You can use too much organic nutrients, yes you can. Your leaves tips show burn? is that not a sign that you are on the high end of nutrients? tacos leaves,This is just not how the plants is, it is not genetics, it is environmental and or fert/ph...
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Why on earth do my leaves look like tacos?
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You can use too much organic nutrients, yes you can. Your leaves tips show burn? is that not a sign that you are on the high end of nutrients? tacos leaves,This is just not how the plants is, it is not genetics, it is environmental and or fert/ph...
GreenDream
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Some strains are more sensitive than others. If you increase whatever parameter is causing the "taco" effect in your tangerine, then it will begin to show in other strains, beginning with the next most sensitive variety. Believe me, it's not purely genetic like a virus.
Dream Time
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^^ you can burn a plant with organic nutes - I've done it using General Organics Veg formula. I had a super lemon haze get extremely dark leaves that started clawing in an obvious case of nitrogen toxicity. Flushing her and reducing the amount of nutes corrected the issue.
i think you're confusing praying leaves with taco leaves. taco leaves, when they curl up at the margins and look like you can roll a joint with em is not the same as when the leaves are pointing straight up to reduce their profile against the light.
Check for dead or very-slow moving air spots in the canopy.
Infra-red from lamps or the sun can heat up the humidity in air pockets in the plant and cause much higher temps than areas in the canopy close by.
Should have a slight breeze moving at all times through the entire canopy. This also helps significantly with keeping mold from breaking out.
Keep it Clean!
Infra-red from lamps or the sun can heat up the humidity in air pockets in the plant and cause much higher temps than areas in the canopy close by.
Should have a slight breeze moving at all times through the entire canopy. This also helps significantly with keeping mold from breaking out.
Keep it Clean!
There is a root cause to plant leaves "taco-ing" which is the plant not being able to draw up enough water to properly transpire.
This can, however, be due to 5 different problems, and any sort of combination of them to make it more severe. (IOW you may have three of them happening at a low level but they add up.)
Those problems are:
1> Too much heat. Plant can't transpire quickly enough to cool itself off.
2> Incorrect humidity. Plant can't transpire properly.
3> Too much nutrient. The osmotic balance in the root zone is off, preventing the plant from transpiring.
4> Too much light. Leads to problems 1 and 2
5> Nutrient deficiency. Mg def looks like this; (praying for magnesium), and Potassium deficiency directly affects the plants' ability to move water and transpire.
(Nutrient deficiency can be due to either incorrect pH or a simple lack of nutrients.)
Again, these are cumulative. For example, if you have a hot, dry room, and are feeding heavily, you will see the "taco" effect much sooner.
Conversely, you can see this happen in a cool, wet room because the plant is suffering a nutrient deficiency due to it not transpiring enough.
... This is what makes the taco effect such a b!tch to figure out sometimes.... it can happen in such a wide range of conditions.
Hope this helps!
I'm starting to see the lleaf curl on the edges, the rolled joint look on some of my plants, out of the 5 too much lite may be the one?
not as severe as TC's pic on the 1st page.
ive never had this prob before, and like thirdcoast I'm in a sealed room now where i can control heat temps and RH
RH is around 55% lites on
do you guys have fans in the cab? are any blowing directly on the plants? how close to the leaves are the lights? hold your hand palm down over the leaf of the plant with lights on, is it too how for you after a minute or two? then it's too hot for your plant. the leaves curl up like that right on the margin because they are trying to trap moisture. it's either too hot there, otryour soil dries out too fast. another possibility could be magnesium def. but the rest of the leaf i can see doesn't look yellow...
but that plant in the lower right side of the first pic definitely has a mag def, and looks like a little bit of K too. does that plant look like this at the top also? if both of those plants look pale green and more dark in the center than the edges it's def mag def.
but that plant in the lower right side of the first pic definitely has a mag def, and looks like a little bit of K too. does that plant look like this at the top also? if both of those plants look pale green and more dark in the center than the edges it's def mag def.
You still haven't given temps, just the rh%.
If its above 75 in the room its a little too dry for them.
If its below 72 you would need to lower the RH a bit.
Research Vapor Pressure Deficit(VPD)
Those leaves look like they are on the bottom, so unless the top looks worse I wouldn't say its too much light. You will usually notice very light leaves with too much light.
I see tip burn and some of the leaves are deformed in the last pics.
It also looks like you've cut off half of some of the more burned up leaves...
If this is a mix you've had success with I guess you might be seeing a PH issue, but to me it looks like there's too much nute.
Peace
thanks for the reply coconutz
temps are around 78ish,
along with taco'ing the very tips of the are leaves curling down,
I agree... think I may have been a bit heavy on nutes, N as vapor said.
so only they've only been getting water with diluted myco madness/roots for a while.
the plants you see with bad leaves were taken from clones in perlite/verm. that were in need of nutes.
they were only under indirect lite and i put them to the edge of the 1000w footprint and it was still a bit too much, they are looking much better now.
this is my 1st run w/sealed room+Co2.
i had well over 70% rh with only 2 1ooow almps and a T5 running no matter the temps, when i turned on another 1000w lamp then i could get RH in the 60% range, plants are bigger now and i turned on the 4th lamp testerday and all 6 will be on within 2 days.
raising temps to 82 raises RH to around 65%
is there a chart with temps and RH for veg and bloom stages?
potassium, helps convert ammonium to proteins in plants, which lowers the foliar ammonium levels. so you could try a dose and see if it helps. Or just use a all nitrate fert, avoid all together ammoniacal sources of nitrogen. Looks like it slight toxicity, some plants more sensitive, some plants tips will roll up or down{ammoniacal nitrogen toxic} depending on the type of plant.{thai's for me}
That also looks like a watering issue too close to hot lights while dry can cause curl and yes back off the ferts imvho stay frosty headband 707
Primalraindrop
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Hi im the OP and to be honest. My ladies are fine. I Have GREATLY appreciated the info you wonderful people have provided thank you.
