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Seed depot closing
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tylerdurden119
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im gutted. i sent in half my seed collection for auction to help with lawyer bill. never seen this coming in a million miles. even made a post in one of the threads the cannabio rep made saying it can't be so etc etc. guess its the old story if somethings too good to be true. blah blah blah. i frequent all the forums not regularly, but for the genetics. so they were very appealing to deal with. im still :O over it all and am pissed im out the $$ or the unsold beans. Worst year ever for me, shattered my femur-been on crutches for 8 mos now, got busted-gonna do some seroius time there and now this. id be more mad but im shell shocked i guess. just can't believe it
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I REALLLLLLY wish some of the breeders woulda brought this up in the summer when it first started happening. definitely would have changed my mind on sending in my collection.
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I REALLLLLLY wish some of the breeders woulda brought this up in the summer when it first started happening. definitely would have changed my mind on sending in my collection.
That really sucks tylerdurden119. I hope you can recover from last year as quick and painlessly as possible!
I was just thinking that I'm so glad I never sent in some of my collection to auction like I had contemplated! Then I read your post. I can't even imagine all the unsuspecting victims he took through that channel.
I was just thinking that I'm so glad I never sent in some of my collection to auction like I had contemplated! Then I read your post. I can't even imagine all the unsuspecting victims he took through that channel.
fwiw the rare darkness I bought were real dik about everything else I never bought too much from there
I just heard of yet another TSD customer with fraudulent charges on their CC from SPAIN....
I think it needs to be reiterated that anybody that has used a CC there, especially in recent times, needs to be aware of this problem.
This son of a bitch has already caused enough grief as is, let's not let it get worse as much as possible.
I hope karma is served and breeders are given what is rightfully theirs. But I at least hope karma does it's magic with this poor excuse of a man.
I think it needs to be reiterated that anybody that has used a CC there, especially in recent times, needs to be aware of this problem.
This son of a bitch has already caused enough grief as is, let's not let it get worse as much as possible.
I hope karma is served and breeders are given what is rightfully theirs. But I at least hope karma does it's magic with this poor excuse of a man.
Never spent a dime. Knew better. The way that biz was started told me all I needed to know. I feel sorry for those who didn't see any of that over at zon and WW. The way I saw the game playing out. Sad when Promises of Beautiful beans fall on Blind eye's. It makes for burned fingers. I thought it was strange how Red Eye and Ready pulled back after a huge out poor for his gear over there. And yet still saw him popping in and around over here.
Good For you brother.
I knew nothing about Ripz and that whole deal. So I had a really great relationship with MrC never once was I screwed over. Countless orders. But once I heard from a few friends about all the problems with the breeders not being paid I stopped ordering from there as well. Why risk it with this place and The Mug Shop places that have been at it for years. Does not make sense to me.
I can say to accuse Karmas a Bitch, Monster Drake/Batman, or HellRaiser30 to be apart of any of this nonsense is completely ridiculous. Known them cats for several years and have nothing to do with any RIpz/JB dealings about dank only. After beans for them selves and that's it. Never saw them sell or go around pushing any banks. Only talking about breeders and experiences. For me its about the show anyway not the tell.
Hippy420 now thats a whole different story. I think he knew cause he went from living on the web and at tsd to being gone for months. Then came back with personal reasons why he had not been online (girl troubles). I think he knew and was sick of all the banter from breeders he lured in there not getting paid. And here I gave that guy the benefit of the doubt after being so shady trying to build tsd. But I have to thank him as well from his actions I knew better then to waist/risk anything there.
Anyone who did not cancel the card they used there as soon as the site went down for so long the first time needs help. My god that's a no brainier in my book. Not that I would ever leave money on the table ordering from any bank or any ware online for that matter. That is just stupid.
Fake beans I would sing from the mountain tops if I even had a clue I got fake seeds or breeders packs from any ware. I do not know why there are not a million threads out there before all of this if that was going on.
