Colorado Growers Thread

[Eureka Springs Organics]

There needs to be a change to where growers can sell to retail outlets "legally."

It is the only way quality will up.

 

[dupester]

There needs to be a change to where growers can sell to retail outlets "legally."

It is the only way quality will up.

growers can sell to retailers! get a license!

 

[dupester]

from what I have been told, dispensaries can only sell seeds that they produce themselves

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

growers can sell to retailers! get a license!

I didn't think home growers could do that "legally." I thought that caregivers, and higher plant count growers could not sell to the stores.

Do you have documentation for this? If this is true then why don't I see more quality herb in the dispensaries?

Street prices are higher?

 

[Avinash.miles]

There needs to be a change to where growers can sell to retail outlets "legally."

It is the only way quality will up.

the double edged sword of that argument (im just playing devils advocate here) is that the way it is now the dispensaries and rec shops grow their own primarily therefore the source can be tracked and tested and regulated properly....
shops taking herb from home growers must take home growers word on growing techniques and ethics....

does that make sense?
basically a home grower can dump miracle grow and chem pesticides on their herb then sell it to a shop, say it's organic, and the shop has few options but trust the grower or buy from another grower they do trust....

i agree that if an avenue was created for home growers to sell to shops the quality of shops herb would increase, definitely....

growers can sell to retailers! get a license!

yhea.... that.....
is not how it works,
please read the new rec and med rules, and inform yourself,
that'd be greeat.

 

[Jhhnn]

There needs to be a change to where growers can sell to retail outlets "legally."

It is the only way quality will up.

It's pretty screwy atm, but at least med growers get to keep what they have.

The price of entry into the retail side of it is very high, the price that venture capital is willing to pay for the inside track. That's just the truth, and it was good to have them on our side to help pass A64.

OTOH, all the weed currently for retail sale was grown under the med system, then assigned to retail in a one time transfer of 15% of inventory. As a practical matter of meeting demand, that may need to be modified. The current situation of long lines & waits is OK because it's all novel & new, but it just won't do in the long run. It's not necessary. Nobody needs the aggravation. We need more outlets with more product, with reasonable rules & regs to accomplish that. If the system fails to deliver, then the black market will continue to do so.

Ideally, I'd like to see an integrated system that leaves all the players all their options, from caregivers to mega-growers. Legally grown cannabis would be just that, from seed to sale, with the only difference between med & rec being taxes at the point of sale.

 

[krustallos]

Oh, please. Colorado's dual source plan, grow your own or buy retail/medical provides the best current extant situation for cannabis lovers. It's the only place in the world where both growing & buying are state legal, giving consumers the widest choices & availability.

We plan to use retail for sampling a wider variety of genetics than we can practically grow in a reasonable amount of time. Lots of Coloradans formerly disconnected from modern cannabis will be doing the same thing both for the purposes of identifying what they want to grow & what they want to smoke in the future.

Not everybody can grow their own (or enough of their own) for a variety of reasons. But they have the same right to legal cannabis as those who grow, so taxable retail cannabis is a necessary part of the equation. It's the price of legalization.

It's a whole new paradigm, a whole new way of looking at it that gets cannabis on the legal side of the fence. Obviously, compromises were made to make that happen, but tokers still win big, very big.

In Colorado, we're legit, over the pass, rolling down the easy side, free of all the bullshit endured to get there. Well, other than the baggage we bring along.

Perfect? Nah, but it's entirely liveable and doable for everybody, stoned & straight alike, and a helluva big improvement all around. It's an opportunity to open our minds to even greater awakening.

Once this all settles in over the next few years, once the new non-threatening reality comes into being I think there will be more favorable change down the road. The reality of legal weed will simply overwhelm the threatening stereotypes promulgated in the WoD and its predecessors. That's not who tokers are, never were, and this coming out of sorts lets us show the world more of the truth. Life in Colorado will go on, mostly unchanged except for the better.

It's a chance to heal some of the damage of the "Righteous Us" vs "Wicked Them" Paradigm all too common in this country. It's a chance for people to look a little deeper, too, and to see how we're manipulated into that societally destructive headset all too often.

My comment was made to the guy who grows for the dispensary and gets 50% of the price. Not a comment meant for the entire state.

I didn't think home growers could do that "legally." I thought that caregivers , and higher plant count growers could not sell to the store.

Do you have documentation for this? If this is true then why don't I see more quality herb in the dispensaries?

Street prices are higher?

Sadly, you are correct. And higher plant count growers... ask a lawyer about that one.

But hey... there are bigger fish to fry.. most of the time.

 

[ubi]

i do grow my own. and i might i say i love smoking my own. but i also love variety. and well i do tend to run out. for one reason or another.
and when i can end up paying 52 bucks for a zip. and it can be all in 1/8s. YEA i think i ll try some of the strains i m growin. as for concentrates they have a co2 machine 15 a g isnt too bad either. . there is a limit tho.......... i dont like limits

and as for a wage..................................... yea it sux.
but thats temporary.. for now.
i made more practicing my previous trade.

also like the garden krustallos!

