140 gallon RDWC

[Bassy59]

I believe you learned that from "Ultra Current", which is actually me. Unless there's really an Undercurrent here.

That would be correct sir. I was thinking I had the name wrong, but wasn't looking back at my pm's where you explained it.

I never did get those seals to work well for me. Been using 1.5" pvc and uniseals since then. Two tents, 5x5 & 4x4, 4 plant & 3 plant grows. Love rdwc.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

I see what you mean about flippin a week too early. Could have topped them a bunch of times and vegged them for 2 more weeks, to fill out that netting.

I love the setup and especially the angled netting. Great idea. Try doing it in a complete circle, or a big oval like a colosseum. That would be sick with that angled netting.
The rez' are big enough to hold a 1lb plant easily. Go for it dude.
Make a new schedule to veg clones for 6 weeks as you top and train and weave. Then flip them big ass, bushy girls. Fill each hole in those nets with a top, then flip em'.
Your pheno of Jack Flash looks fantastic. Looking forward to some sick updates!

 

[Bennyweed1]

I see what you mean about flippin a week too early. Could have topped them a bunch of times and vegged them for 2 more weeks, to fill out that netting.

I love the setup and especially the angled netting. Great idea. Try doing it in a complete circle, or a big oval like a colosseum. That would be sick with that angled netting.
The rez' are big enough to hold a 1lb plant easily. Go for it dude.
Make a new schedule to veg clones for 6 weeks as you top and train and weave. Then flip them big ass, bushy girls. Fill each hole in those nets with a top, then flip em'.
Your pheno of Jack Flash looks fantastic. Looking forward to some sick updates!

Right on man! I plan on having a 8 wk veg once I get things under full swing. I been growing a perpetual cycle for so long so I had to some what stay in sink with that to pay the bills if you get me.

Rest assured, I will have eight plants wrapped around the bulbs in a rectangle rather then circle soakin' up the juice. Thanks for giving me that giggity giggity feeling.

 

[Bennyweed1]

And for the record, I practically owe my life to these forums, these reps do not do my gratitude justice.

 

[Snype]

That would be correct sir. I was thinking I had the name wrong, but wasn't looking back at my pm's where you explained it.

I never did get those seals to work well for me. Been using 1.5" pvc and uniseals since then. Two tents, 5x5 & 4x4, 4 plant & 3 plant grows. Love rdwc.

Weird! I've used 100's of my washers and had no problems at all. Not sure what you did but glad you still are able to run RDWC!

 

[Bennyweed1]

And synpe your like some damn modern day wizard with the amount of magic you be workin' on these forums. I feel safe saying these hydro girls would be dead if you weren't around. For real, thank you doesn't do enough.

 

[Snype]

And synpe your like some damn modern day wizard with the amount of magic you be workin' on these forums. I feel safe saying these hydro girls would be dead if you weren't around. For real, thank you doesn't do enough.

It's all good! Just passing the knowledge along. With 20 years of growing I've leaned a lot but there's still many more things to learn and perfect.

 

[Bassy59]

Weird! I've used 100's of my washers and had no problems at all. Not sure what you did but glad you still are able to run RDWC!

Probably tried spinning them too tight. Not sure. I need more to re-try, which I'd love to do so I can make adjustments rather than being stuck with one configuration. Pulling pvc in/out of uni seals is too hard of work for this old guy alone.

 

[Bassy59]

And synpe your like some damn modern day wizard with the amount of magic you be workin' on these forums. I feel safe saying these hydro girls would be dead if you weren't around. For real, thank you doesn't do enough.

He sure gave me some great guidance as a newbie. I still to this day quote him on feeding schedules and take it to heart on my personal grows.

 

[Snype]

Probably tried spinning them too tight. Not sure. I need more to re-try, which I'd love to do so I can make adjustments rather than being stuck with one configuration. Pulling pvc in/out of uni seals is too hard of work for this old guy alone.

Well you will be happy to know that I got new washers manufactured that are a different hardness than the last ones were. I can see who you may have had a leak with the old ones. The new ones are very hard to leak, even when over tightened. I'll make sure to get some your way.

 

[Bennyweed1]

I just smoked some good organic kush and it hit me. I wish this community was an actual real place...not that it isnt real but I mean like somewhere you could go.

How cool would that be? To put faces to all the people on here? To be surrounded by like minded people. I think it would be heaven! We would probably cure cancer in the first 5 minutes and unanimously agree that we need no form of government aside from simple natural law.

A place where democrats and republicans are the disease. Ahh it sounds like a paradise.

puff...puff....puff...... I feel like a child dreaming again. Alright, Im gonna go fondle my girls....lol literally....not the human kind either....

 

[Bennyweed1]

The plants are looking awesome...Although I wish I had another week in veg but I will make up for that with the next upcoming 5 plants.

Since the 11/15/13 they have consumed 13ppm @.500 conversion. I dont know what is considered normal because these three have 53 gallons of solution to them selves.