I think it is just like high school a popularity contest. That place was doing so much traffic on the daily that everyone and anyone was over there plugin grows and gear. And it boiled down to deleted threads no censorship my ass. Then people thinking how can so many people be wrong. And to say the very least thats sad. If the customers do not watch out for each other. Then history will just repeat itself. I agree there should be a section here for people to post about dealings with seed banks. I would read up. Unless this MAGAZINE (no offense Skip I just want to be clear) is worried about any negative feedback about any places that this MAGAZINE FORUM has any personal interest in I do not see the problem. I know it is not this sites duties to help in this manner but it should be a concern for the over all community.
But hey lets do this again when JB/Ripz types pop up again on all the vulnerable seed whores and broken breeders out there.
Good For you brother.
I knew nothing about Ripz and that whole deal. So I had a really great relationship with MrC never once was I screwed over. Countless orders. But once I heard from a few friends about all the problems with the breeders not being paid I stopped ordering from there as well. Why risk it with this place and The Mug Shop places that have been at it for years. Does not make sense to me.
I can say to accuse Karmas a Bitch, Monster Drake/Batman, or HellRaiser30 to be apart of any of this nonsense is completely ridiculous. Known them cats for several years and have nothing to do with any RIpz/JB dealings about dank only. After beans for them selves and that's it. Never saw them sell or go around pushing any banks. Only talking about breeders and experiences. For me its about the show anyway not the tell.
Hippy420 now thats a whole different story. I think he knew cause he went from living on the web and at tsd to being gone for months. Then came back with personal reasons why he had not been online (girl troubles). I think he knew and was sick of all the banter from breeders he lured in there not getting paid. And here I gave that guy the benefit of the doubt after being so shady trying to build tsd. But I have to thank him as well from his actions I knew better then to waist/risk anything there.
Anyone who did not cancel the card they used there as soon as the site went down for so long the first time needs help. My god that's a no brainier in my book. Not that I would ever leave money on the table ordering from any bank or any ware online for that matter. That is just stupid.
Fake beans I would sing from the mountain tops if I even had a clue I got fake seeds or breeders packs from any ware. I do not know why there are not a million threads out there before all of this if that was going on.
I think it is just like high school a popularity contest. That place was doing so much traffic on the daily that everyone and anyone was over there plugin grows and gear. And it boiled down to deleted threads no censorship my ass. Then people thinking how can so many people be wrong. And to say the very least thats sad. If the customers do not watch out for each other. Then history will just repeat itself. I agree there should be a section here for people to post about dealings with seed banks. I would read up. Unless this MAGAZINE (no offense Skip I just want to be clear) is worried about any negative feedback about any places that this MAGAZINE FORUM has any personal interest in I do not see the problem. I know it is not this sites duties to help in this manner but it should be a concern for the over all community.
But hey lets do this again when JB/Ripz types pop up again on all the vulnerable seed whores and broken breeders out there.
Was told about this thread by a friend and had to come over and say something ..
I've never even been a member of the site in question so Idk why or how my name gets thrown into the hat. Too funny, but nice try.. and show me a link on any forum on the entire interwbz where I pimp the site in question, just one quote of mine where I ever said a good thing about this place, I dare anyone to find one , but it ain't gonna happen as like I've said, I was never even a member over there, and might have read the forum as a visitor maybe 5x's total, so yeah, w/e..
And thanks batman, I also understand that just because you're a mod on a site, yo don't really know much about who ever it is running the site, as after all this is the internet, and the way these things tend to work , and being the site and its admin where from one country, and most of its mods and members from another, how well do you really think k they knew each other ? Do you think they all flew into Spain once a month for staff meetings ffs?
Oh well, just wanted to chime in as I don't enjoy mud being slung my way when I'm an innocent bystander, and say thanks again to Batman skunk for speaking the truth.
