Grow House wiring and electrical Guru's Needed

[urbangroop]

Hello,
Ive come across a small home in the mountains in which I would like to strictly grow out of.
The wiring on the place is pretty simple as it is a trailer.
Heres a few pics of the electrical [Below]
The breaker box has a dual connected breaker [Not sure how many volts per breaker. Im guessing 120V per line.
Their is also a 240V dryer hook up. Im wondering if there is anyway I can buy some sort of converter box that will plug into the dryer hookup and have several regular 120V plug ins on the other end.
Also how many 1000Watters can I run of a 240V line if I can find a converter box?
Thanks in Advance

 

[urbangroop]

I have found a few things thus far
http://www.hidhut.com/amp-timer-box-p-661.html?osCsid=4b93adea4ffcf4c9ba3bae4756e90c1e
This is one however I dont wanna spend that much if I can make my own
which would be something like this
http://www.hydroponics.net/learn/grow-light-controller.asp
However I also want something that I dont have to keep unplugging lights when I want to dry a load of clothes

 

[AloeRuss]

OP - I am not an electrician but I have seen few of them building those boxes for a pennies versus hundreds of dollars in Home Depot.
I also know that Home Depot have an instruction book on how to do this.
Is bringing an electrician to your house would be a problem? You don't want to do something wrong or different where it stops in the middle of the grow.

Your call though... Check that electrical book in home depot.
Also, the guys at Lowes are very good at helping and showing stuff like that.

I know. I wasnt much help

 

[urbangroop]

As theres already a grow room in back of closet having an electrician is a no go.

 

[AloeRuss]

Shut.. If you were in SoCal, I could help. Have an electrician i trust on retainer.

Sorry bro.

 

[mowood3479]

Is there a breaker for the 240v dryer line? Is it in a seperate box?
It doesnt seem like thats a enough 2 circuits/breakers even for a trailer..

 

[RetroGrow]

This thread by Phillthy is a good place to learn everything you need to know about electrical. There are several experts there who can answer any of your questions.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=117867

 

[justanotherbozo]

...if you take the time to educate yourself on how the 'search' function works here you can save yourself a lot of future waiting, ...for example, you needn't have waited the three and a half hours since you posted your request, instead you could have spent those hours studying up on growroom electricals and how to work with them safely. (check out the sticky's near the top and you'll see the one pertaining to electricals)

Growroom Designs & Equipment

...and i'm not criticizing bro so don't take offense, i'm suggesting to you you'll learn a LOT faster if you learn to fish for your answers rather than just dropping a line in the water and hoping for a bite, as it were.

...keep in mind that as new as this is to you, it AIN'T new so do yourself a favor and explore a little, start by clicking the 'Forums' button up at the top left, that will take you to the page listing all the main sub-forums and many of these have other sub-forums so do some exploring and familiarize yourself with the layout and where most of the important stuff is located, otherwise you are gonna be doing a LOT of waiting these next few years.

good luck, bozo

 

[flyer81]

Are the wires coming in from the top in the picture of the electrical box? If so, those look to be some pretty good sized 4 or 6 gauge wires. The size of the wiring really is what determines how much power you have available. That is where you should start.

As others have said, do a lot of research on this topic. There is A LOT of information on household electronics available on the internet. This is one area where you want to do it 100% right the first time. The result of not doing it 100% right the first time is potentially a fire and your house burning down. Which usually results in fire department followed by the cops when they see that its a grow op that started the fire.

Do it right the first time. And that just requires reading. Youtube and some googling is where I learned.

 

[urbangroop]

The lines in the house standard gauge however big that is. The thing that worries me is like stated above^^^^^ the power box only shows the 2 breakers for the Trailer. However on the bottom is the dryer line which is running 240V. which after doing some research is capable of running 10+ HPS lights. I did not see a breaker box for the dryer line while looking around.
This is the best thing I could find so far and also has a built in Timer. The price is another thing.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002KNHBFM...TF8&colid=3BRTYLNLV1Y3O&coliid=I2ZVE4N2CY4XF1

It is everything I need.
Id be interested in SOME MORE OPINIONS!
Thanks again!

