Skunk #1 vs Skunk #11 from seed

[Ole MacDonald]

Hello,

I'm very excited to be an active part of this forum now, as I have reaped its benefits for years. I figured it was time to start giving back, so here we go:

I have two ten packs of seeds:

D.P. Skunk #1 regular seeds (male and female)
D.P. Skunk #11 feminized seeds

I have popped the Skunk #1 from D.P. a few times in the last ten years, but I have yet to try any of the other skunks (#11, ultra, super, etc). I couldn't decide this time whether to get #1 or #11, so I looked online for a side-by-side comparison. I could not find one anywhere, so I decided to run both these strains side by side and post my findings here on ICMag. Here's the plan:

1. Pop the seeds at the same time, and put them in dirt. I will start taking cuttings as soon as they are ready to give a few each. The cuttings will root aeroponically.

2. Keep seed plants in veg. Some clones from each pheno will be run in Sun #4, and RDWC as well.

3. I will document the development of each pheno and post pics along the way.

4. After they finish, I will painstakingly smoke something from each of the phenotypes (hard work I know), and report my findings. This will take a while as I will start each new day with two tokes from a different pheno. I will give yield reports as well.

5. Lasty, pick my favorite momma and move on to the next variety.

I got the seeds wet for the first time about 40 minutes ago. Stay tuned, and thanks again to everyone on this forum for providing such an amazing place to learn and "grow."
Ole Mac

P.S. I welcome any advice on how to post properly on this forum. I'm not sure exactly what I'm doing yet!

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I have additional threads that I will be starting very soon:

RDWC BUILD Modeled after Big Tokes Bio Buckets, but with a few experimental changes.

D.P. "The Ultimate" strain from seed So far I haven't seen anything flattering on this strain, but D.P. seems to think it is revolutionary. I had to find out for myself.

D.P. "Blueberry" strain from seed

DNA "Holy Grail Kush" strain from seed - I'm really excited about this one!

Barney's "Tangerine Dream" strain from seed

Breeding Experiment (Bubba Kush x Skunk) - Pre-98 Bubba Kush female clones crossed with Skunk #1 males from seed, and then their male offspring crossed again with the Pre-98 Bubba female. I am in an area that has an AMAZING Bubba Kush phenotype available by clone only, but it comes with systemic problems, and takes forever to veg. My hope is to quicken the veg time, add a little weight, and keep the wonderful flavor, high, and potency of the BK. I am not a breeder, so I may end up with something completely unexpected, but it will be fun either way!

 

[siftedunity]

sounds like an interesting project... good luck!

 

[Ole MacDonald]

Seedlings were started the same day. Blue cups are Skunk #11, and green cups are Skunk #1. Red cups are Holy Grail Kush from DNA seeds, which I will show in another thread.

**I'm still trying to figure out how to get pics into the thread. I tried dragging them, but it won't let me drop them in. If anyone can help me figure this out, that would be fantastic. Sorry for the newb questions!

 

[bayarea925]

You have to make a album then upload the pictures to that album. Which is in your user profile.

 

[Ole MacDonald]

Blue cups SK #11, green cups Sk #1, red cups Holy Grail Kush (not included in experiment)





So, I'm already off to a rocky start here. I messed up and let the paper towel dry out a little too much, and lost 4 Skunk seeds while germinating. I started the HGK seeds separately, so they germinated 100%. For the record, not Dutch Passion's fault.

Also, I think I may have mixed up two of the Skunk plants. They are both marked Sk?. One is Sk #1 and the other is Sk #11, I just don't know which is which. The Sk #1 seeds are male and female, and the Sk #11 seeds are all female. So, if I get a male out of one of the question marks, I'll know which is which.

Anyway, I'll try to keep better track of things from here on out!

 

[mack 10]

Great idea. im in. Are you hoping for sweet or skunky?

 

[Ole MacDonald]

Great idea. im in. Are you hoping for sweet or skunky?

Well, I've popped these seeds several times, and each time I'm astounded at how consistent they are. I guess I must have picked the sweet/fruity phenotype each time, because that's all I ever remember. Never really had skunk smell skunky to me.

This time I will be paying much closer attention that I have in the past! I'm super excited about comparing the two!!

 

[Ole MacDonald]

Oh and I mean I've popped the Skunk #1 seeds from Dutch Passion multiple times, not the #11. This is my first time ever trying Skunk #11!

 

[Gelado`]

Good thread. Thanks for doing this! I've never grown anything from DP, but have thought about it many a time. I just harvested a Skunk 1 and I agree that it's more of a sweet, fruity strain than the indica funk most associate with the strain. I'm sure there are skunky phenotypes out there though!

 

[Happy Roots]

Looking great.

Hope you get some skunk smell sometime in the future

 

[there goes edro]

Sounds intriguing. Good luCK, HaPPy Growing, and have a great start to the new year!!

 

[Max Headroom]

i grew DP Sk#11 for my first grow and while i made many mistakes i was quite happy with the result. nice all-purpose up high.
would love to know how the unfemmed compare - good luck with your experiment!

 

[Ole MacDonald]

I have seen some misinformation on Skunk #1 and Skunk#11 in numerous places on the net, so I thought I would post some factual stuff about the two strains here:

MYTH: Skunk #1 and Skunk #11 are the same strain, but Skunk #11 is just the feminized version.

I've seen this myth a lot of places. Like Ultra Skunk, this was a breeding project that was designed to improve up an old classic. I just wanna see if it worked.

