maxibloom, protekt, moab. Add liquid koolbloom and nuts?

[psychoslim]

Hello
I am starting a new run with maxibloom, protekt, and tap water.
I am running a 400 watt hps for flower, so I feel I might benefit from a bloom booster. I found that mad farmer was sending full sample packs including 100 grams of MOAB, for the cost of shipping, so I snagged it. I am also considering the nuts product from the line since I will be getting it for free but have not used fulvic acid before, and was curious if anyone has experience using this or a similar supplement. I plan to run Moab for the first week to encourage more node sites, and I am going to run it the last two weeks before flush. I have not used this product anyone have any experience with maxibloom? Any dosage recommendations? I was also curios if you more experienced maxibloomers out there think I may also benifit from running liquid koolbloom in between the Moab cycles? My girls are hungry heavy feeders. Thanks and I look forward to hearing your guys input!

 

[AloeRuss]

If they are hungry you may want to look into H&G Shooting Powder. I pay $48 for a box but This stuff worth every penny.
Buds simply double in size.
MOAB in the beginning is a good idea though.

 

[psychoslim]

Thanks, but I think I am going to skip the liquid koolbloom. I have been hanging out in the K.I.S.S. area so I don't really want to get carried away with the nutes. I still might be tempted to use some of the stuff I get from mad farmer. A little bit of free samples can go a long way though. Still curious about how fulvic acid reacts with the maxi or how to handle it. I can't wait to see what this nut regim will do in a ebb and flo with co2 injection and a 400watt hps in a sealed 2x3x6 chamber. I am thinking a topping and then lst.

 

[RonSmooth]

Good idea.

Maxibloom is all you need. I have even stopped using cal-mag and I use tap water that reads around 60ppm. (I use protekt as a pH up as well)

Those bloom boosters are just high PK fertilizers. They will have zero effect if you are providing enough in the first place (which MB does). Plants only use what they need. Adding more does nothing but load your medium with salts.

Use only MB and whatever pH up you use. Keep it simple. If you develop deficiencies, you can supplement, add and mix all you want but try just the MB first.

 

[psychoslim]

Thanks. I forgot I threw a lids worth of superthrive and 2tsp of rapid start in my res since I wanted to see if I can truly go from seed to cut with the full dose of MB, and I had it laying around. The rapid start really does make a difference, not enough to buy it in my opinion but I love my free samples The little ones are only a little over a week and have been in for a couple of days now and haven't been burnt to tarnations and look like they should. I can't wait to see what happens when they start taking up the nutes. I am at around 1000ppm and so far so good. I even sown a few seeds in the perlite just to see if they will germ and grow in full strength. I know the MOAB will stress the plant a bit and will encourage more bud sites if used in the first week of bloom, and I am hoping to get some foxtailing with it as a finisher. I might use the flush coming with the samples for an hour or two rinse, then for flush I think I am going to run the fulvic acid and molasses. and I meant 2x4x6. Last run I went with the roots organics, and while it tastes good I am thoroughly unimpressed. That was in sunshine mix adv 4 hand watered tho.

 

[Joseph29]

Maxibloom, floralicious plus and heavy 16 roots. Perfect combo. IF you want want to add bloom boosters liquid koolbloom is cheap and works well and then finish with moab. 1tsp maxibloom, 20 drops of floralicious plus and 20 drops of heavy roots per gallon. The floralicious plus will add a lot of quality to your buds and its CHEAP!!

 

[AloeRuss]

OP - let me tell you that doing KISS is the best thing you can do if you are not sure what each nute is for and precisely going to do for you.
I am very glad you decided for kiss. You will save a lot and your flowers will thank you for it.

Good luck

 

[psychoslim]

hmmm. the heavy 16 roots is too pricey for me but thanks. It seems by the ingredients that floralicious plus may be a great additive for a flavor builder, if its really cheap or a sample can be had I might give that one a try. Thanks! This is not my first grow, and I understand guaranteed analysis, I just think the maxi might need a little help to reach peak since I have a small light. If I had a 600 or larger I would add nothing. any input on the fulvic acid with black strap for a 1 week to 2 week flush?

 

[psychoslim]

after reading a bit more of the label better, I think I am going to avoid flora +, because I want to keep a sterile res. I think I am going to focus my flush on flavor building. Every time I think about adding something to the maxi, I read the label again and decide the plants already have what they need Trying to break the bottle happy days of roots organics, which is ok, but real organics is better. I think I want to just get a baseline of what maxi dose this time. The super thrive is good stuff, I think it has B1 in it and some amino acids and is a pesticide.

 

[RonSmooth]

hmmm. the heavy 16 roots is too pricey for me but thanks. It seems by the ingredients that floralicious plus may be a great additive for a flavor builder, if its really cheap or a sample can be had I might give that one a try. Thanks! This is not my first grow, and I understand guaranteed analysis, I just think the maxi might need a little help to reach peak since I have a small light. If I had a 600 or larger I would add nothing. any input on the fulvic acid with black strap for a 1 week to 2 week flush?

Not too familiar with fulvic acid but the molasses is one of the great cannabis placebo effects in action. Especially during a "flushing" period. Drop the molasses and youre plants will be none the wiser.

I can not see how any additive could affect flavor unless you sprayed some cherry flavoring on the finished bud. The plant has all that stuff built into its genetics. If you provide a good environment and meet nutritional needs, it will reach its potential. If its not there, nothing is going to make it appear.

I think you are getting the light intensity/nutrient requirement thing reversed. A plant will use more nutrients when it gets the optimal lighting. If there is inadequate lighting, it will use less nutrients as photosynthesis is not at its peak and therefore, nutritional needs will be lessened.

Giving a plant more food to make up for less than optimal environment wont work. Youll end up wasting nutrients at the least and causing toxic salt buildup at the worst.

Just try the maxibloom alone. If the plants show deficiencies, you can add other products. If the plant is healthy, adding things does nothing without an increase in other environmental factors i.e, light, CO2, etc.

 

[psychoslim]

Thanks Ron, you made a lot of good points and helped me make sense of a lot of information. I am just going to flush with cold water. The idea behind the fulvic was to help promote the sugars to break down easier to help the plants uptake more of the nutrients and minerals in the the blackstrap. This is pointless because the uptake of nutrients in this part of the plants cycle is quite low.