Bangladesh Sativa

[ftg150]

Randy, I grew a few of them a couple years ago... I only vegged about 1-1.5 months, the final product was not very potent. Flowered them from 14-16 weeks. I did end up with a male of the indica-looking pheno, which I kept for pollen. I recently grew some lemon haze x bangladesh and some strawberry cough x bangladesh... The lemonhaze x bangy(12-14weeks) was probably my favorite smoke of my last run. It definitely inherited a lot of the lemon haze potency and trich's but had a unique lemon pepper flavor and was a very enjoyable daytime smoke. The SCxBangy(15 weeks) developed a huge cola and had a light fruity flavor... They are the reasons I would really like to grow the bangi's again... If the pure comes out not-so-great again, I will at least have more pollen to make more crosses. Certainly unique genetics which can lend themselves to new hybrids, and there may be trich's hiding somewhere in there

I definitely want to find a female of the stout indica looking pheno(which fathered all my seeds, think I lost the rest of the original'd from loader) and see how that comes out...

 

[ftg150]

First is bangi x sc, second is two bangi x LH's(the one on the right being a 12 weeker, then one of the very left being a 14 weeker... the cola in the middle is some super silver cross i believe)

 

[Bud Green]

So far the two females in flower, one for 8 weeks the other for 4 weeks both do not have one trichome anywhere on the plant. I don't ever remember seeing a female so fully into flower and not have any resin. All the plants around them are covered in varying amounts of resin.
It's just weird, but it is what it is.

Randy, I just found this thread this morning, and read it in its entirety with great interest.... I posted 2 pics a few weeks ago of a
"long and loose and stringy" sativa I grew 3 years ago. (You repped it as "spicey looking")
My plant also did not show trich's for many weeks...I'm just below 36N lat., so my photoperiod does not change as much as yours, but it does change way more than where sativas originate...
I had attributed my photoperiod to my baby being loose and stringy,, but did not figure out why the trich's showed themselves so late... I just left her in the ground until late November, and only gave her the axe then because of a killer frost that was predicted.
Unfortunately, that year I had no pollen, so I lost her forever.
Anyway, good luck with your project.. Hope you can learn something or gain some other insight from it..

 

[RandyCalifornia]

Sorry to leave this thread hanging. Under the circumstances and space being as it is I terminated the project a while back. The plants were beautiful, went 18-20 weeks and ended up not being any good. The smell was very slight in both females and the smoke was hay, I hate for projects that take this long to end like this, especially when the plants grew and looked so good. I saw no point in replicating these seeds or even growing them out again to further evaluate their qualities, they did not have much going on.

 

[vapor]

Some times it takes a wack of seed and you see not to much. I have a few longer girls going and i can tell that a few of them are rope the nice ones usually have a wicked smell by 10 weeks flower, but you have to try them all cause some of those plants can be sneaky. Crosses may be where the genetics get a chance to shine. Takes time to find/build a winner. keep looking!

 

[chappie]

DJ Short has a lot to say about getting sativa results indoors, you may want to read up on it... in "short" use halide lights if possible, and 11/13 light-dark instead of the usual 12/12. Also make sure the soil is fairly lean on nutrient, and be patient!

Thanks for taking a stab. If you do want a good indoor sativa, I enjoyed Chimera's Highland Mex X BB a great deal. Not 8 hours of insanity, but a very very nice upbeat, joyous daytime effect.

 

[vapor]

I dont buy the light on food for "sativas" From what i have experienced some like loads of food and some not so much, mostly it is a matter of pot size and light strength/ length of flower time. They all do the burst{berffing} thing at different times, some near the mid flower some near the very end. If you want to grow good sativas, grow them and experiment. We dont see a lot of long flowering plants in our modern society, thats a shame. There are folks who are just growers and grow and will always do that so flowering time whatevers. live long smoke lotsa!

 

[RandyCalifornia]

Thanks Chappie, for the kind advice. I have read DJ's book lots of good info in there.
I have many great sativas already that's why I saw no point on working with one that did not have anything to add.
Thank you also Vapor. I agree, some sativas love to eat.
I usually run anything that shows me something to get excited about several times and I run all the runts and males too, if they had even given me a hint of something worth chasing I would have been all over it.
It's on to the Zamal which is showing me everything I've been looking for and to me is worth getting excited about. It even has the legend status.
I have a good feeling about 2014, good things are coming our way.

 

[TheFlyinHaWyn!]

had a good time with our friend my brother. good times you on the right track my brother. the world will be crying out for all kinds of weeds, not just the smelliots and urkles although I will still smoke the shit outta all of it. take care brother, keep it rocking, and see you next time bumbye shoots aloha a hui hou, malama pono

 

[RandyCalifornia]

Hey Aloha, brother! Sounds like good times, Wish I was there.
Ke Akua pu a hui hou, for sure.

 

[wildgrow]

Thanks for concluding the thread Randy. I always wonder what the outcome was when I see your handle.

