Whats with all this white stuff floating around ?

[DamnUglyDogE]

OK... so for the last month or so I have had something floating around.

For a few weeks it would land on leaves and you could clearly see it all over the place...

Like white dust and really small pieces of paper...


I've only use pro control bombs once and a sulfur vapor treatment once after BM issues I suffered...

I've washed all fans and the room a couple times with dish soap and water a couple times trying to get ride of whatever this is...

Though not as bad as it once was its still around....

Is not alive nor does it seem to cause any negative effect on my plants....
Yet my filters and fans get covered withing days...

Any ideas ?

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You can see the difference in 48 hours of the black filter for the humidity fan.

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[yortbogey]

bet it's some kind of local pollen....form U'r area.... check too see what pollen counts are up and active, in U'r specific area....

 

[johnnybravo]

U got an ultrasonic fogger going?

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

bet it's some kind of local pollen....form U'r area.... check too see what pollen counts are up and active, in U'r specific area....

Good pull man but seems there's no activity in my area.

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Was thinking some kind of pm yet
what does land on the leave can be blown right off..
Like dust. .lol...

I left some on the plants for a week to see if it did anything ...
Nope. . Blew right off and left no trace. .

Thinking perhaps salts from my nutrient mix...
Seems a stretch though. .
Would need a boat load of salts in the air.
I would think,I would taste them like at the ocean ...

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

U got an ultrasonic fogger going?

2 - Oldschool foggers going.

RH between 60-80

 

[johnnybravo]

Ultrasonic foggers in nutrient rich water will do that.

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

Ultrasonic foggers in nutrient rich water will do that.

humm...

I suppose it could be something in my tap water...
Only using tap water with these...

As you can see these really kick out the mist...
I have 2 going at a time for the whole room...

I need a fan blowing to keep the moisture off the leaves
and the humidity in the cherry spot..

 

[johnnybravo]

Put ro water in that tank and see what happens

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

Put ro water in that tank and see what happens

Good idea johnny...

I'll pick up a few gallons of distilled water and run that for awhile...

 

[johnnybravo]

Update?

 

[Ickis]

Some vaporizers will put a good layer of white dust over everything if you use hard water in them. You might notice that some models advertise on the box "Dust Free". So johnnybravo is probably right. But it might just have to be hard water with calcium or sulphur.

What kind of old school fogger you use? I need something inexpensive or DIY.

 

[Granger2]

This works well for me, and the price is OK. Covers 800 sq.ft. and is simple to use. The hygrometer and humidistat on the unit seems pretty accurate, jibes with the one on my dehum.
http://www.grainger.com/product/ESSICK-AIR-PRODUCTS-Portable-Humidifier-2PYG2?s_pp=false

Get extra wicks. Put a little peroxide in the water. RO is best. Grainger has many other models. Good luck. -granger

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

This works well for me, and the price is OK. Covers 800 sq.ft. and is simple to use. The hygrometer and humidistat on the unit seems pretty accurate, jibes with the one on my dehum.
http://www.grainger.com/product/ESSICK-AIR-PRODUCTS-Portable-Humidifier-2PYG2?s_pp=false

Get extra wicks. Put a little peroxide in the water. RO is best. Grainger has many other models. Good luck. -granger

Thats funny...

I have this one as well..

Mine had a green light on it that bugged me...lol

Great unit though....

I think I got mine new at the swapmeet/ Flea market for $5.00

Didnt know they cost that much...

Need to get my bad boy on ebay...
Slightly used... $42.50 + $17.50 shipping...


Thanks for the tip on peroxide... I will try that after my test run with bottled water...
RO is on next seasons list of needs...lol

Thanks Granger2

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

Update?

I get the feeling you nailed it on the head,bro...
It's from my tap water mixed in with a touch of cat hair...
Ive been working in the room and leaving the door open much more that usual during the day....

Ickis~
Some vaporizers will put a good layer of white dust over everything if you use hard water in them. You might notice that some models advertise on the box "Dust Free". So johnnybravo is probably right. But it might just have to be hard water with calcium or sulphur.

What kind of old school fogger you use? I need something inexpensive or DIY.

After finding a layer of fine white dust sitting on my light mover.
I decided to clean everything from head to toe and went out,
picked up some bottles of water...

Going to run this for a few days and see whats up...

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Im in the process of set the room up for the next run and should be getting these fired back up tonight....

I just realized there the same maker...lol
DeVILBISS

These things kick out tons of visible mist....

The newer one had a price tag for $14.99...
I got these for $5.00 each...

Got to love the swap meets...

 

[johnnybravo]

Got a link for that alien?

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

Link for ...
Swap meet ... ?
It's a outdoor flea market.

