Designated Growers Corner

[vapor]

Exactly they will lie just to bust you and cause you massive head aches! Even if it is never going to make it to trial. These cops lie all day i am surprised they can find there way home at night....

 

[ortsa1]

i thought someone would have commented on my FLIR post of calgary, you can essentially spot grow houses now (usually really big ones air in/out) right from google maps from the comfort of your own home

guess everyone is to down dwelling about the mmar

 

[leaffan]

i thought someone would have commented on my FLIR post of calgary, you can essentially spot grow houses now (usually really big ones air in/out) right from google maps from the comfort of your own home

guess everyone is to down dwelling about the mmar

I did notice your post.
Huge implications for sure.

 

[bigbag]

they make reflective material and hoods with a % of Lead that supposedly blocks FLIR, but is $$$

 

[ortsa1]

they make reflective material and hoods with a % of Lead that supposedly blocks FLIR, but is $$$

thats magic beans to part growers with more of their money after they finish spending most on magic nutrients

if you dump heat outside flir can see it there is no way to stop it.

if you water cool everything or have a sealed room thats insulated is pretty much the only way. even if you use a mini split when you are dumping the heat outside from the condensing unit.

consumer model flit will be out possibly next year for sub 400 dollars with high enough resolution to spot your grow from the street as well

 

[vapor]

I have heard of folks buy 4 x 8 of lead coated sheets,and lining the grow room.big mola.....

 

[med-man]

green planet sells chopper stopper in rolls

and seal your rooms. it will register a bit, but not like an outtake

med-man

 

[Buds Bundy]

green planet sells chopper stopper in rolls

and seal your rooms. it will register a bit, but not like an outtake

med-man

Black and White with mylar glued to it. Just get mylar or even Flashgrow, insulate the crap out of your room with proper insulation. Plexiglass works pretty good to stop IR leaks. Also don't have your bulbs close to what ever surface you don't want to radiate heat.

At the end of the day if someone wanted to they can get a flir gun and just check your meter. Then you can tell how much power is running through the meter.

 

[Green Supreme]

Hydro uses those laser temp units and aim it at you hydro drop wire. Peace GS

 

[Buds Bundy]

Hydro uses those laser temp units and aim it at you hydro drop wire. Peace GS

I never though about the meter till a customer told me that after going to town in insulating his grow room with all the "heat proof" poly and extra insulation and etc... his buddy who does electrical/house environmental work told him to light up the room and pointed a flir gun at his meter. By looking at the color of the meter he could tell how much power was being drawn though the line.

1-3 lights no one will really produce enough heat to have to worry about it. Get extra charcoal/oxone/uv filters and pump the heat back into the house.

 

[Pangea]

FORMAL MEDIA RELEASE NOV 30TH 2013


FEDERAL CLASS ACTION LAUNCHED CHALLENGING HEALTH CANADA'S CHANGES TO
THE MEDICAL MARIHUANA LAWS ON BEHALF OF PATIENTS AND CAREGIVERS

Class Action Suit alleges that the changes to the Medical Marihuana laws taking away the right to personally produce or have a caregiver do so, prohibiting dwelling house and outdoor production and limiting possession to "dried marihuana" only and other restrictions violate the constitutional rights of patients.

VANCOUVER (November 29, 2013) - A proposed national class action suit has been filed in the Federal Court of Canada in Vancouver against the Federal government (Health Canada) seeking various declarations as to the unconstitutionality of the proposed changes to the medical marihuana laws amending the Narcotic Control Regulations, repealing the Medical Marihuana Access Regulations and implementing the Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.

The representative proposed Class Action was commenced November 29th, 2013 by four representative Plaintiffs on behalf of all persons ordinarily resident in Canada who have been medically approved to use cannabis as medicine whether under the Narcotic Control Regulations, the Medical Marihuana Access Regulations or the Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations.

The action seeks constitutional declarations that all medically approved patients have the constitutional right to not only produce their medicine for themselves but if they are unable to do so, to have a caregiver do so for them, and to use Cannabis in any of its effective forms and not be limited to just "dried marihuana". Also that patients or caregivers can continue to produce in a 'dwelling house' and outdoors and should not be limited in other proposed respects such as limiting the maximum amount that a patient can possess to 150 grams. The suit alleges that the new Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations (MMPR) are unconstitutional to the extent that they omit the right to continue to personally produce or have a caregiver do so and unreasonably limit the s.7 Charter constitutional rights of medically approved patients in the Narcotic Control Regulations, as in the Medical Marihuana Access Regulations and the Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations by limiting possession, sale and provision to "dried marihuana" only, contrary to the decision of the British Columbia Supreme Court in R. v. Smith 2012 BCSC 544 (on appeal to the BCCA) as well as other aspects. Orders in the nature of interim and permanent exemption/injunctions will be sought to exempt individuals medically approved from the change in the law pending the hearing of this matter and thereafter or alternatively restraining and preserving the provisions of the MMAR until such time as the government makes appropriate amendments to ensure the full ambit and scope of the patient's constitutional right is protected without any unreasonable, inconsistent and unnecessary restrictions.

