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The Prodigal Son

HellaFella420

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Was just bothered by some of their recent nonsense, and wanted to start a conversation on their societal impact and what not.... wanted to get a few other opinions before i just steamrolled through with my thoughts...
 

anonymousgrow

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LOL I can easily see how someone would be bothered by their reporting. Like trying to see the world through a little porthole on the side of a ship. its a unique perspective.
 

LyryC

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Wazzz uppp Hella! :wave:

LoCo has a very confusing website home page - didn't get past that :D

Regarding the previous BHO stuff - I think BHO can be wonderful when done right - but the money makers ruin it by flooding the market with very bad BHO... and I do agree on the subculture surrounding it having very little class/ethics... Clinics will sell what they know is not medicinal quality BHO at all - all the time too. So I think for BHO to be successful it needs community standards set up so that there isn't an insanely large variation in quality like there is; as well as awareness.

We need to teach each other about limitations - safe usage and respecting BHO so that we don't have a huge problem throughout the community like we currently do with unregulated production standards and sales - I think its a very bad thing. But if we could say raise BHO to only be available to 21+/have limitations on amounts available and teach people how to use torches - safe ways to refill them - and how to handle nails and all that stuff - we could have a clean waxing community that respects the wax and isn't abusing it.

I think if one smokes wax all day one is going to run into problems with their health over a long period of time - but time from time to dabble around is fine - our lungs and bodies heal and maybe the braincells lost won't come back as soon - the damage isn't profound - unless you dab all day everyday - even if you are a wax snob - just seeing reclaim makes me wonder whats floating around at hte bottom of their lungs.

why don't you like bho so much? Whats your stance on hash?
 

HellaFella420

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Showed this to my partner, he went and got four EZ-cloners the next day...
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[am I retarded? Can't seem to post this vertical, I upload a "rotated" version, ICmag still displays it sideways, and under the "Edit Picture", there is ZERO editing abilities?]

In progress...
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Fin
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Don't worry, there is still the whole other side to finish...
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Plant level
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rasputin

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Very cool, HellaFella. Doing work man.

Had a worker melt my face this last time, I pack up a big happy bowl of my Primo OG headstash and offer it around, she very politely, but very seriously says: "No thanks, I don't smoke flowers anymore." MINDBLOWN

Just out of curiosity, what would your reaction have been if she said she doesn't smoke flowers anymore because she prefers dry sift or bubblehash?

I think what is kinda being lost in the BHO debate is that some people want hash/concentrates because they are more effective and economical. A hit or two of dry sift, bubble or BHO can put you in a place that a puff or two off a joint just can't do.

I dig your general point, HF, especially on the pretentiousness with dabs in some circles which I find comical. But I think they all have their merits, flowers, hash & concentrates, and people need to decide individually what works best for them.

For the record, I wouldn't turn down a bowl of some primo homegrown OG. :D
 

HellaFella420

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Very cool, HellaFella. Doing work man.



Just out of curiosity, what would your reaction have been if she said she doesn't smoke flowers anymore because she prefers dry sift or bubblehash?

I think what is kinda being lost in the BHO debate is that some people want hash/concentrates because they are more effective and economical. A hit or two of dry sift, bubble or BHO can put you in a place that a puff or two off a joint just can't do.

I dig your general point, HF, especially on the pretentiousness with dabs in some circles which I find comical. But I think they all have their merits, flowers, hash & concentrates, and people need to decide individually what works best for them.

For the record, I wouldn't turn down a bowl of some primo homegrown OG. :D


Would have been the same disdain as dabs only, so limiting, so pretentious. Its the feeling that nothing else is good enough but what they deem fit... Kinda in the same vein of implied self-importance that comes with many cases of veganism and gluten intolerance it seems.

Mebbe there is some twisted thought of lung preservation in the minimization of inhaled particulate matter, but nothing like that was ever brought up when lightly discussing her disdain for "flowers."

I know we have science and ingenuity on our side to increase the potency of things and I'm down to smoke a dab or something on a special occasion, but to swear off the herb in favor of a conversation negating, brain function clouding, concentrate ONLY is just ludicrous.
 

high life 45

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Hey bro! still keeping busy I see.

It seems some people dont drink vodka, some dont drink whiskey, some dont drink beer and now some folks dont smoke flowers.

Medical is/was the doorway for recreational, we all know that. You think all of your flowers are used for 100% medical purposes, I hope not. I hope people get to enjoy them on their own guise and arent forced to use them to relive pain. I am happy to relieve pain but I also hope people get to enjoy the plant for what it is.

I have several patients who dont need/want all the hemp and fibers in their medicating process. One patient has stage 5 bone cancer, flowers just dont give the relief that concentrates do. I have had my flowers come back at 25% thc so I know Im not a shitty grower with bad product.

I see alot of "dab olympics" going on and thats gonna rub some folks the wrong way, but its the social equivalent of a keg stand, or taking shots with your friends.

I dont smoke flowers that often anymore, the effect of combustion leaves me more tired and is harsher on my lungs. Its not what I deem fit, but simply what my body tells me it prefers.

Not all concentrates are gonna dumb you down. I have some 3kings wax that will wake you the f up and if your not doing something you will end up with some anxiety. Its not a sit still, or dumbed down effect by any means. Get up and go go go.

Another more western perspective might be that concentrates are the true medicine. You dont suck on a willow branch, you take aspirin. Doctors dont prescribe opium poppies, the prescribe opiates...My people in serious pain (cancer, hiv, epilepsy) prefer concentrates for relief, sometimes inhaled sometimes eaten.