Salvation army, thrift stores would be a good place to look for one.

Good hunting, bro. .

 

[Thachrizzy]

Crazy...

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

Great !!! Another learning experience....

So it is the tap water through the humidifier
that is causing this white dust...

I ran bottled water for 2 days and just a hint of white dust showed on the filter.

I ran tap water that sat for a couple days and added h202...
Filter is covered white once again....

Screw it I say and it Google searching time...

This is what i come up with...

Cause:

With certain types of ultrasonic cool mist humidifiers, white dust may appear on or around the unit after use. While nothing to be alarmed about, it's important to know what it is.

White dust is the residue from minerals in water
As water is vaporized and turned into mist, mineral residue is released at a molecular level
Depending on the kinds of minerals in the drinking water, the makeup of this white dust will differ
Keeping the humidifier clean is a daily ritual. This helps prevent the growth of bacteria and/or mold. Use distilled water in the humidifier or install a sink water filter to remove minerals from tap water to minimize mineral residue.

Prevention:

The white dust can be prevented by using distilled water or a demineralization cartridge in ultrasonic humidifiers

distilled water

Distilled water is regular water that has been turned to steam and recondensed. Particles do not turn to water vapor and so are left out in the bottom of the boiling vats. It would likely cost a fair bit to boil away the teakettle into a slanted receptacle....would warm and humidify the house of course.

MUCH CHEAPER - FREE after you build it - and MUCH SAFER are SOLAR POWERED WATER PURIFIERS. Even a klutz like me, with substandard house tools, can make one in less than an afternoon using plans available FREE on line at places like kids science/survivalist sites. Their basic design is simply a shallow trough (or even a kiddy pool) with angled or A-frame glass or even heavy mil plastic over them. The heat of the sun evaporates the water and it condenses on the glass. The glass is angled so that when the water condenses on it and builds into droplets gravity runs it over to the lower side into a clean gathering area (another trough, a jug set under under a drainhole or whatever). You can use any type of water for this, because the impurities are left on the dirty side.

Demineralization:

what exactly is demineralized water?
Water is, flat out, an amazing solvent.
It dissolves small amounts of nearly everything it touches.
These various substances are then mingled in with the water as positively or negatively charged ions.

As it relates to what’s in your drinking water,
you’ll better know these ions as calcium, magnesium, arsenic, aluminum, potassium, etc.
Average municipal water has a huge variety of ions that are constantly combining, separating and recombining
forming potentially millions of molecular substances,
depending on the specific water chemistry.

Demineralized water has been deionized,
meaning the ions (minerals) have been
removed by any of several possible methods
including deionization water filters, reverse osmosis or distillation.

Deionization
Deionizing water is a process that uses ion exchange resins to remove ionized salt from the water. This process can theoretically remove all traces of salt from water. In practice, this process also removes harmful things such as viruses, bacteria and organic materials. Commercial grade deionization equipment also not only removes the ionized salt molecules, sodium, but they replace them with hydrogen to soften the water.

Demineralization
Demineralization is often a term used interchangeably with deionization. Demineralization is essentially removing all the minerals that can be found in natural water. This process is usually done when the water will be used for chemical processes and the minerals present may interfere with the other chemicals. All chemistic and beauty products have to be made with demineralized water for this reason.

Key Differences
Deionization and demineralization, while being similar, have key differences. Deionization removes ionized salt from the water. Demineralization removes minerals from the water such as calcium, magnesium and many others. Much of the drinking water that we consume goes through both processes.

So It looks like I need a
Demineralization cartridge

demineralization found on Ebay



Being that im a cheap ass and all
cost add up at the end of the day.

I dont want to pay for water.
Not interested in paying for a cartridge either...

Would anyone have a good DIY for a demineralization filter ?

 

[BrnCow]

We had a humidifier in the house last winter and tried running tap water in it. Low and behold, clogged the damn thing up and wouldn't run! Cleaned it out and ran RO and distilled water and it fixed it...never saw so much trash out of it...that stuff looks like the fiber we used to get out of the old water cooler pads...might have a double problem....minerals and trash from one of the filters

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

We had a humidifier in the house last winter and tried running tap water in it. Low and behold, clogged the damn thing up and wouldn't run! Cleaned it out and ran RO and distilled water and it fixed it...never saw so much trash out of it...that stuff looks like the fiber we used to get out of the old water cooler pads...might have a double problem....minerals and trash from one of the filters

Yep... I have a pet hair problem.
Ive been doing a lot of work in the room
with the door left open and not closing the tent...

2 dog + 2 cats = lots o hair...lol

GF wont let me shave them...Yet....