Health Canada as of April 2013 authorized the production of 188,189 kilograms of cannabis marihuana to be produced under the MMAR under the various licences during 2012. As of November 1st there were only three licenced producers approved to produce and supply patients with cannabis marihuana. The MMPR repeals the MMAR personal production and designated grower provisions effective March 31st, 2014, a mere 4 months from now. It is anticipated that these licenced producers and any others that come into existence between now and March 31st, 2014 will not be able to produce a sufficient quantity to ensure that all of the approved patients have a safe continuous access and supply as of March 31st, 2014.

According to Health Canada as of July 15th, 2013, there were 35,445 persons authorized to possess cannabis for medical purposes in Canada broken down into 24,185 holding personal production licences, 4,251 holding designated grower licences and 6,027 accessing Health Canada's supply through the government contractor Prairie Plant Systems. While 27,000 of the licences are issued to produce entirely indoors, 3,000 of them were issued to produce entirely outdoors and 2,670 to produce indoors in the winter and outdoors in the summer. Producing outdoors is a substantial cost saver in terms of electricity and some 60-70% of the permit holders are indicated to be on disability pensions. The Plaintiffs say they will not be able to afford the estimated price of the medicine from the licenced producers created under the Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations as the sole producers. Most of those with personal production licences produce in their dwelling house as they cannot afford to rent space elsewhere, and they save substantially on electricity costs by partial outdoor production.

Consequently the Class seeks to maintain its ability of each of its members to produce for themselves or have a caregiver to produce for them or, if they can afford it, to purchase their medicine from a licenced producer and that to force patients to access their medicine at a price they cannot afford from only licenced producers does not constitute a "viable constitutional exemption" that ensures a reasonable safe and continuous supply of medicine for the patients. The Class also seeks to ensure access to juicing and other extracts by patients across the country and to maintain their ability to grow in a 'dwelling house' as well as outdoors, and to not be otherwise unreasonably limited in terms of possession.

All persons who have been medically approved in Canada for the possession and use of cannabis whether under the Narcotic Control Regulations, the Marihuana Medical Access Regulations as a patient and producer or more recently under the Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations are asked to go to www.johnconroy.com and click on the "MMAR" button and register by the completion of a victim impact statement so that we can assess whether or not to introduce your case and evidence into the action or email reception@johnconroy.com to be added to the list of members of the Class wishing to participate in this Class Action.

For more information please contact:

http://www.johnconroy.com/

JOHN W. CONROY, Q.C.
Conroy & Company
2459 Pauline Street
Abbotsford, BC V2S 3S1
reception@johnconroy.com
Telephone: 604-852-5110
Facsimile: 604-859-3361

 

[Green Supreme]

Thanks for putting that up. Fingers crossed. Peace GS

 

[hvac guy]

Hydro uses those laser temp units and aim it at you hydro drop wire. Peace GS

That's exactly what they, the temp corresponds to the amperage. Sometimes they check the temp on the pole mount transformer as well if your location is the the only supply for that transformer. I've seen them use a shotgun (linesman stick) and clamp the NSC and check the amperage that way.

 

[hvac guy]

If you go to CSO Online and search Health Canada that will say if a "style of cause" has been filed, even if it was, it's only a couple hundred $ to file.

 

[hvac guy]

If this class action suit was filed in Vancouver, I searched CSO Online for "Health Canada" as the organization in the statement of claim and nothing came up.

 

[growshopfrank]

and in ontario http://www.marijuanaclassaction.com/

 

[BC*Dankster*]

Liability insurance?

Liability insurance?

Hey I know this doesnt have anything to do with this thread, but didnt know where else to post. All of a sudden our landlord for the warehouse wants liability insurance, and says its urgent. Only 4 months to go, is it worth getting? Where would we get it, and anyone know how much it is? Or can we stall til end of march>? Thoughts greatly appreciated...

 

[romulanlover]

Hey I know this doesnt have anything to do with this thread, but didnt know where else to post. All of a sudden our landlord for the warehouse wants liability insurance, and says its urgent. Only 4 months to go, is it worth getting? Where would we get it, and anyone know how much it is? Or can we stall til end of march>? Thoughts greatly appreciated...

not worth getting; you can get it (when i checked a few months ago); and it's a few grand a year at least.

I'd stall

 

[ortsa1]

anyone know if address changers are aloud still with the MMAR ?

ie, from houses being compromised from health canada indiscreet letters

 

[Canada]

anyone know if address changers are aloud still with the MMAR ?

ie, from houses being compromised from health canada indiscreet letters

Weather or not health Canada permits it don't you think its your right ? People all over the country are so if you feel unsafe then don't just stay there get to a safe place its not your fault