Yea fwiw my Peyote Purple were real too! I never really cared for the bank side of it it was all about the community for me, and the mods didn't/don't have anything to do with the bs either, they keep the boards clean and they aren't even paid for it either, to lump them in with JB & Hippie420 is just ludicrous! Hippie's part in this is a different matter, either he knew and benefited from it or he knew and said nothing ....either way he knew something was wrong and didn't get the word out. He was the main recruiter over there and I'm sure when breeders couldn't reach JB with their issues he was the next to get a PM ....well my time online has been very educational, rip-off after rip-off, con artist after con artist I'm done, I've found better gear outta my hybrids and the ones I've traded peeps for anyway so it's whatever!!
floweryfield
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I know JB quite well, and therefore I don´t think that he is a conman. On the one hand he was undercapitalised, on the other hand he faced legal problems. Imho his greatest mistake was that he still ordered beans from breeders, although he must had known that his business would get bust because of his problems.
I would like to mention in this context that all seed selling platforms walk on very thin ice, if they ship to the US. Look at Colerado and Washington. If any licensed shop shipped to other states where the recreational use is still forbideen the DEA would bust them. Or have a look at Gypsy´s case. It´s clear that the seed business is legal in the UK, but he must have known that shipping seeds or teaming up with illegal breeders in the US is dangerous and that Federal authorities would catch him if they have a chance to do so.
Finally, this enormous outcry here on ICMAG is also understandable, as JB was fishing in the same pool. That was a mistake, because smart entrepreneurs set up their on thing and do not acquire customers from shops they have worked for. But this behavior does not justifiy to call him a conman or something like that as long as we do not know the genuine truth.
I would like to mention in this context that all seed selling platforms walk on very thin ice, if they ship to the US. Look at Colerado and Washington. If any licensed shop shipped to other states where the recreational use is still forbideen the DEA would bust them. Or have a look at Gypsy´s case. It´s clear that the seed business is legal in the UK, but he must have known that shipping seeds or teaming up with illegal breeders in the US is dangerous and that Federal authorities would catch him if they have a chance to do so.
Finally, this enormous outcry here on ICMAG is also understandable, as JB was fishing in the same pool. That was a mistake, because smart entrepreneurs set up their on thing and do not acquire customers from shops they have worked for. But this behavior does not justifiy to call him a conman or something like that as long as we do not know the genuine truth.
Pragma
Active member
It is undeniable at this point that he sent out fake RD gear. His RD stock was pulled and he bought no extra RD stock yet continued to sell tons of RD gear. What about all these fraud transactions from spain that his recent customers (including his own mods LOL) got on their credit cards as the site was pulled ?
His blackmailing breeders with private info so they don't talk about whats happening ?
Yeah.
bill cooper
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No, as far as I know jb and the former owner of a now old site that won't be named by me are not the same person, that's just that one dude talking smack he knows nothing about..
And yes, another site rose from the ashes from that one site where the owner rioz'ed everyone off.. this is true.. the guy who built the site was not even a mod, just pretty much an administrative person who worked on the v2.o version before people started getting ripz'ed off..
When what had happened came to light, dude asked what everyone there wanted to happen, just fold up shop as the former name of the site was surely tarnishes at this point, or maybe continue on as the same old name just different leaders if you will..
The few people hanging about shaking their heads at what has transpired had all pretty much voted to shut down the ripz off site and let the name die the death it deserved.. the man, whom I'm not naming but if.you know, you know, who had previously setup v2.o went ahead and started a new spot .. mostly to try and repay some o the bad karma to those who had been ripz'ed off from the other spot. A very honerable thing imvho considering the karma'k debt wasn't even his own, but he still felt guilty by association. This would be like monster drank, hope he doesn't mind my using his name here, feeling guilty for what happened at tsd, and asking the old members of that site what they'd like to do at this point in time, and than starting a new forum using the old ISP or w/e considering it was all paid for and he had access to such information .. even though it was built on a mess shall we say, it would know have a completely different feel and new leader at the helm, and therefore "monsterdranks playland", a name I obviously just made up to fit mystory as I don't want to be spamming Icmag, would be born..
