How strong is oil?

[Nickog]

I have been making oil for edibles for years. I have fine tuned my process using many tips and information from this forum. After I make a few ounces of oil, I go through the procedure of dissolving it in denatured alcohol again and freezing it for a few days to separate the waxes, pouring off the top liquid and finish processing the oil for my edibles.
When I make a batch of lollipops or candy or anything, I use 1 gram to make about 22 treats. They are strong. I can't eat a whole one. Most of my patients take a quarter of a edible every 4 hours if they want to stay awake. Most people who eat a whole one falls asleep with in 1-2 hours as they can't stay awake anymore and will sleep like a rock for 8 to 12 hours.
People are asking me to give a measurement of the strength.

I use 2 pounds of trim, minimal fan leaves, to yield 2 ounces of oil from 2 extractions, using 2 gallons of denatured alcohol.

I was reading some people's claims of "65mg THC per a 420 bar" and "120 mg in a brownie", and "2.8gm cannabis in a cookie" and "70 to 175 mg THC in a Cheeba Chew" claiming to be lab tested.

I am using an average of 45mg of oil in one edible. I can't imagine anyone taking more at a time.

What can I assume my oil strength is? Does anyone have any input as to claims of strength? Is there an established strength of a dose?

 

[TheCleanGame]

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[m314]

Your oil might be anywhere from 60% to 80% THC. You won't know the exact percentage unless you get it tested.

Edibles with larger amounts of THC are meant for people with high tolerances. A number of people on this forum consume a gram of oil a day or more. An edible with 45 mg of oil would be strong for me, but some of my friends would barely feel it. It's all about tolerance.

 

[PenZenMaster]

What can I assume my oil strength is? Does anyone have any input as to claims of strength? Is there an established strength of a dose?

Uh, aren't we making medicine here? Testing from a reliable lab or purchase the equipment and test your self are the only way to go. I participate in a vendors farmers market and we use Analytical 360.

We test our flowers, we test our final products. We provide dosages from 10 Mg THC all the way up to 250 Mg THC.

As some have already mentioned you can assume that if you are starting with good material (~15% THC) you can expect about a 4x improvement in strength by weight which would come to about 60% THC in the oil.

So 1 gram of BHO at 60% THC will give you about 600 Mg of THC. If you make 60 pieces of candy for example each one would be about 10 Mg THC each.

 

[Permacultuure]

PZM said it! edibles are notorious for being dosed improperly. If you look at analytical360's test results for edibles you'll see a huge variance in dosage compared to initial claims....Without testing your initial product you can't honestly say what the dosage is.

@pzm is true that with 502 edible are limited to 100mg?

 

[Permacultuure]

Try harvesting your bud earlier?

When you let cannabis go too long the THC begins to degrade into CBN (at least that's what I've read). The effect that I've found it to have is not being able to stay awake 45 minutes after medicating with it.

The same plant harvested on time (about 10% amber trichs) does not have that narcotic sleepy effect.

Keep it Clean!

I love letting strains go too long....early harvest creates a medicine that give me anxiety! Sours especially!

 

[m314]

I love letting strains go too long....early harvest creates a medicine that give me anxiety! Sours especially!

It's funny how cannabis affects different people differently. I'm the exact opposite. I love harvesting sativa dominant strains a little early. C99 is my favorite. There's this electric energy you get with an early harvest that just isn't there if you let it go too long. I don't know if the change in the high comes from a change in the cannabinoid levels or a change in the terpene levels.

 

[Gray Wolf]

I have been making oil for edibles for years. I have fine tuned my process using many tips and information from this forum. After I make a few ounces of oil, I go through the procedure of dissolving it in denatured alcohol again and freezing it for a few days to separate the waxes, pouring off the top liquid and finish processing the oil for my edibles.
When I make a batch of lollipops or candy or anything, I use 1 gram to make about 22 treats. They are strong. I can't eat a whole one. Most of my patients take a quarter of a edible every 4 hours if they want to stay awake. Most people who eat a whole one falls asleep with in 1-2 hours as they can't stay awake anymore and will sleep like a rock for 8 to 12 hours.
People are asking me to give a measurement of the strength.

I use 2 pounds of trim, minimal fan leaves, to yield 2 ounces of oil from 2 extractions, using 2 gallons of denatured alcohol.

I was reading some people's claims of "65mg THC per a 420 bar" and "120 mg in a brownie", and "2.8gm cannabis in a cookie" and "70 to 175 mg THC in a Cheeba Chew" claiming to be lab tested.

I am using an average of 45mg of oil in one edible. I can't imagine anyone taking more at a time.

What can I assume my oil strength is? Does anyone have any input as to claims of strength? Is there an established strength of a dose?

Sleepy suggests the possibility of high CBN, and the ratio of the cannabinoids to each other varies with strain, but with the typical high THC recreational strain, the THC winterized should be in the high 80's/mid 90's, and 100 mg is what we've found to be a good average standard dose.

If you don't know what the person's tolerance is, 25/30mg is a better starting point, from which to titrate up. There are some ultra low tolerance folks out there, regardless of what the average person takes.

We've also found 300mg about the upper limit for high tolerance folks. Not that they can't tolerate three times that much before nodding off, but there are little if any added benefits above 300 mg.

 

[BredForMeds]

I love letting strains go too long....early harvest creates a medicine that give me anxiety! Sours especially!

lol I like my plants to be DONE before I cut them.. patience is the key to growing good herbs. period.. this is why everyone needs a 60-100 X Microscope.. and patience

 

[Nickog]

Thanks to all. I work with close trim, not bud, and I no longer grow. Any recommendations of labs to use in So. Cal or kits I get via the mail for me to do in my kitchen?

 

[TheCleanGame]

Thanks to all. I work with close trim, not bud

That explains the increased CBN.

Keep it Clean!

 

[PenZenMaster]

10 Mg Serving Limit

10 Mg Serving Limit

@pzm is true that with 502 edible are limited to 100mg?

Single Serving 10 Mg THC

Oh it's lower than that. The proposed regulations are 10 Mg THC per serving and (m)edibles must be packaged in single serving sizes. So I'm not sure how much fun kids think they are going to have with the new recreational marijuana, but I hope 10 Mg isn't that much at all.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Single Serving 10 Mg THC

Oh it's lower than that. The proposed regulations are 10 Mg THC per serving and (m)edibles must be packaged in single serving sizes. So I'm not sure how much fun kids think they are going to have with the new recreational marijuana, but I hope 10 Mg isn't that much at all.

10 mg per serving and 10 servings per container for medibles in WA, or 100 mg.

100 mg is around a standard dose, so it looks like they are trying to protect the low tolerance users.

Vaporization concentrates can be up to a gram a package.