using Magnets on your plants

[Stonefree69]

Make sure to get ~ 1/2" diameter hole

These can also be used around water pipes under kitchen sink...

Measure the pipe coming out of the wall in the shower and place 2 there as well

Placing them around a 5 g bucket may be too far apart, which is why I placed them around the 1/2" water tubing this time

Let me know if you need to see a pic

Yeah I'm not sure if the roots need to be in the magnetic field itself (like the milk kefir video above magnets were right on the quart jars) but I'm getting some POWERFUL magnets. I'm going to group some 20 lb Neodymium magnets and have about 80-120 lbs pull force per side of bucket. There are places on the web I can get them for about $2 each.

Another note: to achieve the most pull force, opposing magnets should be parallel to each other, so a 5 gallon bucket will have a slight curve if you're grouping magnets side by side.

I was in the water treatment biz for a decade and no magnets won't soften your water or help with scaling at least in that regard. As for vortex water treatment I think it's also supposed to help with DO levels at least - http://www.vortexwatertech.com/c_5.asp I just use a venturi air pump (Penguin powerhead) and it makes millions of tiny microscopic bubbles that stay in solution longer too.

Just for fun:

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[PetFlora]

I sold water systems for Aquathin

10+ years ago, I paid ~$250 for a device (circuit board) that has wires that coil tightly around the water pipe on each side of the device. Didn't do squat

I was not able to see whatever pic you posted, but went to the link. Although they did not note temp, as I suspected, the DO needs to be fresh, or kept fresh

I use a 20" pvc tube, filled with ornamental/river rock at my kitchen sink. I pass my Kinetico RO water through it for my coffee, pasta, fresh nutes... I even tested it with tap + 2 drops of pure soap, it def kept the bubbles much longer

FYI pH in repel was a BIT more stable MAYBE. Need to monitor over a few days

 

[PetFlora]

Cool short video shows magnets in repulsion can create free energy.

I wonder what would happen if placed around a young clone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYonIwPJrVo

 

[trichrider]

what energy is being produced?

i see a levitated disc being spun, how are you seeing free energy?

 

[PetFlora]

What it shows is potential energy

Where's there's motion, there's heat, no?

Granted, in this example not much heat will be generated

Maybe if all the floating (SPINNING) magnets did was create sufficient air flow to move a super light weight fan...

 

[trichrider]

you misunderstand the physics. it takes energy to spin that disc, it won't produce anything.

now if the bottom made the top spin without outside impetus there would be energy produced. that would be zero point or free energy...there will be absolutely no heat generated because it is a magnetic bushing/bearing, no friction whatsoever created.

but not so if you must spin the disc for it to do anything.

btw, i agree there is potential energy in magnets.

 

[PetFlora]

So it's only the start up energy required to initiate the spin that troubles you?

Well, if whatever the minimum energy required was offset by constant energy produced afterwards, would that not be essentially free energy?

I am not a physicist, but I believe this is best understood with Quantum physics, which seems like an advanced field

 

[PetFlora]

Still unclear whether magnets in repel v attract do anything different, or that eliminating the HH Ring from the LED rez helped with pH, but plants are all doing quite well- best in my experience. some of that is due to having both lights and watering systems much better dialed in.

I will have to keep a closer watch on nute consumption, which has gone way up, and we know what that means

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[trichrider]

So it's only the start up energy required to initiate the spin that troubles you?

Well, if whatever the minimum energy required was offset by constant energy produced afterwards, would that not be essentially free energy?

I am not a physicist, but I believe this is best understood with Quantum physics, which seems like an advanced field

no. it will eventually stop, even without friction.
it would require constant energy to keep spinning.
it's the fact that return on energy gained will be less than what it takes to spin to begin with.

i've looked long and hard at mag motor concepts and have yet to witness free energy. some very likely candidates tho'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG0ugQkfYdw

if you find any way to create more energy than consume with magnets, let's hear your idea.

 

[Stonefree69]

 

[PetFlora]

When I started the magnet experiment I was unclear as to whether the magnets should be in attraction or repulsion, so I ran one rez each way. Eventually, I moved the females to my HOT5 tent where the magnets were in attract, but I put a ~ 1" neoprene plug in between, in hopes of creating an energy field in between.

Today, I came across a follow up youtube, and saw the ticket is repulsion, BUT, using metal shims between that make the opposing magnets attract to the metal shim in spite of wanting to repel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdbBQ...reply_received

I have some washers (too thin but...) and have reset the magnets. However, I am now quite far into flowering so no way to know what might have been

Anyway, plants are budding quite well and hopefully will bud even better now

 

[PetFlora]

I could not find an appropriate metal shim, so I improvised using large nuts ($0.67/)

Installed this morning on my feeder line, and one to the line under my sink going to my RO, which is ~ 20-30ppm

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[trichrider]

are those ring magnets radial?

 

[PetFlora]

I have no idea. I have had them for many years, and don't know how I acquired them

Why do you ask?

 

[DJXX]

thats interesting..DJ

 

[Max Headroom]

those magnets seem to be from a microwave oven.
got 3 of those as well, will try and put them around a stem on my next grow

 

[PetFlora]

MaxH, I tried surrounding the main stem last grow. Nothing special

Well, something's going right.

Last grow it took forever for calyxes to develop, and they are already here

Also, buds seem ~ 30% fatter than 2 days ago

Pics tomorrow

 

[Sativa Dragon]

Where is everybody?

Here are pics from yesterday, only 7 days after the others I posted

I have been experiencing rising pH since using the magnets around the feed tubes.

Perhaps they are too strong, perhaps I need to put them in repel. Hmmm, since I have 2 set ups I will try this on one of them

Each morning I adjust rez to ~ 5.5, by next morning it's ~ 6.0

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Your Magnets are trapping the iron and minerals at the feeder tubes, the build up of said minerals and iron will cause a buffer in your PH, Move the Magnets to your main rez, or on a another water inlet to your system before you add nutes and you should see a difference in your PH.

Peace

 

[Sativa Dragon]

Trichrider is correct, energy input equals energy output, law of conservation of energy would be a good subject for everyone interested in this thread.

In the experiments above gravity, wind resistance or resistance from atmosphere, light, heat, balance all play a roll in consuming energy. it will be impossible to prove an efficient enough close system experiment to show a greater energy from it than was put in to it.

Peace

 

[PetFlora]

Thanks, but it was either high humidity and/or deteriorated nutes.

My new pound of V + B is 100% stable (so far), but humidity has fallen by half too. Daily swing ~ 0.2 with ~ 4 liters consumed

Your Magnets are trapping the iron and minerals at the feeder tubes, the build up of said minerals and iron will cause a buffer in your PH, Move the Magnets to your main rez, or on a another water inlet to your system before you add nutes and you should see a difference in your PH.

Peace