Post heart transplant, dr. said no more vape.

[CliftonSantiago]

ok, a little background, i used to smoke for the last two years, but i finally got my new heart 30 days ago. my team of doctors said no more "smoking" and when i try to explain "vaporizing" to them they just reply "no smoking". i understand that i am more susceptible to all forms of cancer (because of the anti rejection meds) but if aids patients vape, why can't i? my real question for everyone is: would vapeing C02 purged errrl be safer than vapeing flowers? P.S even though they said no more cannabis products ( i asked if i could take 'gold caps') they said "NO" but they wrote me a script for marinol.

 

[Payaso]

Listen to your doctor. Smoking has other bad effects... vaping also. Makes one cough, bad for the heart. Makes your heart rate go up, bad for heart.

Don't be stupid, they just invested how many hundreds of thousands on your new heart and you're more concerned about getting vaped?

Use edibles if anything... but make sure your liver is functioning normally before loading it up with ingested cannabis products, it could shut you right down. Be careful.

 

[CliftonSantiago]

yeah i know, but i used to medicate to help me sleep, which worked wonderfully. but now with all the side effects of other medications i get no sleep. well now i do because they have no problem prescribing me pills to help me sleep, which also are bad on my liver, and cause me to have tremors, but it's great they just prescribe me another pill to counter act those side effects. i'm up to four "controlled substances", i just thought C02 would be the lesser of two evils C02 vs. hypnotic/sleeping/anxiety pills.

 

[festerous]

Try Diaphragmatic breathing and say good bye to coughing forever, just resist the urge to suck down joints in one hit!

 

[willyweed]

i wonder how many people died because they never got a second chance like you did !
george best drank himself to death twice !
people given a second chance should be made to sign a contract to say : if they abuse the organ given to them ,they should give it back ! or give it to somebody that cares about themselves enough not to look a gift horse in the mouth !

 

[StayFoolish22]

Sorry to hear brotha. I suffer from insomnia and anxiety myself.

It is such shit to never be able to sleep, tossing and turning, shaking in bed at night.

I have found meditation, controlling my sleep patterns with good food and good thought.

Edibles maybe? Some people can't eat edibles if they are made from trim or flowers, but I have found patients that love edibles if they were made with hash or oil.

I hate to hear of other people suffering, sucks.

If you can't do edibles, maybe make your own THC capsules. Decarb the oil with heat and pour into gel caps. Hope all works out for ya.

 

[Slip Kid]

I think they just don't want you to cough. My brother in law just has a few major heart surgeries and he's waiting for a transplant at some point but he has this coughing disorder, well the disorder , sarcoids, causes him to cough all the time and it's too hard on the operation site. He doesn't smoke but he sure does take a load of pills. With an operation like that I'd hate to give any bad advice! Good luck.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Doctors are stupid! So arent people! Its your body. You know what it can take and what it cant.
Its up to you weather or not you listen to them or not.
Asking people on a social site is not any better than listening to your doctor.
I would just do what you feel in your heart ,and then you can only blame yourself if something negative happens.
A 70+ y.o family member had open heart surgery and they told her not to smoke cigs, She smokes a pack and 1/2 a day and is fine......for now.

 

[oscarthegrouch]

It's really your decision but I do know that cannabis can cause your heart rate and blood pressure to slightly rise. In with regular long term use it tends to stabilize your blood pressure to some degree though. They are prob worried about the effects it could have on a newly transplanted heart. If it where me I would give it 6 months or so before I considered trying anything new.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

Doctors are stupid! ...
I would just do what you feel in your heart

His heart is in a jar on a shelf somewhere.



Clifton, you're on anti rejection drugs that suppress your immune system, and you want to suck on something that could fill your lungs with fungal spores. Not a good idea.