I have yet to meet someone in serious pain who says "ill take a bonghit over a capsule, or a joint over a dab"

The fact that stoners can now say that "they dont smoke flowers" just shows that the industry is evolving and growing. I think its a good thing.

I also love smoking OG, and find often that the flowers are more flavorful than the concentrate. Maybe she doesnt know what she was missing.
 

HellaFella420

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lol! your funny, and a dick all at the same time.... [I think we would be great friends....!]

some people aren't very friendly or talkative to begin with.
Your not ALL wrong; she was definitely on the socially awkward end of the spectrum for most people. when she was ready to partake she very demurely and almost embarrassed like, asked if she could bring her "rig" in...

I was really confused and taken aback [1st time I had met her], the naive me finally realized [assumed] she was a junkie [facepalm myself {she's a little weird/kooky/tattooed/strange/"druggie-ish"}] and assumed she was just being very up-front and honest about things.... I'm not one to judge or tell someone to be something they are not, so I acquiesced slowly with a confused face. I think she realized and then broke into the explanation that it was a fancy/dedicated oil bong apparatus and she was just asking if she could bring it in.... [which was weird and confusing as well, to be asking permission to essentially "smoke pot"] but she was a new "employee" and just being very thoughtful/respectful i guess?

mabye that girl just didnt think your ogk was up to par and didnt want to be ur guinea pig

That would be an insanely dick move for ANYONE within the realm of a "just met you 10 minutes ago smoke session" .....who the fuck ARE you?

was it twister trimmed ?
It was! I would LOVE to hear your dissertation on the differences/supposed detriments of machine trimmed ganja given the "pointed" nature of your witty remark if you have the time! Don't go regurgitating some shit you have read on the internet or something your friends-friends-sisters-cat heard about, I have lived it for almost a year now and have only been disappointed twice so far.... ask me, I'll tell you all about it!
 

HellaFella420

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Hey bro! still keeping busy I see.

It seems some people dont drink vodka, some dont drink whiskey, some dont drink beer and now some folks dont smoke flowers.

Medical is/was the doorway for recreational, we all know that. You think all of your flowers are used for 100% medical purposes, I hope not. I hope people get to enjoy them on their own guise and arent forced to use them to relive pain. I am happy to relieve pain but I also hope people get to enjoy the plant for what it is.

I have several patients who dont need/want all the hemp and fibers in their medicating process. One patient has stage 5 bone cancer, flowers just dont give the relief that concentrates do. I have had my flowers come back at 25% thc so I know Im not a shitty grower with bad product.

I see alot of "dab olympics" going on and thats gonna rub some folks the wrong way, but its the social equivalent of a keg stand, or taking shots with your friends.

I dont smoke flowers that often anymore, the effect of combustion leaves me more tired and is harsher on my lungs. Its not what I deem fit, but simply what my body tells me it prefers.

Not all concentrates are gonna dumb you down. I have some 3kings wax that will wake you the f up and if your not doing something you will end up with some anxiety. Its not a sit still, or dumbed down effect by any means. Get up and go go go.

Another more western perspective might be that concentrates are the true medicine. You dont suck on a willow branch, you take aspirin. Doctors dont prescribe opium poppies, the prescribe opiates...My people in serious pain (cancer, hiv, epilepsy) prefer concentrates for relief, sometimes inhaled sometimes eaten.

I have yet to meet someone in serious pain who says "ill take a bonghit over a capsule, or a joint over a dab"

The fact that stoners can now say that "they dont smoke flowers" just shows that the industry is evolving and growing. I think its a good thing.

I also love smoking OG, and find often that the flowers are more flavorful than the concentrate. Maybe she doesnt know what she was missing.

Definitely one of the more well thought out and worded arguments. This is apples n oranges though, the applications are worlds apart.

I guess I should have specified the recreational intake of dabs as to what I was referring, that is the culture around these parts anyway, like you tacitly referred to the medical; its merely a guise, a legal framework to exist within.
 

HellaFella420

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Dem nutrients... any questions on the regimen?
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End of 4 days, ~8hrs a day 3-4 people.....
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17-ish kW? ....on this side
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The "leftovers" A couple future Bubba's Gift's and "The White" mommas
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Don't break your neck, I can't figure out the damn HTML/Vbulletin tags to display this horizontally, any code geeks that can straighten me out that would be great!
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b00m

~No Guts~ ~No Glory~
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Here ya go mate I just saved it and flipped it over for ya ;)
Great setup for this round too :good:
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whatthe215

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are you running a soil mix inside currently? seems ya normally use smaller pots.

i think i remember you getting a drop of royal gold, was it their coco?

and is that a instant water heater in the garage? are you using it for CO2?
 

anonymousgrow

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Looking Killer man! What is your goal on the garage? pound per light? I haven't ever run anything bigger than 8 lights and even though i can get over 2.5 pounds out of a 1kw tent the most i got out of the 8kw was 11lbs. You seem like your shit is well on point though and am curious what you aim for in a show like this.

I have seen lots of buds trimmed with a twister but only helped run one once. I am definitely buying one before anything needs to get trimmed again; some bud structures seem to not like the twister as much and those I won't grow more than a little for my head stash. Regardless I hate trimming and I'm not the biggest fan of running a trim scene/babysitting trimmers...

K+ HellaFella420
 
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