 

[2 Legal Co]

i do grow my own. and i might i say i love smoking my own. but i also love variety. and well i do tend to run out. for one reason or another.
and when i can end up paying 52 bucks for a zip. and it can be all in 1/8s. YEA i think i ll try some of the strains i m growin. as for concentrates they have a co2 machine 15 a g isnt too bad either. . there is a limit tho.......... i dont like limits

and as for a wage..................................... yea it sux.
but thats temporary.. for now.
i made more practicing my previous trade.

also like the garden krustallos!

At $52/oz, I probably wouldn't worry about a personal garden, too much. If they grow appropriately.

NOW, if they didn't require that you do 'actual' work......be about right.

How many strains, they grow?

 

[BredForMeds]

is there a lot of jobs down there in grows.. where you can actually make good money working for someone else? or is it all the same everywere.. I bunch of underpaid over worked employees?

I wanted to move down there to get into the scene I don't care if im growing. cloning.. buying buds from others for the dispensary.. whatever I don't care.. I do great at everything I do that has anything to do with this beautiful plant. I just want to get a job with something I love.. and then ill grow my own at home to supply my habit.!

 

[Lesterburnum]

If you get a local license you can apply for the state license, to grow, or sell. Each is a separate license, if memory serves me. Once you have the licenses from local and state you can grow. Then sell your wares to the shops that want to buy it for whatever prices.
You will have to pay the 15% wholesale to retail tax. You wont be locked in by regulation to sell to any specific shop. Just like an open capitalist market, kind of.
Haha
I agree that with Eureka that if more of the growers were able to get licensed and sell to whatever store wanted to buy, that selection would probably be better.
Lates

 

[NorCalDreaming]

There needs to be a change to where growers can sell to retail outlets "legally."

It is the only way quality will up.

I was just in CO visiting a friend who played a big part in helping his county write guidelines for medical. If I'm remembering correctly he said the state is currently looking at modifying the writing for the retail aspect of the canna business to make it easier for growers to sell to retail shops.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] is there a lot of jobs down there in grows.. where you can actually make good money working for someone else? or is it all the same everywere.. I bunch of underpaid over worked employees?[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I heard of one place that was paying $750 per lb to a grower onsite yet they just changed that position(s) to salary[/FONT]. Another place is offering growers $1000 per lb for offsite growing and they also pay your rent, elec and supply costs.

A few peeps in CO have 'keys' for growing and are basically independents.

I'm new to the CO scene and hoping to get out there within a few months to get involved. Luckily I have some good connections.

 

[Pimpmasterdlx]

So.... Is vending making a comeback?

 

[JohnnyATL]

seems like alot of hoops to jump just to sell my leftover budder and wax to a shop

 

[Avinash.miles]

lesterburum:
just so yall understand, there will be NO new rec licenses issued untill 2016, untill then only those who held their MED license prior to oct 2012;
so even IF you did get a new med license (or purchased an existing one after oct 2012) you could only sell to MED shops NOT REC.

and fyi, the licensing process is SERIOUS, not "just anyone" can get one, the state is kinda selective, especially when giving out NEW licenses... it'd be easier (and alot more expensive) to just buy an existing license holder out.

NO "vending" is not making a comeback, (don't expect it too either!)
no you can't bring in your extra herb or wax to sell to a shop,
no there is not an easy and legal way to be able to sell to shops.

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

lesterburum:
just so yall understand, there will be NO new rec licenses issued untill 2016, untill then only those who held their MED license prior to oct 2012;
so even IF you did get a new med license (or purchased an existing one after oct 2012) you could only sell to MED shops NOT REC.

and fyi, the licensing process is SERIOUS, not "just anyone" can get one, the state is kinda selective, especially when giving out NEW licenses... it'd be easier (and alot more expensive) to just buy an existing license holder out.

NO "vending" is not making a comeback, (don't expect it too either!)
no you can't bring in your extra herb or wax to sell to a shop,
no there is not an easy and legal way to be able to sell to shops.

Damn! You foiled my get rich quick scheme.

 

[NorCalDreaming]

lesterburum:
just so yall understand, there will be NO new rec licenses issued untill 2016, untill then only those who held their MED license prior to oct 2012;
so even IF you did get a new med license (or purchased an existing one after oct 2012) you could only sell to MED shops NOT REC.

and fyi, the licensing process is SERIOUS, not "just anyone" can get one, the state is kinda selective, especially when giving out NEW licenses... it'd be easier (and alot more expensive) to just buy an existing license holder out.

True that from what I've been told. I'd just be riding someone's coattails. Only discrepancy I've been told is that new recreational licenses can be applied for by anyone not currently holding a medical license after June 2014. I did read though that's it's 2016 so have to inquire further about that.

An old friend did buy out a CO med establishment not too long back and through hard work and some luck with what happened in the area their business has grown about 400%. It was a great investment.

 

[Lesterburnum]

Avinash: I didn't know that part thanks. I knew they are giving med holders the first crack at filling the first rec stores.
Yeah the licensing is insane. I did read the new audit report states that they need to expedite the process and maybe loosen things up, like putting check responsibility on the employer.

 

[Lesterburnum]

thats what i thought it was too norcal. after 2014 you can apply.

 

[Lesterburnum]

what really sucks is the background check. hahaha