 

[CliftonSantiago]

i know i am free to do what i want, and i am listening to my doctors, even though they gave me the ok to drink again, i am choosing not to. i have dramatically improved my diet (kale & quinoa are my go to foods) but just because a dr. prescribed me a medication, it doesn't mean it's gonna fix everything, or be good for me. im 35 with the heart of a 18 year old.....literally. unlike dick cheney i am super grateful where my heart came from and i am not just living for me, but also my donor, so i am taking every precaution and excercising like a beast. (thanks to the steroids, PERSCRIBED). i never intended to "smoke" again, but just because a dr. prescribed me 4 different "controlled substances" doesn't mean that they are healthy for me. i get checked every week and since I started the "controlled substances" my liver function has gotten worse. i feel fine, except for the tremors. the doctors attitude is "well you wanna sleep right? so keep taking the pills and we'll keep an eye on your liver function."

 

[CliftonSantiago]

and in a more cruel twist i had just harvested my first grow, 5 days prior to my pager going off. i never got to try my own stuff, (purple bubble gum, woody, and Face off OG) i was thinking of buying a magical butter machine and making a tincture (after i have it tested through a lab) but not until i get the ok from my doctors. i have tried some goldmist, drops of heaven, and cheeba chews (quad & deca's) but nothing compares to a dab. man i miss getting high. i wish i would have known the last dab i took was my last, i would have savored it a bit more.

 

[oscarthegrouch]

sleeping pills shouldn't effect your liver greatly. I wouldn't worry about that. I have had terrible liver function tests for several years and I have no problems taking them. Alcohol and Tylenol are what you want to avoid. Also slight to moderate increases in liver enzymes happen for a huge variety of reasons and are not always a sign of something dangerous. If it is a medication effecting your liver it can slowly heal once the medication is stopped. If your liver test was *bad* the dr would not have given you the ok to drink.

 

[willyweed]

and in a more cruel twist i had just harvested my first grow, 5 days prior to my pager going off. i never got to try my own stuff, (purple bubble gum, woody, and Face off OG) i was thinking of buying a magical butter machine and making a tincture (after i have it tested through a lab) but not until i get the ok from my doctors. i have tried some goldmist, drops of heaven, and cheeba chews (quad & deca's) but nothing compares to a dab. man i miss getting high. i wish i would have known the last dab i took was my last, i would have savored it a bit more.

you could still grow ,just not smoke it! raise some money for other people in your situation ,just a thought !

 

[CliftonSantiago]

i actually thought about growing for the sole purpose of donataion, i have nothing but time on my hands, but i don't trust any dispensary to give it away as part of a "compassion" program, and i can't just hand it out, sooooo. and the alcohol thing is mixed, both my surgeon and head doctor said beer or one drink a day is fine, but the doctor in charge of my meds said alcohol is a "cardio toxin" and to hold off for another 11 months, honestly i don't see myself drinking ever again. i ruined my old heart with crystal meth, not booze. and i was basing the increased liver function on the drugs for sleeping because they increased after i started taking those meds, and because the doctor said that those particular drugs are hard on the liver, and i'm on low doses, but they keep increasing them because i am building a tolerance. there in lyes the problem. i went 2 weeks getting on average 2 hours a night, and I went to some DARK places, i never want to go there again. here's what gets me, when i asked my med. doctor if it was ok if i celebrated my 30 days with a half pint (8oz) of beer she said no, and she said that she doesn't drink, but if i asked the doctors above her (who are drinkers she informed me) they would tell me it's ok. i told her i would respect her decision and not drink. I mean he did prescribe me marinol, which doesn't do a thing for me. WTF am i doing? i need to go on a run.

 

[CliftonSantiago]

as in a jog, i'm shaking too much.

 

[willyweed]

well i hope you find your inner strength from that new heart, in time to change your life for the better . all the best. ww

 

[justpassnthru]

When was the surgery/transplant?
jpt

 

[AlterEgo860]

id say just take it slow.. and vape only.. its not worth losing your LIFE over cigs or smoking weed. honestly it sickens me wen I SEE people hurting>> and others saying no don't try to elleviate that pain>> JUST DEAL WITH IT .. its like FUCK U. how am I supposed to believe people who don't want a cure for cancer.. just money for dealing with it.. don't want to cure AIDS.. or Anything for that matter.. because big pharma wants control of ur mind .. and cash..

its all about money man.. vape that shit.. stay safe.. and be careful

 

[Weird]

eat it dude eat it