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[Thomas Paine]

Hashish oil explosion injures two men and a child - Medford, OR

Hashish oil explosion injures two men and a child - Medford, OR

and another, this time another child was seriously injured...

Hashish oil explosion injures two men and a child

November 26, 2013
By Ryan Pfeil
Mail Tribune

Police said victims were making hash using butane when it ignited, and the resulting fire burned two men. A girl, 12, jumped from the burning apartment

Making hashish oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion that sent two men to a Portland burn center and put a 12-year-old girl in the hospital with broken bones.

The explosion occurred at 10:29 p.m. Monday at the Valley Pine Apartm ents at 645 Royal Ave. when butane used in hash oil preparation exploded, according to Medford police. The blast burned 27-year-old Edward Bryant Shelton and 34-year-old Andrew William Long, police said.

Long ran to nearby Providence Medford Medical Center for treatment of his burns. Shelton was found outside the apartment and taken to Providence. Both were transported to Legacy Oregon Burn Center in Portland, where they remain in critical condition, Legacy officials said Tuesday.

The 12-year-old girl jumped from a second-story balcony to escape the fire, breaking some bones when she hit the ground. She was treated and released at Asante Rogue Regional Medical Center. A 37-year-old male and 48-year-old female, the girl's mother, escaped without injury.

Four engines and 13 firefighters from Medford Fire-Rescue responded, meeting Medford police and Mercy Flights at the scene.

"It came in as an explosion, possible fire and also a possible burn victim," said Ken Goodson, battalion chief for Medford Fire-Rescue, adding the explosion was not an explosion in the traditional sense. "It was probably more of, I guess you would call it a flash fire."

Responders could see into No. 233, on the second floor of the three-story complex, from the street. Smoke poured from the porch door. Responders found 27-year-old Shelton outside on the ground, injured from burns.

Firefighters found a small fire burning in the kitchen. A moderate amount of smoke permeated the apartment, Goodson said. It took just a few minutes to extinguish the flames, leaving minimal damage to the home. No other units were damaged, he said.

Several aerosol cans and containers of butane were found in the room, investigators said.

Fire and police evacuated the building's other apartments while they investigated the scene. Fire crews left the scene at about 1 a.m.

Police said Oregon Medical Marijuana Program cardholders can legally prepare hash oil, though it was not known whether the residents had OMMP cards or how much marijuana was involved.

Medford police, the Medford Area Drug and Gang Enforcement Team, and Medford Fire-Rescue continue to investigate the case.

"We're going to be looking at this with some heavy scrutiny," said Lt. Mike Budreau of Medford police.

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20131126/NEWS07/311260350/-1/NEWS

 

[Gray Wolf]

Someone once told me that the 90/10 rule of thumb was flawed in thinking that 90% of the population was more or less instep, and 10% out, because of the number of folks in the 90% who aren't paying attention and unaware that steps are being taken.

I think it is safe to say that the dangers of extracting in an enclosed space with flammable liquid/gases, have been well publicized and those doing so publicly excoriated, yet some folks just keep doing it anyway.

That supports Maslow's summarizing statement that it is a mistake to forget that there is pathology in the populous and says scads more about the brothers and sisters who continue to do so, than mankind as a whole.

Since they also continue to do so in the presence of innocents, especially children and pets, it tells you that they are are sociopathic.

Here is a list of sociopathic tendencies, as listed at http://www.sociopathicstyle.com/psychopathic-traits/ . Consider that not everything is black and white, so use the list as a scale, rather that two polar opposites. A little good and a little bad in all of us......

The Hare Psychopathy Checklist – Revised

GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM — The tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.

GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH — A grossly inflated view of one’s abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.

NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM — An excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Psychopaths often have low self-discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.

PATHOLOGICAL LYING — Can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.

CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS — The use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one’s victims.

LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT — A lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, cold-hearted, and non-empathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one’s victims.

SHALLOW AFFECT — Emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness.

CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY — A lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.

PARASITIC LIFESTYLE — An intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities.

POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS — Expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.

PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR — A variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.

EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS — A variety of behaviors prior to age 13, including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away from home.

LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS — An inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.

IMPULSIVITY — The occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.

IRRESPONSIBILITY — Repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans, performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor contractual agreements.

FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS — A failure to accept responsibility for one’s actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.

MANY SHORT-TERM MARITAL RELATIONSHIPS — A lack of commitment to a long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable commitments in life, including marital.

JUVENILE DELINQUENCY — Behavior problems between the ages of 13-18; mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous, ruthless tough-mindedness.

REVOCATION OF CONDITION RELEASE — A revocation of probation or other conditional release due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.

CRIMINAL VERSATILITY — A diversity of types of criminal offenses, regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them; taking great pride at getting away with crimes.The word psychopath can be replaced with the word sociopath throughout this page. The meaning is very similar, if not the same.

 

[Thomas Paine]

Pot processing caused apartment explosion in campus area, police say

Pot processing caused apartment explosion in campus area, police say

Pot processing caused apartment explosion in campus area, police say

By Allison Manning
The Columbus Dispatch Friday November 22, 2013 5:52 AM

An explosion at a University District apartment on Wednesday afternoon was caused by two men using butane to turn marijuana into potent oil to be used in e-cigarettes, Columbus police said yesterday.

When police arrived at 1327 Dennison Ave. shortly before 1:30 p.m., they found more than a simple fire.

Windows had been blown out of the eight-unit building. A search warrant turned up 1,200 grams of marijuana, 16 grams of cocaine, 150 grams of hash, 36 unidentified pills, butane canisters and assault weapons, narcotics bureau Cmdr. Gary Cameron said.

Two men were using the butane to extract THC oil from the cannabis, Cameron said. The plan was to put the oil into electronic cigarettes for sale.

The explosion was the second in a week involving attempted oil extraction from marijuana. On Sunday afternoon, a man told Grove City police that he sprayed butane into a marijuana-packed 2-liter bottle and placed it in a freezer, causing an explosion at a town house on Walden Bluff Court.

Police there found a marijuana-growing operation that included 15 mature plants, 10 pounds of packaged marijuana, hallucinogenic mushrooms, 14 guns and information on cultivating marijuana.

William D. Lawrence, 30, was charged with two counts of illegal manufacture of drugs and two counts of drug possession. Grove City Police Capt. Jeff Pearson said that Lawrence apparently was planning to use the oil in e-cigarettes.

In the Columbus case, nobody has been charged, but detectives plan to present evidence to a grand jury. The two men showed up at Ohio State University’s Wexner Medical Center with second- and third-degree burns on their arms; one man remained there yesterday.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/11/21/Drug-process-caused-house-explosion.html

 

[Thomas Paine]

Radford University student dies after severe burns

Radford University student dies after severe burns

So it looks like the Radford man died from his injuries:

Radford University student dies after severe burns
Ryan Christopher Koon, 20, of Salem, died after suffering burns in an explosion on Nov. 20.

JORDAN FIFER | 981-3349
Sunday, December 1, 2013

A Radford University student died Thursday, a little more than a week after he was seriously burned in an explosion in Radford.

Ryan Christopher Koon, 20, of Salem, died from complications of surgery, according to his published obituary. He had been flown to the burn unit at Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center on Nov. 21 after a suspected butane hash oil lab ignited, officials said.

Officials at the time didn’t identify him, but Radford police Lt. Andy Wilburn said Saturday it was Koon who was severely burned in the explosion.

Emergency crews responded late Nov. 20 to the 300 block of Fourth Avenue, near Radford University, and found smoke coming from a home’s kitchen, Radford city spokeswoman Jenni Wilder said at the time.

After quelling the fire, an officer spotted numerous cans of butane on the floor of the kitchen and drug paraphernalia in two bedrooms.

An investigation then suggested a butane hash oil lab ignited and caused an explosion, Wilder said. There were three others in the house at the time, she said.

Butane hash oil, known as BHO, “honey oil” or “wax,” is a potent marijuana concentrate. It has become more popular in recent years and can be dangerously explosive.

Koon attended Salem High School, according to his Facebook page. He was studying computer science and working in technology support at the university, according to his obituary. He’s listed online as being a member of a student cyber defense club.

