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RELOCATION ADVISE, CONSIDERING MICHIGAN AND OREGON...

RetroGrow

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You want to supply to dispensaries and retail? I haven't checked on the felony restrictions... I would imagine there would be.

The limit is 6 plants per adult over 21. So 12 in a normal 2-adult household, 18 in a 3 and so on and so forth. Half of which can be in flower.

For personal/medicinal use? My doctor didn't ask me about a criminal history and there's no need to contact the state for a red card if it's just personal use. No more talking to white coats with frilly-framed pieces of paper to treat yourself with a plant. :dance013:

Keep it Clean! :D

So how do you get paperwork for 50 or 99?
You can't have that many adults in your house.
Does number increase by # of patients?
 

justpassnthru

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So how do you get paperwork for 50 or 99?
You can't have that many adults in your house.
Does number increase by # of patients?

If you have copies of valid recs for patients, it has been 'assumed' that a grower can grow the proper plant counts for each patient. So far, I haven't met anyone in jail for that issue.

For California; just ask the pot doc for extended plant and possession rec--It costs about $20. extra. They write something like this: This patient requires more marijuana than the limits of California State Law.

then you just assume you have a 99 plant and 5 or 15 pound limit for possession!

But things are shaking loose here in Ca and all growing is being tested. I'd avoid Calif, until the law is written in a fashion, access cannot be denied. It is in the courts right now and a hearing on the 20th in Orange County; I'll try to make that one(and other activists) and report the results.

Oregon is the only state we hear so little about! Not sure why, but hey..they have Euthanasia too! Maybe Oregon is a bit more progressive 'thinking' . :blowbubbles: jpt
 

RetroGrow

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When you say "all growing is being tested", are you talking about the possibility of municipalities/counties banning cultivation?
 

TheCleanGame

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So how do you get paperwork for 50 or 99?
You can't have that many adults in your house.
Does number increase by # of patients?
I told the doctor that I was tired of smoking and would rather move into edibles. The truth. Wrote me a recommendation for a higher plant count. That's all.

Colorado is still changing. Cities can ban commercial growing but not personal. I know for a fact that Park County is extremely lax about cannabis and LEO seeing 60 plant grows with paperwork for 6.... just don't care.

Park County has already lost a multi-million dollar lawsuit against a patient. They have a grow room built in the jail where they're supposed to keep 'confiscated' plants and equipment.

They found out a few things...

  • None of the officers know how to grow
  • Keeping multiple grows in the same grow room causes cross infection of bugs/pests for which you're liable.
  • Destroying a garden through ignorance and stupidity costs. Big time!
The grow room sits empty and the local officers have no interest in costing the department more money by doing anything like that again. lol


The main downsides to Park County would be:
The short outdoor growing season (June-Sept). (Strong light-dep greenhouses help)
The extreme cold in winter. (-50F)
The lack of jobs/income (Pot prices are falling)
The low oxygen levels (lots of people move down slope in a few years due to health reasons)


Me? I freaking LOVE it up here. lol Weird for a guy that spent 20 years in the desert saying he didn't like snow. LOL


Keep it Clean! :D
 

RetroGrow

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YES, unfortunately. Please support any group of activists in your area to fight this??? jpt

Yes, but won't there be counties where there won't be any action to stop growers? I can't see voters in the northern counties supporting a ban. My understanding is it will be up to the municipalities. Some will ban, others won't, like in Colorado. Is this accurate?
 
you guys rocks !!! keep us informed :headbange not only the responses help me decide but also keep everyone up to date

Can someone answer this for my buddy ???


Yes, but won't there be counties where there won't be any action to stop growers? I can't see voters in the northern counties supporting a ban. My understanding is it will be up to the municipalities. Some will ban, others won't, like in Colorado. Is this accurate?
 

justpassnthru

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Yes, but won't there be counties where there won't be any action to stop growers? I can't see voters in the northern counties supporting a ban. My understanding is it will be up to the municipalities. Some will ban, others won't, like in Colorado. Is this accurate?

Riverside and San Bernardino Counties already have bans on outdoor growing.

There is an initiative being worked on for our mmj growing rights and access.

Right now, any county can do as they please and ARE!!! Regardless of law. That is what is being tested at this point and currently in the court.

Interestingly, some districts that voted for complete Legalization of marijuana, vote to keep dispensaries/collectives out of their cities???:wtf:

We ARE working on it but, need help. Even if you don't want to be a physical part of activism for legalization and protecting your rights, phone a group and ask if you can help. Make posters or whatever, help is needed.