Here is one sexy kush strains coming down Friday or perhaps sooner.

Jack Flash at 6

 

[Bennyweed1]

Here is the next batch of 5. They are suppose to go into bloom on the 24th but not unless they are no smaller then 16" tall.

I had these at 1.0ec/525 ppm, I notice the pH dropped .2 and the EC raised about 8ppm.

Does that tell me the girls are drinking water and leaving the nutrients behind? Well that is what I assumed so I dropped the solution down to 0.8ec/400ppm by adding ro water

 

[Snype]

Here is the next batch of 5. They are suppose to go into bloom on the 24th but not unless they are no smaller then 16" tall.

I had these at 1.0ec/525 ppm, I notice the pH dropped .2 and the EC raised about 8ppm.

Does that tell me the girls are drinking water and leaving the nutrients behind? Well that is what I assumed so I dropped the solution down to 0.8ec/400ppm by adding ro water

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I'd rather check the EC after you top off so you can get a more accurate measure. Just remember that these readings are still not going to be all the way accurate because of the displacement of new roots forming which makes you think you have your original gallons from the start of the run but the roots take up space as the plants grow and make it so less solution is in the system as in the beginning. I'm not sure if a lot of growers take stuff like this into account. I put a mark in my systems with a sharpie and take all my readings when I top off to the line that I placed in Day 1.

 

[TheCleanGame]

Seriously overfed in flower there Benny... gotta dial back that ec quite a bit so those girls perk up and get happy.

Other than that it looks smashing!

Keep it Clean!

 

[Bennyweed1]

Seriously overfed in flower there Benny... gotta dial back that ec quite a bit so those girls perk up and get happy.

Other than that it looks smashing!

Keep it Clean!

Yeah I know I really screwed the pooch with these first girls. Everything has a learning curve.

lol Ill be honest, I really had no idea what I was doing...just kinda winged it and took all the information I got here.

I have it figured it out.....for the most part (knock on wood)

 

[Bennyweed1]

Okay ladies and gents, take a look at these photos. I dont know what it all means. I need the wisdom of the hydro gods.

Ever since ever, I thought my girls in veg have been growing...well...kinda slow but then I think I am being to critical and expecting to much. None the less they are growing and look great.

buttt take a look at these roots. They seem to basically stop spidering (thats what I call the healthy web look of multiplying roots) at water level. I have the water/solution about 1" under the net pots

Take a look at these photos to get a better idea what I am talking about

You can see that the 1" of roots not submerged in solution has that spider/branching thing going on.

Is this normal?



And here is something I also been meaning to ask about too....but I have forgot. My three girls in bloom, the solution gets this foamy/bubbley/soap sud, looking thing going on right at the edge of the water surface.

The roots look awesome and white. I just dont know if this is normal for a RDWC/UC system. My pump is overkill for these three sites which probably does create a lot of turbulence in the water.

This photo is the plant bucket which all other plant buckets draw into before going to the control bucket, out the pump and back into the two leading buckets.

I have had this since I started running this system. I want to believe it is just the strong amount of under current for only three buckets, but would like more opinions.

And a side note, I am going on a trip 11/21/13 until 11/27/13 and I am nervous as hell.

TO be honest I have not made a single adjustment in over 6 days so I think I will be okay but still.........it will be hard sleeping at night to say the least.

 

[Bassy59]

I don't like the foam. The only time I had it was when I didnt run a chiller and got root rot. I'd check the water temps carfeully and often if not using s chiller. I keep mine @ 68f with a chiller. That being said I have heard that with really good air 70-71-72 can be ok, but I can't confirm that from experience.

As far as the roots question, I once spoke to the owner and maker of nutes for this thing of ours. He has a masters degree in this stuff, so I tend to listen. He told me to look for a product (he didnt make) that has a few forms of Glomus in it.

I went to the largest hydro store in my area and starting reading the backs of bottles. I found FoxFarms Bush Doctor Microbe Brew. I use it at 5ml per gal from veg through 1st week of 12/12 just like AN Voodoo Juice, which is used for the same purpose.

I now end up with roots that by harvest time are nearly the entire size of the 5 gal tub they are in. And lots of ribbing like you want. All at a fraction of the cost of AN.

 

[Bennyweed1]

I don't know what the foam is but when I turn off my air pump its dissipates and clears up.

I'll have to look into that product you mentioned. As far as the temps go, I'm at 65-67 degrees due to winter and it's only going to get colder.

 

[TheCleanGame]

The pole-ladder root structure shows up when you have too high of a pH... I see that it's only showing up 'above' the nutrient line.

Seems to indicate that the 'mist' being created by the popped bubbles is at too high of a pH because of extra air. How much pump wattage are you running and what's the wattage of your lighting again?

Putting your pump on a timer can help alleviate the pH issue from an overpowered pump.

Keep it Clean!