 

[billyblog]

The plants were beautiful, went 16 weeks and ended up not being any good. The smell was very slight in both females and the smoke was hay, I hate for projects that take this long to end like this, especially when the plants grew and looked so good. I saw no point in replicating these seeds or even growing them out again to further evaluate their qualities, they did not have much going on.

Hey Randy,

But earlier in this thread, those in the know were saying she went 24 weeks. If you took them down at 16, that's cutting them short by an entire 2 months.
2 months extra flowering would surely have to make a huge difference to the outcome of a tropical sativa, especially if you're limiting your grow to lamps indoors.
Imagine cutting a haze short by that amount of time - you'd have hay for sure!

Perhaps you passed up on something really special because you just didn't have the patience but thanks for sharing your attempt with us anyway!

Pity you didn't get to make any beans of these so that someone could have tried their hand at doing them justice in a tropical environment. Does anyone know if there's anywhere you can still score these beans or are the genetics now lost forever?? I'd be prepared to swap some of my very best to get my hands on some of these.


billy

 

[RandyCalifornia]

yep well billy, just didn't work out like it was supposed to, I guess. It was as good as I could do under my circumstances.
I doubt that those were the last seeds out of Bangladesh though so don't give up your hopes.

 

[billyblog]

Also, if you'd gone 16 weeks and still hadn't begun pollinating for seeds as you had mentioned intending to do earlier in the thread, you were leaving the seed breeding way too late in the picture.

Perhaps you'd already decided against continuing with these somewhere considerably earlier than the 16 week mark?

That could possibly have been a bit early to draw conclusions with a slow flowering tropical sativa but then again, you don't live in a subtropical zone as I do and you're limitations to indoor growing must be taken into account.

Better luck with whatever you're growing now/next!


billy

 

[RandyCalifornia]

Also, if you'd gone 16 weeks and still hadn't begun pollinating for seeds as you had mentioned intending to do earlier in the thread, you were leaving the seed breeding way too late in the picture.

I was not going to breed them, I would have done a reproduction only. I grew them out and took cuts and kept them till I knew I was not going to do anything with them.
There were posts that others made with their results, some were negative also. I took them to their end, they were fully mature and smoke tested. If I thought they were worth reproducing I would have. But the conclusion I came to was that they were not. I am not into reproducing supposed legends without anything but an old tale to back them up.
You do what you think and I do what I think. Don't come in here with your negative crap and try to tell me how to do my thing.

 

[RandyCalifornia]

Oh, and when they were finished they were full of seeds(hermi), but I gave them to the birds because that's all they were worth. how do you like them apples.
Sorry the legend did not live up to the hype for you.

 

[Adze]

Personally I respect your honesty in giving the rare criticism of certain strains. Your generous contributions here speak for themselves. If you say it’s bird feed, then I’m damn well inclined to think that you’re right.
Happy New Year and keep doing your thing.

 

[billyblog]

I took them to their end, they were fully mature and smoke tested.
Don't come in here with your negative crap and try to tell me how to do my thing.

Heya Randy,

That really wasn't quite appropriate, man! I didn't actually give you any "negative crap" and I do have every right to make contributions to the boards. I live in the subtropics and have grown tropical sativas since the 70's and know that equatorial sativas have to be given their full time and that lamps are no substitute for sunshine, yet alone tropical sunshine.

You never matured them out properly if you've cut them short by 2 months but what I'm saying isn't negative. It's not in the nature of some equatorial sativas to perform under lamps. They might appear to veg ok but maturing them to the point of them showing off their potency and their turpene profiles, is often another story. If you realised I was only giving you positive direction based on a wealth of experience, you might not have shot me.

I live in a major grow district where many growers congregated during the extension of the hippy revolution back in the early 70's. Many of them have 30 - 40+ years experience as professional growers and yet they always remain happy and eager to learn from one another. You're never too experienced to learn in this industry because there are so many variables to contend with.

You really don't need to feel wounded when someone is trying to point something out in order to improve your future successes. After all, isn't that what this place is supposed to be all about?

Being an ICMag Donor means I also give bulk free seed away to support the server fund and in order to get rare and sought after genetics out to the grow community. I am only here to make a positive contribution to the cannabis community and to help folk, NOT to take anyone down.

Much peace and every future success!!


billy

 

[RandyCalifornia]

You are questioning my methods and abilities, and putting a guilt trip on me for not preserving them, to me that is negative.
Since as you say you live in the tropics you cannot relate to what I am dealing with because I do not live in the tropics and cannot plant outside so you do your growing your way and I will do mine. Out here we have what are called power bills.
I am happy for your situation, in fact I am envious. I also want to live in the tropics and grow in great hippy communities.
Thank you for your generosity to IC members. I have done my own share of giving and spreading of love that I have experienced through the love and generosity of other.

Much peace to you brother, I hope you come up with some killer tropical sativa.

 

[billyblog]

Hey Randy,

My humble apologies, bro - no negativity was intended! It was good of you to give them the effort and time that you did. I can only imagine what power bills must do to the back pocket. If ever you'd like somewhere to stay in subtropical Oz, drop us a line by PM, come and stay a while and I'll introduce you to some of the best experiences we have to offer here on the subtropical mid east coast.


billy