The incident remains under investigation, officials have said.

http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/2418936-12/radford-university-student-dies-after-severe-burns.html

 

[Gray Wolf]

This tops anything I could make up.

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/12/05/3356370/man-charged-in-car-explosion.html

 

[gaiusmarius]

This tops anything I could make up.

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/12/05/3356370/man-charged-in-car-explosion.html

oh man it's just unbelievable how stupid and down right irresponsible some folks behave. his 2 year old daughter with him while blasting in the CAR ! un fucking believable!

 

[gaiusmarius]

Ok guys, I guess I have to come clean.

I have never actually blasted any erl before - never made any BHO

Never been to jail.
Never smoked Spice or used any hard drugs (well I did shrooms once)
I've never even grown any pot before.
All the pics I post I just find on the internet, sorry if anyone feels like I am stealing your images. Please email me and I will take them down.

I am also only 20 (but I'm turning 21 next month)

I just wanted to fit in with all of you.

You are all seem really really cool and I felt like I had to make up something just to fit in...

I'm really sorry about all this.

Hope you understand.

thanks for coming clean, i was wondering why all your posts are basically anti cannabis in one way or another. u must have posted hundreds of bho explosions all over this site. in fact i don't find any posts from you indicating that you are a friend of this wonderful plant that we all revere? to the contrary you posts seem to be a collection of every negative mention of cannabis related activity. no growing, no smoking, no oil making or hash making posts?

maybe you should put: Anti Cannabis Crusader under your nick? just so people know where you are coming from.

 

[nattynattygurrl]

someone must have hacked/hijacked his account…???

 

[jump /injack]

http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/Explosion-at-Apartment-Complex-Injurs-One-234952211.html

A man trying to make hash oil with a butane torch in his bathroom caused an explosion that "significantly" damaged an apartment, according to Colorado Springs Police.
It happened shortly after 10:00 p.m. Saturday at the Grandview Apartments located on the 2500 block of E. Pikes Peak Ave.
Police say the man left the apartment before they arrived, but was found later and taken to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.
No other apartments were damaged because of the explosion and no one else was hurt, according to police.
Colorado Springs police, fire, and arson units are investigating the incident.
No arrests have been made.

"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."

Burns of a 2nd and 3rd Degree type associated with Butane type explosions below:

http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841

Gray Wolf's safety tips below.

http://skunkpharmresearch.com/butane-safety/

 

[Thomas Paine]

2 injured in fire at Vista home; dog rescued

2 injured in fire at Vista home; dog rescued

Another dog injured:

2 injured in fire at Vista home; dog rescued
UT San Diego
By Debbi Baker and Teri Figueroa6:46 A.M.DEC. 9, 2013Updated2:03

VISTA, CALIFORNIA — Two people were injured, a dog was rescued and two men were arrested after a fire in Vista Monday morning destroyed the back half of a house where authorities found a marijuana-growing operation inside the dwelling.

The blaze at the one-story home on Vale Terrace Drive off Foothill Drive was reported at 5:47 a.m., Deputy Fire Chief Ned Vander Pol said. When firefighters arrived, the rear of the home was heavily involved in flames and the roof had collapsed, he said.

A woman and man who were both injured got out on their own. The woman was airlifted to a burn center, and the man was taken to a hospital in an ambulance, Vander Pol said.

Firefighters pulled a Labrador retriever out of the house and gave it oxygen using a donated mask made specially for canines. The dog was then taken to a veterinarian.

Twenty-four firefighters, including crews from Carlsbad, had the flames contained at 6:11 a.m., Vander Pol said.

The two arrests came after investigators found marijuana plants growing in the garage, and a honey oil extraction operation outside the house, Turner said. The oil is a concentrated liquid form of marijuana.

A space heater apparently sparked the fire, sheriff’s Lt. Hank Turner said.

Vista residents Tyrone Williams, 37, and Isaac Bowers, 39, were each arrested on charges of growing marijuana and possessing it for sale, tampering with an electrical apparatus and stealing electricity.