 

[xmobotx]

there has to be a separate load center in the trailer. the pic is the pedestal. it looks like the circuit breaker in that box is the breaker for that 240v outlet in that box & it's the only thing in there. look for conduit going from the pedestal to the trailer & go inside where it goes through the wall.

 

[justanotherbozo]

Id be interested in SOME MORE OPINIONS!
Thanks again!

in my opinion you would do well to actually check the links to the electrical thread, where all the electrical experts would most likely be found, which has been posted above by myself and RetroGrow.

...actually, RetroGrow made it too easy by linking to the actuall thread, MY link only leads you to the builders forum, it would have been up to you to actually read the word 'electrical' to know which link to click.

keep in mind that many who come here don't come here very often any more and so they may just log in to check for pm's and subscribed threads so if someone posts in the 'electrical' thread that they are subscribed to, they'll know it but if someone starts a NEW thread, as you have done, they WON'T know it.

...and that's not to mention the fact that the answers to your questions are almost certainly either contained in that thread OR the folks with the answers you need can be found there.

...btw, you're welcome.

bozo

 

[urbangroop]

X-Mob
Hey thanks for the words of wisdom sir.
I think you are right there probably is some sort of box inside. But the outside box is where the power comes from and usually does tell you what is running in the place as far as the amps going in.

 

[urbangroop]

I was not going to respond to you there B. Since u insist on trying to accomplish whatever it is you are trying to accomplish[of what I have no Idea of]. Heres a quote for you to sit and ponder friend.


Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
PLATO

 

[callahanman]

Hello,
Ive come across a small home in the mountains in which I would like to strictly grow out of.
The wiring on the place is pretty simple as it is a trailer.
Heres a few pics of the electrical [Below]
The breaker box has a dual connected breaker [Not sure how many volts per breaker. Im guessing 120V per line.
Their is also a 240V dryer hook up. Im wondering if there is anyway I can buy some sort of converter box that will plug into the dryer hookup and have several regular 120V plug ins on the other end.
Also how many 1000Watters can I run of a 240V line if I can find a converter box?
Thanks in Advance

Question:
Is the trailer fed by the line plugged into the panel?
Or is the plug in the panel for the dryer hookup?

 

[MrCopyZ]

What you have their is a 120/240 VAC Standard Circuit Breaker wired to a 240 v receptacle. Each of the wires on either side of the breaker will be carrying 120v. Which means inside your 240v receptical their are 2 x 120v holes, a Neutral hole, and a Ground hole.

Aside from all of this. What I can tell is that you could simply replace all of that with 2 x 120VAC Standard Circuit Breaker. Use one of the knockouts in the bottom or side of the box to stub out with some pipe and install a Weatherproof 2 gang box with GFCI receptacles and cover.

That is if you wanted to keep power right their.
Otherwise I would just dig a trench and run 12/2 NM-B inside of a PVC pipe to wherever I wanted it to go(make sure you glue pipes together even though their not full of water, we want to keep the area inside dry and clean) and then install a couple recepticals.

With either of these setups your going to be pretty limited, UNLESS!

You get a larger breaker panel.
At which point I would suggest you buy a cheap book at home depot on how to do electrical.

As to how many lights you can run. You will need to look at amperage loads for your equipment and make sure not to overload each breaker. Else they could trip it in the normal functioning of the system.

The converter you were looking at only handles 60 amps BTW. Do you know what amperage your breaker is? Could be alot more or alot less, both would cause problems. So really you could do alot more with alot less money my way.

Also I don't see where the service line for your trailer is. Unless its what is plugged into the 240 receptical, but you said that was a dryer...

Is this a mobile home or camper trailer type thing? Somehow the building is getting power like xmobotx said. So... do you have power in the trailer? Does the breaker you photographed affect power supply inside? I am not sure what you have going on over their...