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bambi

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Skunks and indicas are generally the sticky greasy type,, like the old original shiva shanti plant, still sticky gooey once dried,
I think youl find many good plants are those with hollow type stems that bring out more resin on a plant, working this trait into a seed line I think is most important.
 

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Sam_Skunkman

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I have never seen a relationship between hollow stems and more resin. Much hemp has hollow stems, are you really sure?

-SamS

Skunks and indicas are generally the sticky greasy type,, like the old original shiva shanti plant, still sticky gooey once dried,
I think youl find many good plants are those with hollow type stems that bring out more resin on a plant, working this trait into a seed line I think is most important.
 

dank.frank

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I think hollow stems deals more with a plants ability to efficiently process nutrients. Most of the plants I've seen with hollow stems are very hearty and can survive with very low nutrient levels - but I've never seen any direct correlation to high potency or increased resin production due to hollow stems. Just my take...



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siftedunity

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my last hollow stemmed strain was a lower yielder. not sure if that's relevant. I don't think that it makes any difference to nutrient uptake, as its actual stem has less volume than a sold stem plant. so given the same upper leaf surface area etc it will probably uptake water and nutrients slower. In theory..
 

bambi

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I have never seen a relationship between hollow stems and more resin. Much hemp has hollow stems, are you really sure?

-SamS

Hi Sam' - The hollow stem thing I started putting into my plants about 3-4yrs ago after spending a lot of time going over things with shantibaba's ways of preferring the hollow stem trait also, reading many tips online and so forth I decided to take note of this myself in my own plants,
Ive only worked on 3 different varietys in past and present for my own findings, I grew out shanti's shit plant given to me, a f/1) and said to him most females and dads had this hollow stem amongst em as if it was breed into them, not much was further commented on so I figured id give it a shot myself and I think is working well with my latest plant, each new generation I notice the arms getting more of a hollow stem coming through and much more resinous like the one pictured, old super skunk linage}

ps: ive read some think hollow stems help nutrient uptake in a plant, getting more nutes I suppose, I don't think this is really better or not,? dunno mate..

b.
 

dank.frank

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note - I didn't say they use more nutrients - or uptake more nutrients...

Merely I *think* they utilize nutrients more efficiently - and survive longer in low nutrient situations...which would indirectly be saying they use less nutrients, I suppose.

Again, this is all conjecture on my part and is nothing more than observational data - not something I have ever tested. It's sort of hard to test such given all plant phenotypes can feed slightly differently, even from within the same genetic line. So, to compare / contrast a tested soil with known nutrient levels to a group of plants grown in it with hollow stems vs a group of plants with solid stems -- you'd still be left with a scientifically inconclusive batch of data - as all the plants are not going to feed the same to begin with...



dank.Frank
 
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I have never seen a relationship between hollow stems and more resin. Much hemp has hollow stems, are you really sure?

-SamS

good evening,

im glad to see an another professionnal breeder sharing his thought on this subject of hollow stem. :tiphat:

here is a quote from DJ short :
The next criteria for elimination is borrowed from Michael Starks' book, Marijuana Potency, and involves stem structure. Large, hollow main stems are sought while pith-filled stems are eliminated. Backed by years of observation, I agree that hollow stems do seem to facilitate THC production.

and a quote from Shantibaba :
The importance of selecting plants for the traits that are useful to the breeder/grower is the main reason genetics have evolved as they have. Male plants of this species need to be carefully selected to avoid a lot of laborious work, which means one will need to do a lot of testing of F1 seed made from a particular male to verify if the sex linked traits are real or not. Males that auto flower irrespective of daylight hours are normally eliminated to insure against hermaphroditism or unwanted male traits. Males that flower too quickly or too tall are also not the best for breeding since they put too much energy into fiber production which is not the trait one is looking for in a medicinal plant. Males that have large hollow main stems are sought out rather than males that are more pith-filled stems - the main reason are that large hollow stemmed males are better THC producers than other plants. Males that produce tight floral clusters rather than airy sparse floral clusters are usually better to breed with. Finally if you rub your fingers against the stem of a developing male and are able to get strong odors or aromas (terpines) you will be advised to use these males as trichrome production and flavor are directly related to plants that produce odors early on. There are several other traits to look for in a male but these are rather advanced and need microscope help which is not really relevant for the hobby grower/breeder.
 

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