U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration spokeswoman Amy Roderick said 16 marijuana plants were what was left following the blaze.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/dec/09/fire-burns-vista-home/

 

[jump /injack]

http://www.tahoedailytribune.com/news/9384728-113/apartment-truckee-arrested-hash


TRUCKEE, Calif. — Four people were arrested Sunday on suspicion of drug manufacturing and child endangerment following a chemical explosion inside a Truckee apartment.
Police and fire officials responded to a reported grease fire at about 2:30 p.m. at the Truckee Pines apartment complex at 10100 Estates Drive, according to the Truckee Police Department.
Authorities determined the fire was caused by a small chemical explosion “when several subjects were trying to make hash oil from marijuana,” police said in a statement.
One of the apartment’s occupants, Anthony Thomas Garner, 20, of Truckee, suffered moderate burns and was treated at Tahoe Forest Hospital.

[They were blasting inside with a child in the house, the 4 people are looking at a cumulative sentence in jail of 120 years]

 

[jump /injack]

http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/Hash-Oil-Trending-Hitting-Virginia-236293081.html?ref=081


HARRISONBURG, Va. (WHSV) -- Hash oil, it's a growing West Coast drug trend that has made its way to Virginia.
It's already killed one Radford college student and now local drug enforcement agents are on high alert.
"We know it's probably coming to this area. We've dealt with hash oil in a couple of cases that have been brought in from outside areas kind of thing where we tracked the intelligence back, outside of Rockingham County," said Special Agent Mark Campbell with the RUSH Drug Task Force, who is training his officers to recognize hash oil.
It's derived from marijuana and uses THC, the potent chemical in marijuana, to give users a high.
Some of the ingredients in hash oil are legal and sold in stores.
One of those includes butane fuel; however, some stores require you to enter your birth date to purchase the fuel to confirm you are over 18 years old.

One danger of this illegal drug is the threat of an explosion because of butane fuel.
"It could be the static electricity off of your clothes, anything that's an ignition source or anything that will cause a spark," said Campbell.
Just last month, Radford University student Ryan Koon died and Radford Police said a butane hash oil lab caused the house fire.
Campbell said if there was a lab here, the clean up would be handled exactly like a meth lab operation.
"Because the potential for the explosion, the potential for the things to go bad with the gas that's used or the chemicals that are used," said Campbell.
Campbell also said training officers and letting others know the dangers of the drug is key to stopping it.
"Unless you know what it looks like it could mimic an improvised explosion device. They actually look like pipe bombs, if you don't know what you're looking at," said Campbell.
After trying to talk with Koon's parents, his mother said her son's death was just too soon and too raw to talk about.


[There will be new Federal Laws because of this and the closed system of extraction should be exempt. I've seen no problems or explosions while using this system; under 30 years old, blasting inside and using tubes seems to be the thread going thru all the explosions and fires.]

 

[Thomas Paine]

3 this week

3 this week

Brooklyn teens burned in marijuana lab explosion charged
BY ROCCO PARASCANDOLA / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

PUBLISHED: WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 18, 2013, 1:20 PM


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...harged-police-article-1.1551702#ixzz2nuAdCtMZ

Anthony Gambale, 19, and his girlfriend, Gabriella Katanov, 17, face counts of reckless endangerment, criminal possession of marijuana and criminal use of drug paraphernalia after their alleged attempt to make ‘earwax,’a potent version of marijuana, left them badly burned.

The two Brooklyn teens badly burned when their drug lab blew up have been hit with charges of reckless endangerment, criminal possession of marijuana and criminal use of drug paraphernalia, cops said Wednesday.

It was not clear when Anthony Gambale, 19, and his girlfriend, Gabriella Katanov, 17, would be arraigned, as each suffered second- and third-degree burns on their hands and upper bodies.

The childhood friends, who have been dating for seven months, nearly killed themselves early Tuesday trying to make “earwax” in the garage of the Marine Park home where Gambale lives, police said.

Police said the couple had filled a 30-gallon tub with cannabis and soaked it in butane in an effort to make earwax, a highly potent version of marijuana. The butane ignited when one lit a cigarette.
Gambale and Gabriella were rushed to Staten Island University Hospital, where they remain in serious condition, said Luba Poukhova, Gabriella’s mother.

