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Just out of curiosity..
How many here trim their harvest wet?
I wouldnt do it personally, but I see others do it regularly and swear by it....
How many here trim their harvest wet?
I wouldnt do it personally, but I see others do it regularly and swear by it....
I remove fan leaves only and am very careful with the trichomes while doing that. They get a trim (by other people) after the branches will almost snap but not super dry.
I dont want Trichomes to smear wet, or fall off too dry.
Trichomes are my focal point
( Trichomes, Food, and fine women)
I dont want Trichomes to smear wet, or fall off too dry.
Trichomes are my focal point
( Trichomes, Food, and fine women)
GreenHands13
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I dont trim anything wet because of the sap that juices out of fresh leaves when cut. The sap degrades the overall quality. Imo wet trimming is only good for commercial purposes.
I wet trim. I have taken entire harvests and split them up in two piles. One pile is wet trim, the other dry trim. After a months cure I couldn't tell the difference between the two piles. I have run this test many times, and I can never tell the difference. Wet trim is easier than dry trimming for me, so since I can't tell a difference I wet trim.
dry imho, the cleaners are more gentle with the dry and it doesnt get tossed around wet, which has a similar effect to the Twister ect..
We want to be as careful as possible with the flowers all year, no one is groping them or squeezing them ect, heck were not a huge fan of even touching the leaves too much, especially in veg, not sure why it just feels right..............so my point being if we spend all year trying to make sure these girls dont get molested while growing up, dam sure it aint gonna happen when the branches are cut off the plants.
From cut to hang they never get stacked, piled up, or squeezed together....each branch gets cut to about arms length, is placed gently (cut branch side down, tops pointing to the sky) into a big tote, placed along side other branches carefully..and so on...never are the totes allowed to sit in the full sun, always in the shade, and they are hung as soon as the tote is full, care fully, one at a time, all facing the same direction, in a well ventilated, dry, dark structure.
When buds are dry to the touch but still have a slight bit of moisture they are removed, brought to the cleaners. Hopefully they are good bc if they are they wont shave or smear (which is the term i should have used for similar to the look of twister bud..smeared lol) and your left with glistening trichomes and unmolested trichome heads/flowers ect...ect.
Also IMO its easier to deal with dry trim over wet, as wet trim needs a whole new dry spot..more space time gas ect...
imho of course, whatever works best for ya is the way it should be
We want to be as careful as possible with the flowers all year, no one is groping them or squeezing them ect, heck were not a huge fan of even touching the leaves too much, especially in veg, not sure why it just feels right..............so my point being if we spend all year trying to make sure these girls dont get molested while growing up, dam sure it aint gonna happen when the branches are cut off the plants.
From cut to hang they never get stacked, piled up, or squeezed together....each branch gets cut to about arms length, is placed gently (cut branch side down, tops pointing to the sky) into a big tote, placed along side other branches carefully..and so on...never are the totes allowed to sit in the full sun, always in the shade, and they are hung as soon as the tote is full, care fully, one at a time, all facing the same direction, in a well ventilated, dry, dark structure.
When buds are dry to the touch but still have a slight bit of moisture they are removed, brought to the cleaners. Hopefully they are good bc if they are they wont shave or smear (which is the term i should have used for similar to the look of twister bud..smeared lol) and your left with glistening trichomes and unmolested trichome heads/flowers ect...ect.
Also IMO its easier to deal with dry trim over wet, as wet trim needs a whole new dry spot..more space time gas ect...
imho of course, whatever works best for ya is the way it should be
My question would be: If everything is trimmed the same, taken the same amount of care while growing, harvesting, and trimming, would it make a difference if wet vs dry trim as far as quality and smell? That is the real question, and I believe the answer is it doesn't really matter. I feel that MAYBE, just MAYBE I get a little better smell off the dry trim herb. Nothing noticeable.
I trim everything, including last years outdoor wet, with my Bonsai Heroes. They do not buff the buds like machines, and I only touch stems during trim. They then get placed in a drying rack in a single layer, not touching each other. After 5-7 days, its off the stems and into the curing containers (pet food containers).
This method certainly does not reduce the nose, or bag appeal. In fact, I have gotten 5 star reviews, remarking on the quality trim job, from one of the dispos that takes my extra meds.
My Tahoe OG for example, just 3-5 days in the cure container has a very loud nose that will reek up my entire house.
