Herm confirm please, 3 weeks in

[skunk_valley]

I am 75% sure this here church just went lady boy on me but would appreciate some feedback before I chop it down.

The photos are from "the church" 3 weeks into flower. The suspected male flowers have been spotted on the underside of the female clusters. I tried to be helpful and added a pointer for easy reference. Let me know if you want a better pic, these were the best I could do.





Appreciate the feedback, hate to waste 4 months but need to get her out and replaced if she is a lady boy.

SV

 

[bigshrimp]

looks like it - lots of em you say?

 

[Al Botross]

I dont think so, just look like a more mature calyx, Dudes have groups of balls and they're on a stalk. IE,....are the nuts hanging off the main stalk?......from the pictures i see its not a male.........

 

[skunk_valley]

looks like it - lots of em you say?

It's only 3 weeks in so there arent a ton, female flowers definitely outnumber them by 6 to 1 ratio.

I dont think so, just look like a more mature calyx, Dudes have groups of balls and they're on a stalk. IE,....are the nuts hanging off the main stalk?......from the pictures i see its not a male.........

They are consistently appearing below the top female clusters, amongst them in some cases.

I plucked a few and the...(for lack of a better term) the balls are growing from withinin a calyx, I inspected the balls and when I press down on the top, it pops open in 4-5 segments, all shaped like little bananas...I am pretty convinced at this point. What are the chances they will be sterile? In the past when I was growing trainwreck, I could almost predict when the nanners would hit an knew they were sterile and not to worry but this is my first time with the church so I am not so familiar. While my google fu is blackbelt level, seems like there isnt much info on whether or not I can let it ride.

From femmed seed, should have listened to my gut.

SV

 

[bigshrimp]

Cant tell you whats right for your situation but i would get that outta there especially if you have other plants. this early and that many sacs, it could turn real nasty later.

no way to tell if they are sterile or if it will continue to produce nanners.

 

[Mikenite69]

I think that looks like a calyx to me also. I can take pictures of my plants right now in flower and show you also. If you ever flowered out auto plants you will also notice this happen where there aren't even buds. You would notice if they were balls there would be clusters of them. Also you have to read ojd from connasuer genetics about male parts showing up on fem seeds early in flower and they actually will disappear as she starts flowering.

I wouldn't worry about it if it was a ball pull it off and try to rock the plant out if they came back then chuck the plant many people have finished plants successfully with pulling a couple random balls off.

Also if it is balls you might wanna check your grow conditions for light leaks and whatever other variables that would contribute to getting balls. If everything is dialed then chalk it up to just bad seeds.

But I am with the other poster in feeling safe to say its just a big calyx.

 

[skunk_valley]

Thanks for the replies all. In the meantime I chopped that he she down and replaced her with a snowcap from the veg cab. She'll be a few weeks behind but its better than a empty spot.

SV

 

[Al Botross]

to bad....maybe i didn't say it proper but i saw no evidence that there was any hermi traits, one thing you'll learn is patiences is a treasured skill. She could have been the one treasure or keeper and if it was a male ball sack you still had a week before ti opened and there would have been no doubt they were male, ......but it is what it is.......

 

[Mikenite69]

That does suck and also just a FYI if you are getting hermies you better go over your grow setup because not for nothing those plants at 3 weeks had pretty small buds. So I am gonna guess to say you have some issues going on there like a light leak of some sort.

Get your grow dialed in before this is a reoccurring event. I grew trainwreck and it never hermied on me and it seems by your own admission you keep getting hermie plants something to think about. Also please don't tell me that you go into your grow room and take pictures with the flash on and lights off? because I hate to see people do that then they blame breeders for hermie prone plants. Well bud good luck with your grows hope you figure out what is causing these hermies. Not trying to put you down or upset you just giving you my personal opinion and maybe some helpful advice. Peace mike

 

[skunk_valley]

That TW cut threw nanners for everybody that grew her and always between weeks 11-12 . Knew it when I acquired it but I completely agree with the comments on possible light leaks and found a few pin holes in the tent, already patched them up. I have been considering getting a new tent but perhaps its time to build a room.

Too much to think about at the moment.

SV

 

[Mikenite69]

Hey buddy ya I know some trainwrecks are known to hermie. It just sucks we pay all this money for tents for what? Pin holes and light leaks I totally feel ya bro when I first set my tent up I got a late flower hermie witch didn't pollinate anything. You know what caused it my stupid orange light from my power strip timer. That's what I wound up norrowing it down to. Since then there is no black tape over the light and all my pin holes in my tent are sealed. Also bro watch your ducting unless you are using light proof ducting because that could be another problem area. If you look at the ducting really good u will see how there is like little pinhole looking things easy to see with light going through the ducting.

