosion is over 3000 degrees, it'll melt your eyes.]

Pacific University surveillance video released by police shows a Forest Grove home go up in flames after a hash oil explosion early Friday.
The two-alarm fire was reported about 4 a.m. in the 1900 block of 22nd Avenue and injured three people, including a man in his 20s in critical condition at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center's Burn Center, according to Forest Grove police. Footage of the explosion and fire were captured by security cameras in a nearby parking lot at the university.
Related: Forest Grove hash oil explosion leaves man in critical condition, police say

Three cats were killed in the fire, which was caused by one resident attempting to make hashish oil, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue said. That resident was the man being treated at Legacy Emanuel, according to the agency.
Five people and a pet snake were displaced by the blaze and everything in the main portion of the home was destroyed, the fire department said. More than 40 firefighters responded to the scene needing 25 minutes to extinguish the majority of the flames only for them to flare up again about 7:30 a.m.
No arrests have been made and the incident is still under investigation.
-- Everton Bailey Jr.
 

gaiusmarius

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this is really making me sick, how the fuck can people still be doing it wrong? how many explosions do we need before there is some sense in the canna scene.
 

SkyHighLer

Got me a stone bad Mana
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this is really making me sick, how the fuck can people still be doing it wrong? how many explosions do we need before there is some sense in the canna scene.

Our experience is with solvents that are liquid at ambient temperatures, such as alcohol, acetone, paint thinners, and gasoline. The mistake being made is equating our experience with these to some liquid butane sitting in a dish.

The common solvents we work with daily, when spilled and ignited, flash up and then burn on and on as the liquid slowly vaporizes before combustion. Spill a dish of butane and ignite it and it instantly vaporizes on contact with anything above it's boiling point of about 35F, and then flashes completely, explosion!

Sure we use propane torches and BBQ grills, but we don't have experience with the danger of quantities of exposed flammable liquids that are gases at ambient.

That's the answer, but I don't know how to word it to get the point across.

^ That's my answer, and education is the key. We should have a short video that we insist every potential extractor view showing the difference in explosiveness of butane compared to the other solvents we are familiar with in our daily lives, like gasoline, alcohol, acetone, and the other common solvents found at any hardware store in the US. The video would show the flash from ignition of a pyrex dish filled with the same amounts of the most common solvents along with the explosion from the same amount of liquid butane. The contrast should be black and white, and scare the crap out of even the idiots...
 

Thomas Paine

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"He says fires in the Seattle area often come with a particular twist: They start with exploding refrigerators. Apparently, some people put their marijuana-butane marinade in the freezer. "Maybe the process works better when it's colder," O'Quinn says.

Most freezers have a fan, which then circulates the volatile butane fumes into the rest of the refrigerator, "down to where the compressor is," he explains. "A small spark will set it off, and it generally blows the door off."

http://www.npr.org/2014/01/10/261390781/marijuana-hash-oil-explodes-in-popularity-and-kitchens
 

gaiusmarius

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"He says fires in the Seattle area often come with a particular twist: They start with exploding refrigerators. Apparently, some people put their marijuana-butane marinade in the freezer. "Maybe the process works better when it's colder," O'Quinn says.

Most freezers have a fan, which then circulates the volatile butane fumes into the rest of the refrigerator, "down to where the compressor is," he explains. "A small spark will set it off, and it generally blows the door off."

http://www.npr.org/2014/01/10/261390781/marijuana-hash-oil-explodes-in-popularity-and-kitchens

this is an interesting explanation, i wonder if it is fully correct though. if the butane is frozen it shouldn't make any gas? also when i look at my freezer, there is no ventilation, it's a sealed box. i think the explanation of the butane collecting on the floor and reaching a spark from the fridge that way is more plausible. there again i'm no chemist, maybe GW will give us his take. it is important as there are a couple of threads where people are winterizing, so all the potential danger of this process in various freezers should be considered.
 

SkyHighLer

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this is an interesting explanation, i wonder if it is fully correct though. if the butane is frozen it shouldn't make any gas? also when i look at my freezer, there is no ventilation, it's a sealed box. i think the explanation of the butane collecting on the floor and reaching a spark from the fridge that way is more plausible. there again i'm no chemist, maybe GW will give us his take. it is important as there are a couple of threads where people are winterizing, so all the potential danger of this process in various freezers should be considered.

All the refrigerators I've had for decades have had a fan and an auto-defrost cycle.

The propane in canned butane has a boiling point of -44 F (-42.2222 °C) NIOSH TX2275000, plenty of pressure at normal freezer temperatures. I freeze a can or two before use, but don't store it long term in the freezer. I seal it up in bag so if I open the freezer door and the bag has expanded, and I'm not already fried, I know I've got a critical situation to deal with...
 