I can not stand dry trimming, and IMO I think it has more potential to damage trichomes. When I have had to dry trim due to time constraints, I am always cussing up a storm, and can never sit for long doing it. I will take my 4-5 zips per hour with my trusty Bonsai Heroes, thank you
This method certainly does not reduce the nose, or bag appeal. In fact, I have gotten 5 star reviews, remarking on the quality trim job, from one of the dispos that takes my extra meds.
My Tahoe OG for example, just 3-5 days in the cure container has a very loud nose that will reek up my entire house.
I can not stand dry trimming, and IMO I think it has more potential to damage trichomes. When I have had to dry trim due to time constraints, I am always cussing up a storm, and can never sit for long doing it. I will take my 4-5 zips per hour with my trusty Bonsai Heroes, thank you
I wet trim my headstash sometimes. I would wet trim my whole harvest everytime if it didn't wilt after a few hours and become a pain in the ass. Dry trimming is a must for growers without trimming machines. Any decent worker should be able to finish one pound in 4-6 hrs either way.
A bit off topic but does anybody have plans yet for light dep in the spring? I am thinking of vegging 100 ladies indoors through april, then planting them outside in early may in 10gal smarties filled with coco. handwater with nutes every day, tarp every night. maybe get 1lb per plant if im lucky
A bit off topic but does anybody have plans yet for light dep in the spring? I am thinking of vegging 100 ladies indoors through april, then planting them outside in early may in 10gal smarties filled with coco. handwater with nutes every day, tarp every night. maybe get 1lb per plant if im lucky
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If all goes well this week, I will be running my Blue Dragon at the new site. Only had one last year, but turned the T5s off June 10th, and she flowered without revegging. I chopped her Aug 30th, but could have done it the 15th.
hey Arminius.. thats cool kind of lucky they didn't re-veg. Blue dragon is so yummy too bad it never yeilded for me. I am thinking i might try some OG Headcheese outside this spring 
whats the flowering time like on that?
i'm shooting for a few dep harvests in 2014, 1st round gets 1 month veg indoors, then planted outside and light-depped in May like i said, and harvest by July 4 if i'm lucky. I plan to veg another round indoors while the first dep cycle is finishing, that way as soon as i pull the first round i can start the next one. With this method i hope to get 3 light-dep cycles harvested in the same 6 months needed for my full-sun garden
whats the flowering time like on that?i'm shooting for a few dep harvests in 2014, 1st round gets 1 month veg indoors, then planted outside and light-depped in May like i said, and harvest by July 4 if i'm lucky. I plan to veg another round indoors while the first dep cycle is finishing, that way as soon as i pull the first round i can start the next one. With this method i hope to get 3 light-dep cycles harvested in the same 6 months needed for my full-sun garden
I actually really enjoy handwatering outdoors since I run all hydro indoors. It shouldnt take long, maybe an hour per day, and that is valuable time with the ladies.
GreenHands13
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Look at it like this when you cut a leaf in half on a living plant and it puts out the sap it burns the edges. The plant creates a "scab" where it gets damaged just like humans thats why the sap coats the affected part. When you wet trim the sap gets on the nugs and degrades like you said the smell and it will be slightly darker in color. Do a honest test with leaving all the leaf on including water leaf and wet trim some ive done it multiple times and theres no question dry trim comes out better
Wet trimmed flowers, hand trimmed or machine have a nasty taste IMO. Greenhands says its sap, Ive been thinking its the chlorophyll that does it. Makes a harsh burn and it browns the buds a bit. Ive seen some magical looking b buds turn to C- & D after a wet trim, especially when machined. Also makes the buds smell green. Chlorophyll turns brown when exposed to UV light.. Im not sure how a wet trichome can not be damaged by contact with anything. Especially laying on a rack to dry... Wet trimming is a lot faster and easier provided the plant still has osmotic/turgor pressure to keep its leaves up. Although it comes at a price IME...
Dry FTW.
Respect,
FE
Dry FTW.
Respect,
FE
I stopped wet trimming after the first side by side. I've never spent time writing out the science of it. It was so obvious what I needed to do by the results, I didn't bother.
Seems like the defoliation debate, endless, do what works for you!
Me too, I was a hardcore %100 wet trimmer before.... I would never, ever, ever, ever dry trim..
My bro did a big grow and mentioned to me how amazed he was when a smaller plant that got left hanging untrimmed was the best looking of his entire garden. Even better than the headstash of his that he personally hand trimmed...he wouldn't steer me wrong, so I tried, and I have been assimilated.
I agree that theres something to say about plant sap,
I encourage everyone to do a side by side in a humidity and temperature controlled environment, if you havent already.
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