“Their lungs are good . . . but from the waist up, all burned. Her hands, too. She could be in the hospital for a year. She needs surgery. The doctors said it will get worse every day,” the devastated mother told the Daily News.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...harged-police-article-1.1551702#ixzz2nuB23aoi

 

[Thomas Paine]

Butane extraction to capture hash oil causes explosion at Longmont house; 2 men hospi

Butane extraction to capture hash oil causes explosion at Longmont house; 2 men hospi

Butane extraction to capture hash oil causes explosion at Longmont house; 2 men hospitalized

Posted: 12/18/2013 for 7NEWS

The Denver Channel

LONGMONT, Colo. - Two men trying to extract hash oil from marijuana by using flammable butane gas were injured when it exploded in the garage of a Longmont home on Wednesday afternoon, police said.

The blast happened about 12:40 p.m. at 30 James Circle, near Missouri Avenue and South Pratt Parkway, said Longmont Police Cmdr. Jeff Satur.

Neighbors hearing the blast ran over to help and saw the garage door was open and two men were on fire -- their clothes were burning, Satur said.

One of the men ran off and one of the men was packing and throwing things in the garbage. One of the men told the neighbors not to call police, but neighbors did.

Paramedics took two men to Longmont United Hospital -- one with severe burns who had to be transferred to a burn unit, and one man who had burns to his face, Satur said. A third man was not injured.

Investigators believe the men were extracting hash oil -- or a high concentrate of THC -- using butane. They had the marijuana highly packed and were spraying butane through the marijuana, trying to capture the oils from the pot.

But the butane vapor built up and was somehow ignited, causing the small explosion and fire, Satur said.

There was a small marijuana grow operation in the basement that was recently harvested, Satur said.

The marijuana grow was legal, but the hazardous hash oil processing is not, Satur said.

All three men now face charges of felony arson and endangerment, Satur said. They have not been identified.

The last time this type of explosion occurred in Longmont was in October 2012, when a man doing a similar THC extraction was smoking at the same time and ignited the vapors, Satur said.

Similar hash-oil processing explosions have occurred in towns around Colorado.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...capture-hash-oil-causes-explosion-in-longmont

 

[jump /injack]

"The last time this type of explosion occurred in Longmont was in October 2012, when a man doing a similar THC extraction was smoking at the same time and ignited the vapors," Satur said.

What is it about Butane that makes people stupid, does it run in the family? Did this man's father work in a dynamite factory and get killed in an explosion while smoking a cigar? Why hasn't some of these idiots made the Darwin list? They all break the cardinal rule, don't do butane extraction inside and thats right up there with don't put your dick in a pencil sharpener.

 

[SkyHighLer]

"The last time this type of explosion occurred in Longmont was in October 2012, when a man doing a similar THC extraction was smoking at the same time and ignited the vapors," Satur said.

What is it about Butane that makes people stupid, does it run in the family? Did this man's father work in a dynamite factory and get killed in an explosion while smoking a cigar? Why hasn't some of these idiots made the Darwin list? They all break the cardinal rule, don't do butane extraction inside and thats right up there with don't put your dick in a pencil sharpener.

Our experience is with solvents that are liquid at ambient temperatures, such as alcohol, acetone, paint thinners, and gasoline. The mistake being made is equating our experience with these to some liquid butane sitting in a dish.

The common solvents we work with daily, when spilled and ignited, flash up and then burn on and on as the liquid slowly vaporizes before combustion. Spill a dish of butane and ignite it and it instantly vaporizes on contact with anything above it's boiling point of about 35F, and then flashes completely, explosion!

Sure we use propane torches and BBQ grills, but we don't have experience with the danger of quantities of exposed flammable liquids that are gases at ambient.

That's the answer, but I don't know how to word it to get the point across.