Dutch Passion says:

SKUNK #1

Winner of several harvest festivals, and “High Times” Cannabis Cup. Skunk#1 (75% Sativa, 25% Indica) was originally a cross between 25% Afghani, 25% Mexican Acapulco Gold and 50% Columbian Gold. Inbred since 1978, now a stabilized homogeneous strain. Blooms with long, thick buds, varying in colour from light green to golden. Very high flower to leaf ratio. Mold susceptible the last 6 weeks of flowering. Soft and sweet aroma and a very strong “up” high. Excellent variety for indoor growing or greenhouse with darkening system. Very high yields. Easy to manicure. This variety serves as a standard against which others can be measured.

SKUNK #11

Skunk #11 is a true cannabis legend, our only strain to have sold over a million seeds. Quite possibly the worlds most popular weed variety ....and for very good reasons, this is definitely no ordinary skunk.

Many of our customers have been buying Skunk #11 for years and are so satisfied with the yields and the exquisite skunk 'high' that they don't even want to try other varieties! This highly stable premium skunk strain is the result of years of breeding by our top skunk geneticist and is a foolproof variety with excellent growth, yield and potency. Exceptionally resistant to mould and disease, Skunk#11 delivers a famously enjoyable anti-anxiety high that relaxes the body and soothes the soul. The stone is satisfying, high, chilled and erotic. Yet it has enough energy to allow you to function if you need to get things done. In this respect we call it a 'medium stone' which many prefer to an 'all-out' incapacitating stone.

Skunk #11 grows vigorously in any grow medium, indoors, in a greenhouse or outside. It is a strong plant with generous yields of resin covered bud and has a traditional spicy old-school shiva aroma with a rich, cheesy indica taste. Our Skunk expert recommends harvesting at 7 weeks, the buds may still be green at this point but the Skunk #11 is at its glorious and incomparable best. Over a million seeds sold is your guarantee of satisfaction. Discover it for yourself, a top-quality variety that we offer at a remarkably affordable price for such a high-performance strain.

 

[RoadRash]

You always hear about Skunk #1 being a combination of Colombian, Afghani, and Mexico, to obtain a strain that was developed into a pure-breeding strain, with a THC about 7.5%.

I always wonder if that was Mexican x (Colombian x Afghani) (or was Afghani the mother) ? Or was it Colombian x (Afghani x Mexican) ?

Anyway, Skunk #1 is a cornerstone/ bedrock strain, for sure.


Is Skunk #11 a re-do of the original breeding combinations (Crosses and back-crosses) that led to Skunk #1, but starting with Higher THC (CBN, CBD) strains of Afghani, Mexican, and Colombian, perhaps ?

 

[Mister_D]

Sounds like fun I'm subbed for the show.

 

[Ole MacDonald]

You always hear about Skunk #1 being a combination of Colombian, Afghani, and Mexico, to obtain a strain that was developed into a pure-breeding strain, with a THC about 7.5%.

I always wonder if that was Mexican x (Colombian x Afghani) (or was Afghani the mother) ? Or was it Colombian x (Afghani x Mexican) ?

Anyway, Skunk #1 is a cornerstone/ bedrock strain, for sure.


Is Skunk #11 a re-do of the original breeding combinations (Crosses and back-crosses) that led to Skunk #1, but starting with Higher THC (CBN, CBD) strains of Afghani, Mexican, and Colombian, perhaps ?

I really don't know. I would assume the original skunk was used in the breeding process, as it would save the breeder decades of time, and generate a much more stable strain.

Found some more info:

DUTCH PASSION SAYS:

Of course, genetics of the quality possessed by Skunk#1 are popular with breeders/seed producers and Skunk has been extensively used for cross breeding. When Dutch Passion themselves have produced other Skunk varieties they have been very cautious to only use the ‘Skunk’ name when the master breeders have produced a variety which is absolutely ‘true’ to the skunk heritage. In Dutch Passions case, Skunk #11 is one example of a strain which justifiably bares the ‘Skunk’ name. Skunk #11 was the first Dutch Passion strain to sell a million seeds and remains an undisputed classic. Ultra Skunk, Skunk Passion and Orange Bud are other examples of top quality members of the Dutch Passion Skunk family.


On another forum I saw an interesting post called "The Story of Skunk." It went into detail and included a Mama Thai in the breeding of the original Skunk #1. I've seen some type of Thai sativa included in the genetics a few other places too.

It also said that they (whoever they are) only label strains with the skunk name when they 1. Were derived from the original, and 2. Are very close to the original genetic make-up.

I take this to mean that Skunk #1 is included in any new credible skunk strain, and that backcrosses were probably very common. Some skunk varieties have a higher afghani percentage (40%) in their genetics, so in that case they probably just crossed skunk #1 with afghani and backcrossed the offspring to the original a few times.

This is of course speculation on my part.

One example I can think of is Mango Haze and Super Silver Haze. Both are 50% Original Haze, 25% Northern Lights, and 25% Skunk, yet they are very different, and have different names. Neither strain contains the other, they just used the same classic breeding stock in the same proportions.

All this is what leads me to believe that credible new Skunk strains are ultimately derived from Skunk #1 genetics somehow.

 

[Ole MacDonald]

The babies are starting to move.



The smaller plants are the Holy Grail Kush, which will not be part of this experiment. When they get a little older, I will separate the #1s from the #11s, so you can see the difference in the leaves. So far, it appears to me the Skunk #1s have a fatter leaf, and the Skunk #11s look a bit more sativa.

 

[Tlatoani77]

Hi, but so, what's the diference between Skunk #1 and Skunk #11?, wich is superior?, are they the same thing?, are both worth?, would you recommend them?, how's the potency of either strains?, I hope your experiment was satisfactory, and I'll wait for this report, saludos from México.