Pollination while in veg

[Tonygreen]

Well I revegged some clones from late flower, as they cme out of it each branch at each node has like 1 calyx with pistils, kind of growing like preflowers would on a long vegged and mature plant.

So I thought maybe I can make some beans while they are in veg, kill 2 birds with one stone kinda heh. Ill post pics as it goes, looks like some of the pistils have shriveled, I wonder if I can get viable seeds this way, anyone else ever tried it?

 

[Jhhnn]

Well I revegged some clones from late flower, as they cme out of it each branch at each node has like 1 calyx with pistils, kind of growing like preflowers would on a long vegged and mature plant.

So I thought maybe I can make some beans while they are in veg, kill 2 birds with one stone kinda heh. Ill post pics as it goes, looks like some of the pistils have shriveled, I wonder if I can get viable seeds this way, anyone else ever tried it?

I wouldn't. OTOH, I have no experience with this. Pollinated annuals generally lose their vigor & die when pollinated, even when growth conditions are good. Its purpose in life has been fulfilled. It made seeds. Pollination changes plant chemistry, sends it in that direction, I think.

I suspect that the only reason re-vegging works is because the plants haven't been pollinated. As long as they're alive, that's what they want, and they keep trying to find a way.

 

[Ranger]

a single calyx does not a bud make. you would be wasting your pollen.

 

[Hammerhead]

The issue I see is that if your back on a 18/6 or more lighting schedule the seeds wont form properly or at all. you need to be in 12/12 for the seed to grow...They have to be in flower with the proper hormone levels.

 

[Tonygreen]

You could be right purple. I am hoping that the pollen sets off a chain reaction of hormones and the light only encourages massive production of calyx's.

Jh, I can see your train of thought but I can reveg a plant harvested for seed just fine, I have done that.

Should be a semi interesting test!

 

[mrrangz]

tonygreen,

from experience those one calyx sticking out can produce "seed". I had a plant produce a seed, no males around so i suspect pollen from an outside source via fans or a genetic mutation.

I saved the seed and just waiting for the right time to pop it.

I tried asking around local friends if they have experienced anything like this and got negative feedback. I couldn't find anything online either.

hope my experience helps

 

[mrrangz]

18/6 light schedule too

 

[Adze]

Tony,

If the plant is back into making leaves, has grown a bit, and still had white pistils then I think it may work just fine. Once the seed starts to form, I don’t believe the light period will stop them from maturing or slow it down much. Please go ahead with your experiment and let’s see. My bet is on viable seed, somewhat larger than usual.

 

[Jhhnn]

You could be right purple. I am hoping that the pollen sets off a chain reaction of hormones and the light only encourages massive production of calyx's.

Jh, I can see your train of thought but I can reveg a plant harvested for seed just fine, I have done that.

Should be a semi interesting test!

Thank you for that. I never realized that pollinated plants might reveg. I learned something.

 

[Tonygreen]

Ill post a pic soon, dusting a few more random hairs. We will know fairly quickly.

At this point one of the subjects has started poppin the first few reg leaves, the other one is still in single mode but stretching and growing.

TBH unsure if they are new calyx or still hangin on, I think new, the old ones have twisted and turned leaves or started too. When I reveg plants they will throw like a calyx or two when they are mature and start doing the every other node thing instead of double branches per node like early veg.

Smokin some afgani should be cool to see. Pics soon guys.

 

[Tonygreen]

Thank you for that. I never realized that pollinated plants might reveg. I learned something.

I just leave the bottom branches and nugs and stuff and go real light on the water till they come out, you can drown em easy.

 

[supermanlives]

yes I have I posted about it several times way back on og and here. plants that preflower heavily can be pollinated in veg and grow seeds.i have done this several times and grew out the seeds. no different than normal ones.i discovered this in the og days by accident. nobody seemed to care when I posted. for me it was interesting and a good way to make some seeds without messing with the flower area.seeds will def form and grow in veg area.you don't need 12/12, everyone is just guessing I have done it with 3 diff strains and it worked each time. I didn't think to compare seed size or rate of maturation compared to a 12/12 pollination so no help there. my guess is faster maturation but same size seed. I think my post here was pollination in veg, title but not sure. but I did tell everyone. I was exicted when I found out as there aint much I don't know about mj. but ya can always learn more... . EDIT couldn't find my posts so maybe I mentioned in in an unrelated thread here.but I know I mentioned it

 

[3rdEye]

tony go ahead and do it.

thanks for your experiences and sharing them supermanlives. Running a modified 12-5.5 cycle and a number of the polyhybrids i have are showing a decent number of pistillate flowers. I was thinking about hand pollinating for a couple dozen seeds. If i yield any useful observations i'll share them here.

 

[WelderDan]

Superman is 100% correct. Preflowers can be pollinated in veg and will produce a single seed per preflower. Also, that seed will be a big, fat one. Ever find a seed that's much bigger than the others? Likely a seeded preflower

 

[Tonygreen]

Yepper. (Sour DieselxBiker Kush) x Sour Bubble

18/6 lighting



I don't know if it is a coincidence but she exploded out of reveg with big fat giant fan leaves, an identical twin clone next to her that I didnt fuck with has much smaller leaf, made about 15-20 beans.

I am hypothesizing the process of germination caused some maturation hormones to be produced.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Nice Tony. I hope this helps sum things up........
A preflower can be pollinated and grow a seed. Ive done it to make a few beans.
I pollinated them with male pollin and not from a hermi ballsack on a female plant.

IMO, the hormones created from a 12/12 light schedule will produce the hormones to induce flowering. Once the hormones are there and the flowers are being produced, if its flipped back to re-veg, the plant will stop making the hormones necesary to flower, but once the calyx' are there, it doesnt need the hormones anymore. It did its job and created the calyx' needed. The seed will still grow fine.

Even the preflowers in veg can be hand pollinated while in 24/0 and create a seed. As long as there is a calyx with 2 white hairs in it, it can be seeded at any time. The plant doesnt need the hormones to grow a preflower calyx or a seed. It needs the hormones to grow flowers.