Of course the naysayers would be there for ages saying that because it rose from the ashes of a site where people got ripz'ed off, the new site couldn't possibly be legit, but in the end m.d. playland would keep on keeping on and in the end hopefully people would realize that monster drankplayland wasn't tsd, and let sleeping dogs lie, or die, whatever floats your boat..
And yes, another site rose from the ashes from that one site where the owner rioz'ed everyone off.. this is true.. the guy who built the site was not even a mod, just pretty much an administrative person who worked on the v2.o version before people started getting ripz'ed off..
When what had happened came to light, dude asked what everyone there wanted to happen, just fold up shop as the former name of the site was surely tarnishes at this point, or maybe continue on as the same old name just different leaders if you will..
The few people hanging about shaking their heads at what has transpired had all pretty much voted to shut down the ripz off site and let the name die the death it deserved.. the man, whom I'm not naming but if.you know, you know, who had previously setup v2.o went ahead and started a new spot .. mostly to try and repay some o the bad karma to those who had been ripz'ed off from the other spot. A very honerable thing imvho considering the karma'k debt wasn't even his own, but he still felt guilty by association. This would be like monster drank, hope he doesn't mind my using his name here, feeling guilty for what happened at tsd, and asking the old members of that site what they'd like to do at this point in time, and than starting a new forum using the old ISP or w/e considering it was all paid for and he had access to such information .. even though it was built on a mess shall we say, it would know have a completely different feel and new leader at the helm, and therefore "monsterdranks playland", a name I obviously just made up to fit mystory as I don't want to be spamming Icmag, would be born..
Of course the naysayers would be there for ages saying that because it rose from the ashes of a site where people got ripz'ed off, the new site couldn't possibly be legit, but in the end m.d. playland would keep on keeping on and in the end hopefully people would realize that monster drankplayland wasn't tsd, and let sleeping dogs lie, or die, whatever floats your boat..
We don't have MO's over here in Europe. Atleast where I am no one has heard of that.
The last cash order I sent to the bay got stolen in registered tracked mail.. so yeah.
I think we could all benefit from some digital sort of payment (bitcoin), or at least the acceptance of instant money transfers like Mgram or WU..
I'm like yu, have been sending money here(sb) without a problem and the last one was robbed(and like usual it was the biggest one), have not get the chance other seem to have here because nobody ever do something to help.
now all i wish is that the seeds ordered at tsd was not fake ones...
@BOG: can you tell us more about that because i did order Sour Bubble really recently there. that was the only place who get it in stock...
Sorry Racer I did not mention you in my post as well. He too has nothing to do with any banks.
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
floweryfield
Member
do you really think that he did this on purpose? I think that the entire company grew too fast and the guy didn´t find stafff who met the requirements and then such shit happens.So he sends out fake beans and you don't think hes a con man is that you jb
Finally, I can calm you down, I´m not JB, but I judge over people not before all the facts are on the table. I know that Jorge Cervantes had business relationships with JB why I would appreciate it if he could comment the current situation and bring light into the dark
stickshift
Active member
That doesn't make any sense does it now!, you don't think he was conman but knew he didn't have the capital to run the place and had legal problems? wtf is with that? if you can't afford to run a place/business don't friggin start one, then esp don't get a product you have no intention of paying for, that's called being a conman/thief as you have admitted he knew he would/could get bust because of his problems.. so his only intention was clearly to scam and make off with that, so you knew all this and saw no problem? fuck me if I know I am in shit I don't bring others into the shit with me... that's called scum and something a friggin weasel does.
i think it might be safe to presume that anyone who says he wasnt a conman may have simply been conned themselves?
distributors dont really need a huge amount of capital, because they generally buy on S.O.R and then keep around half the money, paying the supplier some time after. they generally dont take on any risk themselves.
i used to be in the music biz and we lost money a few times from distributors going bust before they had paid us.
VG
distributors dont really need a huge amount of capital, because they generally buy on S.O.R and then keep around half the money, paying the supplier some time after. they generally dont take on any risk themselves.
i used to be in the music biz and we lost money a few times from distributors going bust before they had paid us.
VG
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