Gray Wolf

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this is an interesting explanation, i wonder if it is fully correct though. if the butane is frozen it shouldn't make any gas? also when i look at my freezer, there is no ventilation, it's a sealed box. i think the explanation of the butane collecting on the floor and reaching a spark from the fridge that way is more plausible. there again i'm no chemist, maybe GW will give us his take. it is important as there are a couple of threads where people are winterizing, so all the potential danger of this process in various freezers should be considered.

Most refrigerators have the thermostat contacts inside the box, that sparks every time it turns on and since butane is heavier than air, it can accumulate at the bottom and when you open the door, run out like water down to where most refrigerator motors are.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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And loosing ones children to child protective services could be considered a disaster to most parents.


if thats really the way you feel, then you should be posting up thousands of stories you are missing where people lost their kids to authorities... dont be ignorant.
 

gaiusmarius

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i would love to see a thread about winterization having a detailed, safe; how to guide included. this article was saying a lot of butane hash explosions started in the freezer or fridge, so there seems to be an information gap about the dangers of winterization.
 
I doubt it is winterization causing these explosions, ethanol fumes are not explosive, they are flammable but only the surface burns. and most people put a cap on the jar when winterizing to avoid condensation.

Most likely it is people attempting a butane soak style extraction, which involves soaking the material in a thermos/jar at sub-zero temps. Also could be people trying to dewax with butane in the freezer. Dry ice in a cooler outside is a much safer route for these techniques.
 

gaiusmarius

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oops, damn! thats what i was thinking about, you are right, thats not the winterization process but the soak method. but even there, i thought if the tane is frozen it stays liquid?
 

Gray Wolf

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oops, damn! thats what i was thinking about, you are right, thats not the winterization process but the soak method. but even there, i thought if the tane is frozen it stays liquid?

Molecules of butane will fill the space above the liquid as vapor and can escape, especially given they are heavier than air and tend to clump and flow like a liquid.
 

Thomas Paine

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Most refrigerators have the thermostat contacts inside the box, that sparks every time it turns on and since butane is heavier than air, it can accumulate at the bottom and when you open the door, run out like water down to where most refrigerator motors are.

Thank you Gray Wolf for explaining this.

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Another TWO explosions this week in Fresno (for a total of 3 this month!)... damn, Fresno is literally blowing up!

Fresno man suffers burns during marijuana honey oil extraction
ABC30 Bay Area
FRESNO, Calif. (KFSN) -- One man is being treated for burns after Fresno firefighters say he was involved in an operation to extract honey oil from marijuana.

Firefighters went to a call about a small explosion at an apartment near Olive and Ninth. When they got there they found a man with burns to his arms and legs.

Police say Tommie Nellon, 28, was using butane gas to make a more potent form of marijuana called honey oil. The process caused the explosion.
"I thought our faces could have gotten blown off or something," said Destiny Godines.

Firefighters say a teenager and a six-year-old child were inside at the time. "Not only are they impacting their own health but the other people who lived in the apartments with them," said Battalion Chief, Lawrence French.

Over the weekend another honey oil explosion sent another person to the hospital with burns. Officers are seeing more people illegally create the drug recently.

"It's very flammable, very dangerous and I would say this is probably the third explosion I have been to in the last couple of weeks," said Lt. Phil Cooley.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-flirts-with-record-heat-no-rain-on-way-5138447.php
 

Thomas Paine

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if thats really the way you feel, then you should be posting up thousands of stories you are missing where people lost their kids to authorities... dont be ignorant.

If a story involves BHO and loosing ones kids because of it, it will be posted.

You apparently don't have kids, and as a BHO enthusiast you obviously don't care about anyone or anything - children included - you have made this glaringly obvious.

Now go suck your glass dick.
 

Hermanthegerman

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Manana? First try for this Desaster? :biggrin:

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jump /injack

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http://www.koin.com/news/clark-county/hash-oil-responsible-for-vancouver-kitchen-explosion

PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) – Police say an explosion at a Vancouver home Sunday night was caused by an attempt to make hash oil.

The explosion occurred in the kitchen of a home located at 2005 E. 29th St., according to Vancouver police. A friend drove a male resident to a local hospital after he sustained facial burns.

Detectives searched the home and found large amounts of processed marijuana, several butane cans and smoking paraphernalia. The manufacturing process of hash oil, also known as marijuana wax, requires large amounts of butane, a highly flammable gas.

The explosion did not spark a fire. The name of the victim was not released.

The Clark-Vancouver Regional Drug Task Force is investigating.
Last week, police also blamed an explosion at a Forest Grove, Ore., home on an attempt to manufacture hash oil. Three people were injured in that incident, one critically.
 
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