 

[jump /injack]

http://www.redding.com/news/2013/dec/20/fire-reported-mobile-home-park-redding/

Redding Fire Department firefighters respond to a mobile home fire today at the Riverside Mobile Home Park on North Market Street in Redding. A 49-year-old man was injured in the fire.
A 49-year-old man was seriously injured today while he attempted to extract hash oil from marijuana inside his mobile home, Redding fire officials said.
John Keller suffered second-degree burns on his hands, arms, head and face and taken to a local hospital, Redding fire inspector Craig Wittner said.
The incident, dispatched just after 11:45 a.m. at the Riverside Mobile Home Park at 901 N. Market St., was quickly extinguished.
According to Wittner, the man told firefighters he was cooking in the kitchen when the fire started. Firefighters found drug paraphernalia in the house and called the Redding Police Department to come investigate. Firefighters ventilated the home and waited until it was safe to initiate their investigation.
Wittner said the fire was sparked when the man injected butane into a marijuana-filled copper cylinder.
It flashed and ignited the combustibles immediately around the kitchen.
Neighbors told firefighters they heard what sounded like a whistle and a loud boom.
Keller, who was on fire, walked out of his home seeking help, Keller said. A neighbor came to his aid.
This is the second hash oil explosion firefighters have had to extinguish in the city. Firefighters on Oct. 9 were called to an apartment on Olive Street.
In that incident, a woman was taken to a hospital with minor burns.

Another extraction done in the privacy of their home, the real hurt will come when he's doing 3 to 7 years.

 

[Thomas Paine]

That is 4 in one week - so far. We still have today and Sunday.

They all break the cardinal rule, don't do butane extraction inside and thats right up there with don't put your dick in a pencil sharpener.

In reality, it should ONLY BE DONE INSIDE, with a proper chemical fume hood, wearing non-synthetic clothing, and in a lab licensed to use gases like n-butane.

Also, most people's "outside" is a residential backyard, next to other homes. Or on a deck right next to the house, or on a porch hanging off an apartment complex. The garage is always filled with half-used mastercases of butane. And children are usually inside the house.

 

[Crooked8]

Wouldnt hoods be ineffective since butane fumes sink?

 

[Gray Wolf]

Depends on how the fume hood is vented.

As you note, butane is heavier than air and its vapors try to sink and pool, as do some other solvents, so I built our hood with the makup air acting as an air knife at the bottom, sweeping any low hanging vapors toward an exhaust slot in the exhaust plenum's bottom, and have a second exhaust slot at the top to capture lighter than air vapors.

We run about 2000 surface feet velocity at the intake slot and the make up air is gravity fed outdoor air. A door with a polycarbonate window closes the exhaust hood and cabinet from the lab, so as to not stink up the lab or screw up our HVAC.

Even with the exhaust system, we still do not open extract indoors, or purge off visable pools of butane indoors.

We have one automated Mk II fully enclosed extraction system in an indoor lab, separated from other structures and in an enclosed spark free cabinet. It has exhaust slots on two sides at the bottom and air is blown in from the top, so as to force any heavier than air accumulation out the slots. Air is replaced in the cabinet about once every three seconds.

We've operated all of our other systems thus far outdoors, because even though they are fully enclosed, something can go wrong. In a fully enclosed system, the leaks tend to be small, but I once over pressurized the Mk I test sled and the lid seal started leaking at a significant rate. Enough of a rate that it would have been a problem, had it been indoors and an ignition source present.

The Mk IV and Mk V are designed to use a pressure relief valve, that vents excess pressure away through a hose to a safer location and since the systems are not regularly broken down and stored, all the stainless overbraided PTFE hoses, wither use an NPT connection, or a copper crusher at the flare connection, instead of an elastomer, so the most likely location of leaks is triclamp connections or valve stems.

They use two bolt high pressure Triclamp connections, so except for carelessness, they are unlikely to leak, leaving valve stem leaks.

All the valves used have adjustable stem packing nuts, but still have to be regularly replaced due to stem wear, or in the case of the main dump valve, rebuilt.

There are valves (expensive) available that have bellows protecting any stem leaks, and which would make the systems even more fail safe, but the key word here is more, because we've yet to make one that we can guarantee to be leak free regardless of how it is treated or operated.

In all my professional years installing high integrity helium and argon inert gas systems in aerospace, I was never able to achieve any system that remained leak free over the long haul, even using high integrity inert services valves and piping, so I don't expect to do so now. Shit happens, and things go wrong...................