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orthophosphoric acid and Polyphosphoric Acid

shaggyballs

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Anyone use this product?
 

Only Ornamental

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http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/li...rtophospho.asp
What type of reaction do these cause in our favorite plant.

Flushing agent maybe????
ROFLMFAO!!!! You can't be serious.... you should post that in the joke thread or you may also test Baunscheidtism on your grow ;) .

Just my :2cents: :
A: Usually, there's no free acid in fertiliser but rather salts (e.g. phosphates, hydrogen/dihydrogen phosphates)
B: Another difference of poly- versus orthophosphoric acid is the lack of one or two acidic protons per phosphor atom. This changes acidity and the amount of metal 'being bound as salt'. This way, one can better play around with proportions (i.e. N:p:K:Mg) and pH.
C:
About two-thirds of the phosphate in liquids ... is in the polyphosphate form. Most dry fertilizers ... liquids have phosphate in the ortho form
Sure about that? I suppose it's the other way round because polyphosphates hydrolyse over time whereas their physical properties seem advantageous for pellet formation etc.
D: I don't really get what you want to tell us by your collage... what's the message?
 

shaggyballs

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I don't really get what you want to tell us by your collage... what's the message?

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Anyone use this product?

That was also background info on the product in question.

And I hope to open the subject for peaceful dialog.:tiphat:

Please add more of what you know of this subject.

I have been studying it for a little while.
The only thing I see is a highly available form of phosphorus.
 

Only Ornamental

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...
And I hope to open the subject for peaceful dialog.:tiphat:
...
The only thing I see is a highly available form of phosphorus.

I'm always peaceful... and sometimes a bit sarcastic...

Polyphosphates have been found as a storage form of phosphate in several plants; that doesn't make them better suited as fertilise.
Good phosphate availability over the whole cannabis-friendly pH spectrum and the ease of supplementing more makes an expensive alternative pointless ;) .
I can't imagine (though I don't know) that your plants would thrive better with polyphosphate instead of orthophosphate. But I can imagine easily that you (no offense!) mess up the whole nutrient/pH schedule when trying to replace one with the other.
 

shaggyballs

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Thanks
I understand.
This was my line of thought also.
But there is some mystery about it that I was attracted to.
WAS
Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
I think this thread is dead now!:tiphat:
 

shaggyballs

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Anyone use drip clean or the like?
Only one contributor to this thread.
No response in 6 years.

Do you still wonder why I don't discuss growing.
No contribution from other Icmag members.
I seek knowledge, I doubt there is any to be found here anymore...
 
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