Please don't take for granite that the currently active patient activists can do this; WE could use some fresh blood! :biggrin:jpt
 
Got a call from Bro in law:woohoo:, I guess I'm heading at the end of the month to L.A to see if I like it, but still have my mind in Oregon, who knows, thanks everyone and If you wish to keep posting in this thread your input is going to be welcome because Im still undecided and helps others Icmaggers deciding and getting info about your state laws:thank you:
 

Weezard

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Well, I would have pitched Hawai'i, but unfortunately;

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:D
Aloha,
Weezard
 

theJointedOne

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dont waste your time with oakersterdam,

thats just a scam

you can learn much more and far better here at icmag and other sites online.

networking with folks online and in the real world at events, cups, conferences ect is the best way to make ground in this industry. you need to show you can be trusted and that is huge here in CA and everywhere else.

good luck
 
Thanks Jointed one I started in 98 but I'm one man show also I came from another country but landed in the wrong state, the reason why I will like to go there is to add a certification to my portfolio in case the legalization is approved in my country they are so conservatives and confused and the agriculturists want to take over because they are the so call experts in agriculture but don't know shit about cannabis. its been years since the best coffee lands were used and now they wanna grow! I've been following the news online and with all respect to my people I have to laugh so hard because they don't know shit and tried to use USA for comparisons with the wrong understanding how the system works in the US and the only way to satisfy them is in black and white. I can be anything over there with a Oaksterdam certification.

I do need to network and attend events, I have one coming in my state and I will attend it because the state in gathering signatures for voting but not gonna be close to other states propositions and I think never will for my understanding and the person running the $$$ $how, it sound that he wanna do something but want to control it also
 

Maj.Cottonmouth

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Oregon law is that you can grow for a max of 4 patients with 6 flowering plants per patient and you can have 18 plants in veg but that is unfortunately defined as less than 12 inches tall OR wide. You can have up to 28 ounces of marijuana per patient. You can not legally sell any of the MMJ but you can ask the patient for compensation for documented expenses like electricity or nutrients but not labor.

Oregon does not currently have any legal dispensaries but they have been approved and are scheduled to be open March 1, 2014.

I have linked the Oregon state MMJ page at the bottom. Rule 12 on the Basics Facts page states

Any grower must allow the OMMP to perform a criminal background check. If a grower has been convicted of violating ORS 475.840 through 475.920 on or after January 1, 2006, that person will be prohibited from producing marijuana for a patient for five years from the date of conviction for the first offense, and permanently for more than one conviction.

So the way I read that is that since you have not been convicted of any Oregon statutes you should not be barred from being a registered grower but I am not a lawyer.

I think Portland is a great area because it encompasses a large metro area so you can be in the kind of area you want and still be within 30 minutes of the heart of town.

I am not sure why you left Washington off of your list but you might want to think about them as well. Another nice thing about Portland is that Washington is just a little north and easy to check out and move to if you decide to go that way. I am not up on Washington MMJ law so I can't say how it compares but worth looking into.

Best of luck with wherever you decide on.

http://public.health.oregon.gov/Dis...ease/medicalmarijuanaprogram/Pages/index.aspx
 
Thanks Maj. for the link, me and my friend both like Portland as stated before felt like home when we were there and since he has worked in that airport and has several offers to stay there, that was the ticket for us, he's moving if I'm moving and that is nice to me and I don't have to be by myself till family arrives. thanks a lot +K
 

Maj.Cottonmouth

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No problem brother but I did make an error in my post, they will start taking applications for dispensaries in March but no word on how long before they are approved and open.
 

justpassnthru

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Palm Springs California is the only city that has embraced legal mmj and has authorized 3 collectives to be open..about 4 years now; and no problem. City insists on revenue, too and makes them allow credit card transactions!

Was rather fun using American Express to buy weed with:woohoo:

You might want to check that area out and the surrounding area's. P.S. is minutes from the mountains, high deserts; the tram to Idyllwild and all this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou6mDpHMWMM

About 90 minutes from Los Angeles and a big international airport, too. Just too windy and hot in the summer, for me. It does brag with earlier outdoor harvests; tomato growing season outdoors is almost finished by the end of June;

Check out Idyllwild and Cherry Valley/ Yucaipa area. Many growers live in Hemet and many gangsters too.

Portland, Oregon has too much rain for me; PM would be more of a threat for your greens. imho.:dance013:

Try to plan your trip around a cup: http://www.eventbrite.com/e/high-ti...ino-feb-8-9-2014-tickets-9112448579?aff=eorgf:) jpt
 

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