What I did with my ducting any light source that could shine in through my intake ducting I took duct tape and taped around all the ducting so no light will get through. Before I flower my next set of plants in my tent I am gonna buy the light proof ducting for one less thing to worry about. Well bro I seriously wish you luck with your grow and hope it goes trouble free from here on out. Sucks to waste all the time,nutes, and electric to find hermie plants. Peace Mike

 

[festerous]

Looks to me she got knocked up at a tender age. Male flowers are most likely present just not visable in the pictures. Look for yellow...

 

[Timboy5]

good call on the chop that looked like a ball to me

 

[Mikenite69]

Ya after looking at it from my computer instead of my phone it does look like a single ball. I would of pulled that ball off and let it rock out for a little long to see if anymore came back. Skunk valley buddy keep those pictures and if you got those seeds from greenhouse or another seedbank I would write the breeder and send them a picture atleast you will get a new pack of beans and most breeders will also throw ya some free extra gear for the screwup.

But skunk valley also when you get a chance look in the search bar and type in testers. Look for ojd thread from connasuer genetics he is a breeder that does fem. seeds he also has a thread that talks about how most fem seeds will show male parts early flower but they will go away on there own. Well when you get a chance take a look at that thread and it will explain to you what you will see on fem seeds most of the time.

If you ever need help or suggestions feel free to pm me ill be glad to try to help you with anything I can. Keep it green bro! Peace mike

 

[Hank Hemp]

I would have cut it.

 

[therevverend]

For every ball like that you find there's often three more on another branch hidden in a calyx. You were wise to destroy it.

 

[Mikenite69]

This is true but if you are only seeing a random ball there are many people on here that have had a plant go partial hermie and they pulled the couple balls off and the plants went through the rest of the grow without no more balls appearing. Now the safe bet ya toss it if you don't wanna chance it and that's what you did so good call.

Personally I would of weighed my options as to what to do depending on certain circumstances. There is also a very well know issues with fem seeds that in early flower will show male traits that dissapear once flowering picks up.

I am not a breeder or a pollen chucker that sells seeds. But when OJD talks about this trait happening with fem seeds people might want to pay attention to what he has to say. Dude pumps out tons of S1 seeds and I tend to listen to what he has to say.

I do cross some plants here and there for my own personal stash. I will be also working with another memeber on here to bring the gorilla glue#4 x gsc forum cut s1 to everyone who wants it and dont have either cut. They will be put up for the server fund this will be the first time I made seeds that weren't for my own stash I mean ofcourse I will be keeping some but the rest will go to the community for Basically whatever admins are gonna put them up for and to keep this site up and going.

 

[skunk_valley]

Thanks for all the replies, guys. I did a big time shakedown and found a few pinholes in my tent that are now patched and went ahead and put a Snowcap in there from the DNA limited collection, luckily she is a tall one and shouldn't need much to keep the canopy leveled. My tent was covered about 90%, heres her look now:





SV

 

[Mikenite69]

Nice skunk valley you will like that snowcap alot better than the church. I think DNA produces a lot better strains that greenhouse does. I would still contact greenhouse and show them your hermie pictures so they can send you new beans and most likely if they are a good breeder they will more than compensate you for your hassle. You setup looks nice and clean are u using preventive measure for powdery mildew because you are going scrog? I would just to be safe. Peace mike

 

[skunk_valley]

I would still contact greenhouse and show them your hermie pictures so they can send you new beans and most likely if they are a good breeder they will more than compensate you for your hassle. You setup looks nice and clean are u using preventive measure for powdery mildew because you are going scrog? I would just to be safe. Peace mike

I wrote GHS this morning. We'll see what happens. I am not expecting much, hell I could even select US as an option on their submission form because it wasn't listed so I selected the UK (cheers, mate)

In regards to PM...M@%&@er F@$&ing PM! lol, I have a big ass 6" fan for exhaust, pulling the air through my hood. 2 6 " fans for circulation inside the cab. One up top, one on the bottom.

PM is a big issue in these parts, all my roses have it and I have given up on them but inside, the only issues I have had is with clones brought in from outside sources. I used to swap clones, buy them, trade them. Clones largely fueled my first few years but, with clones came problems and I got fed up one day, maybe 2 years ago and go strictly from seed now because I could never fully eradicate it once it showed its ugly head. I could write a few pages on my trials and tribs with PM.

SV