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want to add some fast nitrogen

Canada

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I have about 12 plants that are showing nitrogen def and im 100 % sure that's what it is . I have just transferred them to larger 7 gal pots filled with 2/4 peat 1/4 perlite 1/4 vermiculite and a handful of all organic giga green all purpose 4 4 4 and a handful of ewc 2 days ago . The yellowing hasn't got any better . The post should be ready for another watering in a day or 2 and I was thinking of mixing some advanced ph perfect 2 part veg to get them green fast but I don't want it to have any negative effects on my soil .

I have read somewhere that adding chems to organic can kill my organisms on the organics . Do You think I would be better off just leaving them or foil spray or adding the chems .

The plants are all pale yellow and around 2ft tall . I really should have had them in flower 5 days ago to meet my dead line .

Any advice will be greatly appreciated
 

Swayze

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Skip the chems and make an EWC slurry. Top dress with a little alflafa or N guano beforehand if you'd like.
 

Canada

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think the ewc tea will act quick enough ? that is my concerns with organics it takes time to become available for nute uptake .
 

Granger2

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Supermanlives is right about Blood Meal. Fast acting, organic, iron which greens up also. -granger
 
Alfalfa tea is the answer for you. Root drench, and foliar, too, if you want (dilute it down if you plan to drench AND foliar). It will green up your plants in a hurry, and keep you organic.
 
Next time, rather than a "handful" of worm castings per pot, use about 20-30% worm castings (AKA replace the vermiculite with worm castings). Humus is THE most important ingredient in any organic system. More is better, but probably best to keep it below 1/3 of your mix, just to maintain good soil structure.

Everything will work better, trust me on that.
 

Smurf

stoke this joint
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Have you thought of using a nettle fpe or some n fixing azotobacter,, either one will work a treat with excellent results.
 
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Eureka Springs Organics

Compost tea to the rescue. Add a little alfalfa at the beginning of the brew. Then foliar feed, and soil drench. You can do this twice a week if you want.
 

xmobotx

ecks moe baw teeks
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alfalfa or fish meal would be good sources; i would top-dress & water it in @ this point

watering w/ compost tea would likely help too but, i wouldn't brew it in ~you'll have more microbes brewing basic compost+molasses+water ACT & still top-dressing w/ the alfalfa
 
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Eureka Springs Organics

alfalfa or fish meal would be good sources; i would top-dress & water it in @ this point

watering w/ compost tea would likely help too but, i wouldn't brew it in ~you'll have more microbes brewing basic compost+molasses+water ACT & still top-dressing w/ the alfalfa

Alfalfa feeds bacteria in compost tea. I put it in all of my tea mixes.
http://eurekaspringsorganics.com/compost-tea-kits

That along with kelp meal is what I suggest to put in all compost tea brews.
 

bigshrimp

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Cold pressed fish emulsion is what i've been using for extra feed. Good amount of N with all sorts of other goodies.

Some soluble nitrogen, with the rest easily processed by your soil in a couple days.
 

xmobotx

ecks moe baw teeks
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Ammoniocal Nitrogen...super fast acting.

really, you shouldn't want to be adding "fast-acting N" in a proper organic grow. root exudates from the plant should free nutrients in the living soil as required by the plant.

greening it up w/ a splash of soluble N is harming the micro-herd & leaning back towards a chem nute NPK methodology

it's very similar how adding kelp meal or alfalfa {i stand corrected, small amounts of alfalfa meal are helpful in a ACT} to the compost tea brewing process slows microbial multiplication ~which is the purpose of compost tea {microbes}

nute teas should be considered a separate concept and are undesirable in the living soil/recycled {including especially "no-till"} for this very reason ~an excess of soluble nutes tends to negate the soil food web
 
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Eureka Springs Organics

really, you shouldn't want to be adding "fast-acting N" in a proper organic grow. root exudates from the plant should free nutrients in the living soil as required by the plant.

greening it up w/ a splash of soluble N is harming the micro-herd & leaning back towards a chem nute NPK methodology

it's very similar how adding kelp meal or alfalfa to the compost tea brewing process slows microbial multiplication ~which is the purpose of compost tea {microbes}

nute teas should be considered a separate concept and are undesirable in the living soil/recycled {including especially "no-till"} for this very reason ~an excess of soluble nutes tends to negate the soil food web

Kelp and alfalfa are great in teas. I have read some anecdotal evidence about kelp, but never about alfalfa. The microscope never lies. :)
 

bigshrimp

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Adding most anything at this point is going to have some soluble N - you just don't want to render your ecosystem obsolete.

If you are of the mind to push your plants a little (and alot of us do) while still keeping a functional food web your going to want to choose something that isnt "junk food". Like fish emulsion or molasses.

Keep in mind that high or irregular application of such can cause boom and bust cycles in your soil ecosystem similar to feeding junk N.
 
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